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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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My 1st Time.

Tonight after waiting for a little over an hour to run was the first time I ran at the track. I was expecting mid 15's (lol) being Ive never touched the drag strip before. Here is what the slip says:

R/T ... .958

60' ... 2.374

330 ... 6.481

1/8 ... 9.815

MPH ... 73.19

1000 ... 12.715

1/4 ... 15.1

MPH ... 92.91

I know it aint the greatest time but It made me happy to outdo myself. Some guys told me to take off half a second to make it a "real" time (Do to being here at high elevation vegas). So I guess that makes 14.6 corrected or whatever. I had a second run as well but was WAAAY worse due to bad civic advise. Anyway, I had fun anyway though and plan to do some more runs after every mod.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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Good job, I've never taken my car on the 1/4mile yet.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:40 AM
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Thx, yeah It was a pretty cool experience. Ive been there probably 8 times to spectate but was way better experience obviously seeing the whole track infront of you and people in the stands lookin at the sexy yellow.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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u did about the same as me.. i had a 15.0 at 96.26 mpg but my 60s was 2.51

i meant mph lol not mpg ..now i sound like a toyota commerical

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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Deff good time considering elevation! You can still shave .1-.2 off your 60' though.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by G85Cobalt
u did about the same as me.. i had a 15.0 at 96.26 mpg but my 60s was 2.51

i meant mph lol not mpg ..now i sound like a toyota commerical
What track did you run at?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Good job! Have you tried dropping the air pressure in your front tires? My 60' times went from an average of about 2.35 to about 2.26 (still room to improve). That's one of the most fun things about drag racing - working on little "setups" and using other techniques to shave off some time
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Not meaning to jack the thread but I see your 9.815 1/8th mile time....I have no 1/4 miler anywhere close but my best 1/8th is a 9.173. Appoximately what would that be in 1/4?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Not meaning to jack the thread but I see your 9.815 1/8th mile time....I have no 1/4 miler anywhere close but my best 1/8th is a 9.173. Appoximately what would that be in 1/4?
just do some searchign on here and look at other members slips, that will give you a rough idea
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dervin3
Not meaning to jack the thread but I see your 9.815 1/8th mile time....I have no 1/4 miler anywhere close but my best 1/8th is a 9.173. Appoximately what would that be in 1/4?

Take your 1/8 mile time and multiply it by 1.54. This is not exact, of course, but it will be a good approximation.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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2.9 60 foot......i could run faster then that. no joke. Lol. You need a driver mod as well as something to help grip. 2.3's should be fairly easy to get though
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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yeah 2.9 is pure driver error sorry. i can launch better than that on the street, possibly in 2nd gear haha
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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I need traction mods bad!!!!!!!!
Sorry but as said above you need the driver mod only. There is no reason why any cobalt shouldn't 60ft in the 2.2-2.3 range on stock tires. If you're spinning tires then use less throttle until you stop spinning, launch like you're leaving from a red light and just give enough gas to accelerate witout spinning the tires at all. It will look slow but will result in 2.2 60ft's for sure, remember it's all in your right foot.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pablo
Sorry but as said above you need the driver mod only. There is no reason why any cobalt shouldn't 60ft in the 2.2-2.3 range on stock tires. If you're spinning tires then use less throttle until you stop spinning, launch like you're leaving from a red light and just give enough gas to accelerate witout spinning the tires at all. It will look slow but will result in 2.2 60ft's for sure, remember it's all in your right foot.
Actuly I do really do need traction mods, and as I said I was not launching the car hard at all. If I wanted to tear up a second set of axles then I could have launched harder, but I wanted to baby it. My car only has around 1000 miles on it new set of axles. Wheel hop on my car already bought one set of axles. Why should I tear up a new set when all I have to do is wait until I get CAB's and a engine dampner. I am very happy with these passes, once I get the traction mods I will lauch a whole lot harder and easily be in the low 14's.

Originally Posted by hatrickstu
yeah 2.9 is pure driver error sorry. i can launch better than that on the street, possibly in 2nd gear haha
No not driver error, its called rolling of the line to prevent wheel hop. I did not launch it hard at all. Only got 1000k on this set of axles. Once I eliminate the wheel hop my 60' will go way down. I will actully launch the car harder then, unless someone else wants to pay for my next set of axles? Then I will pull 2 sec or less 60' times, but toast the axles in a few runs.

