Seriously. Dude is clueless.

Get a Harley next time.

 

FYI, that yellow sedan that BlueLNF posted as a reference for you. 1. Way more rare than your car (color, sedan, LNF ), 2. 16k miles ( Practically brand new ), and 3. Faster than your car bone stock w/ more potential for mods. So how is that even remotely a downgrade?

I am in the market right now for another cobalt, and no offense, but I wouldn't pay more than 6k for ANY SS/SC regardless of condition, only way would be if it was TVS or Turboed. I mean, GLWS, honestly, but if I were you I would the the first 7500 that came to my door if I could get it. There are SS/TC balts with 75-80k on them selling for 7500-9k in the Northeast, I just haven't found the right one yet.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueLNFftw

No.

Depreciation is a real thing and modding a car is not an investment. The more you mod it, the more you close yourself off of the market. Anything custom is not going to add value and you will never get back what you put in. That is why USED parts sell for less, just like USED cars.

Thanks for the input but you misunderstood the question.

I was not asking for an explanation of the economics the new and used vehicle market operates under today. I understand it quite well.

The question is why do "you," (people who buy vehicles for the specific reason of customizing them) except that all the work you do on it will be worth nothing?


QUOTE=blueLNFftw;7476459]I know you are proud of the money you put into your car, but you are never getting it back.[/QUOTE]

I have no expectation of getting all the money I spent on my car back. If I were I would be asking 16k, FIRM. I have all the receipts for my mods and most of them were done in the last 2 years.


QUOTE=blueLNFftw;7476459]If modding a car made money, dealerships would be modding more cars to sell them.[/QUOTE]

Dealerships don't make cars. They sell them. Merely a middle man. And they make enough money off financing them to not give a **** about modding them. However, dealerships DO make mods to cars. Mostly due to the manufacturer specifically making parts for those vehicles to be modded. Case and point, this one.


QUOTE=blueLNFftw;7476459]The reality is that the market value of your car is barely over $8k in PERFECT condition all stock. No one is bashing you, just trying to give you information as to why your car is overpriced.[/QUOTE]

Well that's odd because like I already said, two separate DEALERS offered me 10k for it.

Also these links disagree:

Cars for Sale: 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in ORANGE CITY, FL 32763: Coupe Details - 391051823 - AutoTrader.com

This one not even supercharged:

Cars for Sale: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in TAMPA, FL 33612: Coupe Details - 390429823 - AutoTrader.com

Also not supercharged and has 20k more miles:

Cars for Sale: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe in Charlotte, NC 28212: Coupe Details - 375253871 - AutoTrader.com

And another NA:

Cars for Sale: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS in Kingsport, TN 37660: Coupe Details - 377290599 - AutoTrader.com

I only take comments as "bashing," if they blatantly are.

You seem to be having trouble following along.

 

Rare because GM knew no one would buy a banana yellow sedan. Apparently that dealer does too


Wrong.

If you meant quicker, and are comparing a stock SC to a stock TC then yes. The TC is 4 tenths of a second quicker. Not much.

But if you are comparing a Stage 2 SC to a stock TC then again, you are wrong.

Here's a good demonstration:
I don't understand why so many people think the TC is faster/better than the SC. They are the same vehicle. The only reason GM turbo charged them after 07 is because their contract with Eaton expired. It wasn't because turbo is better. If you need proof than look at drag cars and how long they have been using SUPERCHARGERS. Not turbo. You have to use 2 turbos to get the same power arch.


So you would pay more for an even heavier modified version? That goes against what others are saying in this thread.


Thanks for your best wishes on my sell. Luckily I'm not trusting you to sell it for me



Maybe if you wait long enough you'll find one as nice as mine Time = money though doesn't it.

 

If it's so nice then why are you selling it?

 

So then, you spend all that money on GMS2 and supporting mods, and I spend $600 on a downpipe and tune from a good tuner? And then we race and who's faster?? I can tell you because I have owned 2 LNF's. And I would take 1 yellow sedan made out of 15 total... That's right, 15 total, over a very common silver SC anyday just for the cool factor. The sedans are way more functional as far as space is concerned and just as fast. Like I said, any informed buyer would be very loose with their money to even give you 7500, so good luck. If I buy an LSJ, the chances of it being supercharged for more than 6 months are slim and none, know why? The m62 is ******* slow. The amount of money that has to be poured into the m62, or a TVS setup for that matter will never be as good as a turbo swap, idc what anyone says. There are far more fast LSJ-Ts than TVS LSJs.

 

Um, you have obviously lost credibility on this one. The TC is not the same vehicle. The reason GM switched was due to emissions.

In stock and lightly modded form, the SS/TC will curb stomp an SS/SC. From power, suspension, braking, cornering, clutch, axles, the SS/TC is much better than the SS/SC.

