17x9s have arrived
04-06-2011, 12:03 PM
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Your probably right and I might not ever run 275s, I just want to know, I could if I wanted to. Besides maybe 275 is not the best size for a 9 in wide wheel. That brings up a good question. Just because a 9 in wide wheel can fit a 275 tire, wont that make it slightly less responsive? According to tire rack 9in wide wheels can fit 245-275. The cobalt Time attack ran 245s with 9in wide wheels. Do they know something we don’t?
For autox? Different story. It happens at low speed, so big fat sticky tires win.
04-06-2011, 04:10 PM
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Tell me if you think I'm on dope for this one. 18x9 with a 255/35 and a 50mm offset. I would run a 20mm studded spacer on the front and be able to still rotate tires after the event. It should fit under the rear with no issues. I know some guy's have issues with spacers but I've run them on several cars over the years with no issues. What are your thoughts?
Rally, I would think the Ultraleggeras would depend on your tire choice. Actually, isn't Maven running a 245/40-18 on them with Pedders??
04-07-2011, 12:21 AM
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I think the biggest issue with spacers are guy's that put them on and don't put in longer studs. I was using a wheel calculator and with a 30 mm offset in the front with a 9 the wheel should stick out 1.2 inches over stock. jboogie can you actually see the top of the front tire when viewed from straight above the fender? I'm now on Pedders with -2 degrees and am having a hard time seeing a 9 fit even though you did it. I was going to order Forgestar F14's in a 18x9.
04-07-2011, 04:58 AM
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I've never really messed with spacers before other than just little 5mm stuff. Everyone loves to scream "not safe" but I have never personally heard of any incidents. Your idea makes total sense to me. Although if your thinking of going with the team dynamics wheels a +45 is the highest offset that I know of you'll have to give them a call or email ( paul@teamilluminata.com is the guy I talked with, knew his stuff) Worst case on the +45 in the rear you may need to add another .5* camber and/or roll the fender. But, SHOULD clear no problem.
Rally, I would think the Ultraleggeras would depend on your tire choice. Actually, isn't Maven running a 245/40-18 on them with Pedders??
Rally, I would think the Ultraleggeras would depend on your tire choice. Actually, isn't Maven running a 245/40-18 on them with Pedders??
But last time I said something to you about them rubbing you tried to act like I was some one who didn't know.
/shrugs
04-08-2011, 10:48 AM
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Steddy:
Yeah...that wheel fitment is fail.
Even with stretched fenders you won't clear your struts...OH and really...big 245 tires(Direzzas) lose a lot of turn in feel(off center initial bite) from tread flex.
That is actually what you said and you were wrong on all accounts.
The car was .3 seconds off FTD in a 76 car field last weekend, guess I'm doing something right.
04-08-2011, 11:16 AM
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04-08-2011, 06:04 PM
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04-10-2011, 08:47 PM
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Quite messing around and run 18x10's with 255/30/18 tires. Hoosier is wide as 275, and sits same as our stock tires. Run a wider wheel and stop sidewall flex.
Rears are on my car now, fronts will be on this coming week.
I can tell you for a fact, that 225's are not enough, 255's will be enough for Track Days and Autox. Also with lower profile the tire will warm up quicker.
Rears are on my car now, fronts will be on this coming week.
I can tell you for a fact, that 225's are not enough, 255's will be enough for Track Days and Autox. Also with lower profile the tire will warm up quicker.
04-12-2011, 04:09 PM
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A few pics
Summary:
The +30 in the front is perfect, hard drives through very rough windy roads and no rub up front at all still on mild camber (1.3-1.6* right now 2* coming next week)
The rear is a little different. Very hard cornering it has not rubbed yet but I will know more after the first track day. BUT on big dips a higher speeds the fender lip does contact the tire. That mark on the tire helped me make a measurement and it looks like it would take another 19mm to tuck the tread width behind the fender. If this becomes an issue I'll order some new wheels in a +45 and sell the other 2. I could bring the top of the tire in another 8-10mm with another .5* of camber with some shims but I don't want to do that for clearance issues just to mess up the balance of the car.
The plan is to be fully STX prepped in 2 years, it's gonna be a fun ride
Summary:
The +30 in the front is perfect, hard drives through very rough windy roads and no rub up front at all still on mild camber (1.3-1.6* right now 2* coming next week)
The rear is a little different. Very hard cornering it has not rubbed yet but I will know more after the first track day. BUT on big dips a higher speeds the fender lip does contact the tire. That mark on the tire helped me make a measurement and it looks like it would take another 19mm to tuck the tread width behind the fender. If this becomes an issue I'll order some new wheels in a +45 and sell the other 2. I could bring the top of the tire in another 8-10mm with another .5* of camber with some shims but I don't want to do that for clearance issues just to mess up the balance of the car.
