Turbo Tech Racing LNF Intake Manifold!!
10-31-2012, 05:36 PM
#202
They have been tuning the ttr manifold setup to allow it to run properly at the lower boost levels.
Initial dyno test was 28 psi
You will soon see a 20, 25, an 30 psi charts to compare to. So dyno numbers before and after will be at different hp/torque than the dyno in post #1 (28 psi).
Just to be fair:
Remember, This is basically a 3rd party testing this... Many States away from us, so they are not going to "lie" about anything, they have no personal gain to do so. It is not us "TTR" doing any dyno testing.
There are 3 parties, the manufacture (us TTR), the user (Richard and his car) and the Tuner (James).
Richard and James are doing this on their own will and wants to test this. No financial gains of any kind are between us. What they present is what it is. And the truth behind it is Richard came to us and paid us $500 to build a better intake manifold for him. The agreement was that it would allow more power than the stock one. If he tested it and he found out it did not make more power, he got his $500 back from us. So in the end I dont think Richard would want to pay $500 for a part that didnt work and he was able to return.
As far as logs go, that is between Richard and James to provide if they wish. I will let them speak to this.
Initial dyno test was 28 psi
You will soon see a 20, 25, an 30 psi charts to compare to. So dyno numbers before and after will be at different hp/torque than the dyno in post #1 (28 psi).
Just to be fair:
Remember, This is basically a 3rd party testing this... Many States away from us, so they are not going to "lie" about anything, they have no personal gain to do so. It is not us "TTR" doing any dyno testing.
There are 3 parties, the manufacture (us TTR), the user (Richard and his car) and the Tuner (James).
Richard and James are doing this on their own will and wants to test this. No financial gains of any kind are between us. What they present is what it is. And the truth behind it is Richard came to us and paid us $500 to build a better intake manifold for him. The agreement was that it would allow more power than the stock one. If he tested it and he found out it did not make more power, he got his $500 back from us. So in the end I dont think Richard would want to pay $500 for a part that didnt work and he was able to return.
As far as logs go, that is between Richard and James to provide if they wish. I will let them speak to this.
10-31-2012, 05:59 PM
#204
Yup, When ZZP brought up the dyno issue, Richard felt he wanted to get back on his local dyno and get everything corrected.
Richard disagrees with ZZP claiming 5 torque, as he can physically feel the difference between manifolds. He knows there is a significant gain, but wanted true data to show how much. So he hired James again to do some logging and more tuing refinement on the different boost levels; Since he was going to the dyno again, he wants to offer examples of power gains at different PSI levels.
James will also agree that there is a significant power increase, from the VE table values and such in the tune. I have to be honest I dont tune, I dont know tunes. Details will have to come from him on why he also feels this manifolds flows better and offers the gains it does.
Again, Richard wants data, and that is what he is after going back again this Saturday.
Side note, a big difference I am excited to see is on the original dyno the stock manifold did NOT have boost ramp, and the TTR manifold did (for whatever reason). This time they will both be the same. The TTR manifold should not see such a decrease, if any, on the lower RPM end now (we hope).
Richard disagrees with ZZP claiming 5 torque, as he can physically feel the difference between manifolds. He knows there is a significant gain, but wanted true data to show how much. So he hired James again to do some logging and more tuing refinement on the different boost levels; Since he was going to the dyno again, he wants to offer examples of power gains at different PSI levels.
James will also agree that there is a significant power increase, from the VE table values and such in the tune. I have to be honest I dont tune, I dont know tunes. Details will have to come from him on why he also feels this manifolds flows better and offers the gains it does.
Again, Richard wants data, and that is what he is after going back again this Saturday.
Side note, a big difference I am excited to see is on the original dyno the stock manifold did NOT have boost ramp, and the TTR manifold did (for whatever reason). This time they will both be the same. The TTR manifold should not see such a decrease, if any, on the lower RPM end now (we hope).
10-31-2012, 06:01 PM
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seeing it's being tested again during the weekend, are you gonna extend the sale price a bit longer so that people can wait to see the new results before spending the cash?
10-31-2012, 06:08 PM
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10-31-2012, 06:11 PM
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We will have 6 ready to ship Monday/Tuesday next week. Supply will be limited. We do have 2 of those sold already too, 4 left.
From what James/Richard are telling us...
Dont put to much faith in ZZP's claim of 5 torque as the outcome... They are both are stating it will have much more then this.
(Richard/car owner) can physically feel it and James (tuner) can see it in the tune/log.
Time will tell.
From what James/Richard are telling us...
Dont put to much faith in ZZP's claim of 5 torque as the outcome... They are both are stating it will have much more then this.
(Richard/car owner) can physically feel it and James (tuner) can see it in the tune/log.
Time will tell.
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10-31-2012, 07:15 PM
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I have rented TrackMasters, Inc Dyno for This Saturday morning.
No Logging will be done, seeing that the tunes will NOT be messed with in anyway.
3 Pulls Will Be Done On Each Boost Levels Below.
Stock Manifold 20psi
Stock Manifold 25psi
Stock Manifold 30psi
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TTR Manifold 20psi
TTR Manifold 25psi
TTR Manifold 30psi
Should have the new results up Saturday night.
No Logging will be done, seeing that the tunes will NOT be messed with in anyway.
3 Pulls Will Be Done On Each Boost Levels Below.
Stock Manifold 20psi
Stock Manifold 25psi
Stock Manifold 30psi
---------------------
TTR Manifold 20psi
TTR Manifold 25psi
TTR Manifold 30psi
Should have the new results up Saturday night.
10-31-2012, 09:06 PM
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