And no, mods don't add value, they subtract value.

You will have to find a sucker to pay this much. A bank won't loan on a car that is well over Blue Book.

Hell some of us bought SS/TCs for $18k with no miles on them. I wouldn't expect to get more then $9k for my own SS/TC. Your car is 10 years old. Yes mileage is a factor, but so is age. You get all kinds of factors on a car due to age. Rust, worn rubber parts, effects of sitting, etc.

 

Glws. Damn I guess I'm the only one who thinks it's cool to have a supercharged 4 banger lol. We all know turbo makes more power but you really don't need more than 350 to the wheels in a fwd anyways. But it's about preference and we are all different.

 

damn you guys are brutal.

I agree with his price being high... but if you're not buying it... be done with it. You already stated your cases.

 

It's not that we're not buying it. It's that NOBODY is going to buy it for anywhere near his asking price. You would need a clean LNF with about 25k miles on it to pull 13k, and even then that's a dealer price. We were, at first, just politely trying to inform him that he was probably going to have to settle on half his asking price to sell it. That is, until he tried to justify his price with really bad reasons.

 

Was thinking the same. If he sells it for that much good for him. when he realizes after 2-3 months no one calls him about it.. he will probably come to grips with reality that no one will pay his asking price and lower it. Simple as that. You guys are beating a dead horse

 

Sometimes it is fun to throw rocks.

 

hey everybody leave him alone on the price, price bashing is NOT allowed. he can charge a million gazillion for all he wants that is up to him, and up to you to offer money or walk.

 

you still really need to actually post the pics into the thread directly. use photobucket and img codes.

 

people on here get more and more ridiculous as the years on these cars go by...which is why i only lurk now days..is not much fun been here anymore. OP is your car and by looks you took care of it 10 times better than most LNF & LSJ owners on here. Ask what you think you deserve for keeping a car in that condition. will you get it? who knows but ignore what people on here say..

 

It's practically spam when somebody comes on here and posts their car for sale at 2x it's actual value. And he didn't follow the rules for a for sale thread in the first place, so it's almost warranted.

 

Out of necessity. I would very much like to keep it but I just don't have the space or need for three vehicles. Especially when I could put the money to better use.

 

Not sure you watched the video but...

It still comes down to preference which is what I said from the beginning. My preference would be a supercharged coupe. Yours would be a banana yellow sedan. Great go buy that one.

And when you still pay much more than this one and only beat me (if your clutch work is good enough) by a half second I'm sure you'll feel very rewarded.

 

I will race you for pinks bro.

 

Credibility? I seem to be the only poster in this thread backing up my post with links. And yeah sorry I did leave the emissions part out so here is the whole quote:

"The LSJ engine did not meet emissions requirements for the 2008 model year, and General Motors' contract with Eaton had expired" - Wikipedia

Also if you have a list of differentiating parts for the two vehicles I would like to see it. (not being sarcastic here)

It seems you didn't watch the video either.


You also don't seem to be following the links I post as they were to 3 naturally aspirated SS's selling for more than what you are suggesting I sell mine for. Some with more miles.

If mods don't add value, then explain this vehicle:

Cars for Sale: 1991 Chevrolet S10 Pickup 2WD Regular Cab in CLINTON, IL 61727: Truck Details - 379082007 - AutoTrader.com

Thanks

 

If you define "brutal" as "Not reading complete posts" then I agree.

It's not really about the asking price of the car. Or at least that's not what I intend by prolonging this thread.

I already stated several times I know I may not get $13k for this car but I'd be stupid not to try. Especially since it requires only typing digits into a computer and waiting.

What I'm trying to get is answers/opinions on why people agree with the way the market is set up for certain mods for certain cars and the perceived value of those cars.

Maybe it's too philosophical for this board as we keep going back to SC vs TC and ignoring links and facts I post.

But thanks for trying to remind people if they aren't buying it they shouldn't be so concerned/offended over the asking price.

 

ask infraredline about whp on fwds lol.

 

Hehe.

A 2007 with almost the same miles and more mods on it just got posted in the OP's town for 7500.

 

We'll see.


(Ignoring the LNF comment.) Why is it okay for a dealer to get more?


It's always tough to discern attitude through text but I'm not sure many of these post were "polite."

Bad reasons? Dealer offers at $10k, all receipts for mods adding up to nearly $6k, taking extremely good care of the car since I bought it new, barely driving it, providing links to stock & even NA Cobalts for nearly $10k? Those are not good enough for you? Only other thing I can offer is a 100 point dealer inspection producing flawless results.

I'm sure that's still not enough though. Good thing you aren't buying it I guess.

 

Have already agreed to this logic several times.