cobaltssdude420

Me being too excited about my new tune lol. Words came out wrong and yeah it fucked with people

tomj77

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Well then calm ur ass down lol. If ur this excited with a stock turbo tune, ud **** urself on a big turbo tune

63 Nova SS

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Or e tune

cobaltssdude420

lol I know I'm getting used to it.

Bluelightning

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Nah man just load in dat 5000hp tune. Stock turbo. Tuner says so

tomj77

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do u have a girdled block?

cobaltssdude420

Haha my tuner knows the stock limits he's a good guy

Bluelightning

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No I have a bone stock Gen 3 LDK short block. The Gen 3 block fixed the failures of the Gen 1 and 2 blocks with the support on the upper sleeves. No one has broken it yet. Girdled is cool if you got money to flush down the toilet and like to say you have one.

Ya I wouldn't push more boost than you are on a K04. Otherwise you're just causing unessisary heat which wrecks motors. But on the other hand to get the kind of numbers you hope you're at takes about 30psi on pump gas

KMO43

My theory too. I think ZZP puts a 500hp rating on the gen3 block just to sell their girdled block for $1000 more

Bluelightning

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Well they put a 500whp rating on the whole stock short block assembly. Not just the block. Take a Gen 3 block and add aftermarket pistons and rods. The sky is the limit. That block isn't busting up top like the Gen 1 and 2's can under high boost.

tomj77

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Zzp didnt have their girdled block in the begining and they made how much?

KMO43

Scythesnake came into a thread after i posted that i think the girdled block is a money grab and said the gen3 isn't good for 600hp ask him how he knows. I have a gen3 block and am gonna hit 600

Bluelightning

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ZZP made 898 on a girdled block if that's what you're thinking of.

I don't believe it. I know he trashed his motor but I don't think it was due to the block looking at the pics. It looked like a rod snapped. Which I could see ZZP's made in China Rods doing. They are still a good rod don't get me wrong. But they aren't the best.

KMO43

I never knew there were pics. I know Cmiller had a pretty big build on a gen3 block. I have Molnar rods I talked to him for a bit seemed like a really cool guy

Bluelightning

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He posted just one on his instagram. The piston was destroyed and 1/4 of the rod was attached to to it.

Ya I've purchased some stuff from Cmiller over the years. Really good guy.

tomj77

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Wait, what made in china rods are these?

Bluelightning

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Their 4340 Rods

tomj77

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4340 is one of the strongest steels u can get. I guess its in the way u forge em. What can they hold up to

no_ss

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Depending whether they were stretched to form or molded in a molding will make a huge difference.

Bluelightning

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Yep. That's why they're $450 haha.

63 Nova SS

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My sportsman rods for my 406 were under $600, for 8........
They are also clearanced and made of 4340.

Bluelightning

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Again, not saying they're bad Rods. Just saying if they flew apart under high hp being made over seas it wouldn't blow my mind.

tomj77

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everything is made in china, even china , lol

Bluelightning

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If you say so......

heeter_33

Chinese pipe doesn't go through nearly the qa/qc as pipe here, I imagine the rods are likely the same.