The plan is to be fully STX prepped in 2 years, it's gonna be a fun ride
04-13-2011, 09:00 PM
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rolling the fenders is just turning up the inside lip, you mean pulling the fenders. That isn't allowed in my class.
OK, opened up the bottom strut mount some more, I'm up to 1.7* camber now and that leaves only 4mm between the tire and strut! I had 1.7 degrees last year with unmodified strut holes, thinking maybe I moved them out on the strut tower more after installing the springs?
OK, opened up the bottom strut mount some more, I'm up to 1.7* camber now and that leaves only 4mm between the tire and strut! I had 1.7 degrees last year with unmodified strut holes, thinking maybe I moved them out on the strut tower more after installing the springs?
04-13-2011, 11:27 PM
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rolling the fenders is just turning up the inside lip, you mean pulling the fenders. That isn't allowed in my class.
OK, opened up the bottom strut mount some more, I'm up to 1.7* camber now and that leaves only 4mm between the tire and strut! I had 1.7 degrees last year with unmodified strut holes, thinking maybe I moved them out on the strut tower more after installing the springs?
OK, opened up the bottom strut mount some more, I'm up to 1.7* camber now and that leaves only 4mm between the tire and strut! I had 1.7 degrees last year with unmodified strut holes, thinking maybe I moved them out on the strut tower more after installing the springs?
04-15-2011, 02:21 AM
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My E-Stock MR2 has 14x6 Kodiaks on the front with a 225/50/14 710 and only 2 mm to the strut. the only contact I have had is a very slight rub, just enough to polish the paint on the strut and a shiny stripe on the back side of the tire. From what others have said I understand the wheel itself may flex under load as there is really no load on the top end of the tire. I've run the car hard for two years with this setup. I think your OK, I hope your OK because my wheels are on the way and the spacing should be similar to yours. I chickened out and went with 18x8.5's instead of 9's but with the same backspace. I just wanted to make sure they tucked.
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04-16-2011, 12:20 AM
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When are they supposed to be here or when do I think they will arrive? They say 3-4wks and I think more like 6-7 wks. I need them before the Canadian Nationals in September so I should be good
04-22-2011, 08:56 AM
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latest autox results on the new setup. lots of learning a dialing in to do yet but I'm getting the hang of it.
Pax Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--PAX
Final Raw Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--RAW
Pax Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--PAX
Final Raw Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--RAW
04-22-2011, 10:31 AM
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latest autox results on the new setup. lots of learning a dialing in to do yet but I'm getting the hang of it.
Pax Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--PAX
Final Raw Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--RAW
Pax Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--PAX
Final Raw Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--RAW
EDIT: NVM I thought the rule was 8" but thats for AWD cars :P
We have a street tire index up here now for the R, F, and A classes.. 10 street tire cars were in the top 20 on pax for non national level cars lol. im only mad casue i got knocked out of the top 20 by them :P
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04-22-2011, 11:27 AM
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latest autox results on the new setup. lots of learning a dialing in to do yet but I'm getting the hang of it.
Pax Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--PAX
Final Raw Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--RAW
Pax Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--PAX
Final Raw Time Results, #1 - HSCC Nite Series #1 - Wed 04-20-2011 <--RAW
04-27-2011, 04:04 PM
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Action shots anyone?? Rode out to Deals Gap yesterday, rained all the way there so the car was a mess! My buddy Chad was trying to hold on for dear life and take video. But, here are some cools shots, I'm gonna wait til KillBoy get theirs up to buy any, here they are on us129photos.com
PhotoReflect - Xtreme Sports Photography - The Dragon April 26th, 2011 - Tuesday check out pages 26, 32, & 34
PhotoReflect - Xtreme Sports Photography - The Dragon April 26th, 2011 - Tuesday check out pages 26, 32, & 34
04-27-2011, 04:16 PM
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nice! Looks like the rear has some + camber with those wide wheels lol. Looks damn hot tho.
wondering how competitive the SS could be in STX at nationals.. STX always seems like a toss up since i have been autocrossing modding the cobalt would be fun.
wondering how competitive the SS could be in STX at nationals.. STX always seems like a toss up since i have been autocrossing modding the cobalt would be fun.
04-27-2011, 09:55 PM
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I've wondered that myself about nationals. Pretty sure I was about a second off the guy that won STX in dixie (I think but no results posted yet) in his fully prepped RX8. He came in 27th of 43 at nationals in 2010 and a second back would have put me right behind him in 28th. I've run 2 events since I ran against him and have gotten MUCH faster as I adapt to the new setup. Ya I'm stretching it pretty thin but its the only gauge I have right now. lol Not bad for a very under prepped car.