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by HViper
Actuly I do really do need traction mods, and as I said I was not launching the car hard at all. If I wanted to tear up a second set of axles then I could have launched harder, but I wanted to baby it. My car only has around 1000 miles on it new set of axles. Wheel hop on my car already bought one set of axles. Why should I tear up a new set when all I have to do is wait until I get CAB's and a engine dampner. I am very happy with these passes, once I get the traction mods I will lauch a whole lot harder and easily be in the low 14's.



No not driver error, its called rolling of the line to prevent wheel hop. I did not launch it hard at all. Only got 1000k on this set of axles. Once I eliminate the wheel hop my 60' will go way down. I will actully launch the car harder then, unless someone else wants to pay for my next set of axles? Then I will pull 2 sec or less 60' times, but toast the axles in a few runs.
Just thought I would let you know comming from a exp. track driver. I ran consistant 14.2s @ 100mph trap speed. I'm the only stock SS/Sc to hit 100mph trap and it has alot to do with not spinning the tires. You will not break axles with stock power inless you let the wheel hop keep going like a bunny. What I'm trying to say is, the ^ advice about 2.2 60ft times is correct. I'm telling you, you should not get any wheel hop, if you get wheel hop your on the gas to hard. Tone it down, start off slow and slowly give into the throttle. If you start to wheel hop or spin let off just a very little bit. Its amazing how sensative a launch really is. Good luck...
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
Just thought I would let you know comming from a exp. track driver. I ran consistant 14.2s @ 100mph trap speed. I'm the only stock SS/Sc to hit 100mph trap and it has alot to do with not spinning the tires. You will not break axles with stock power inless you let the wheel hop keep going like a bunny. What I'm trying to say is, the ^ advice about 2.2 60ft times is correct. I'm telling you, you should not get any wheel hop, if you get wheel hop your on the gas to hard. Tone it down, start off slow and slowly give into the throttle. If you start to wheel hop or spin let off just a very little bit. Its amazing how sensative a launch really is. Good luck...
I apricate it man, but the car is not stock. It breaks loose the tires very easily in 1st gear. I really was not launching the car hard because I do not want to until I get anti-wheel hop mods. Like I said before I am on my second set of axles. The first set's CV joints were destroyed after I caught the porters at the dealer doing burnouts in the back of the dealer. They made a bad clicking noise when turning at first and then later on straight line driveing to. With the Stage 2, intake, GMMP header and catback exhaust I am making a little more power than stock. I get really bad wheel hop. Wheel hop will prematurly wear and or break axles among other items. I know what everyone is saying about how to launch, but it was not this I assure you. I was mainly curious to around what my trap speed would be. Both times I traped around 96-97mph. Ihis gives me a good ideah of where I be once I get some traction mods.

Car is not stock, wheel hop is bad. Nuff said, deleting post of track times. Sorry for highjacking your thread Hick, just thought I would share some info. I guess not wanting to launch your car hard with out traction mods is a crime on this forum. Hope they break a axle.

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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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The thing is we're telling you NOT to launch hard. You're launching too hard if you're spinning or getting bad hop, people are trying to give you advice and you're stubborn because you don't want to admit that in all honesty you don't know how to launch.

Stock or 300whp you should be able to 60ft the same, if you can pull a 2.2 stock, then why wouldn't you when modded? If you take it easy and follow the same procedure you will 60ft the same, sorry for trying to help, good luck being in the 15's
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pablo
Sorry but as said above you need the driver mod only. There is no reason why any cobalt shouldn't 60ft in the 2.2-2.3 range on stock tires. If you're spinning tires then use less throttle until you stop spinning, launch like you're leaving from a red light and just give enough gas to accelerate witout spinning the tires at all. It will look slow but will result in 2.2 60ft's for sure, remember it's all in your right foot.
Pablo is right. he got my 60's in check. I have done 2.2 consistently and I have a personal best of 2.18 on stock tires. this is when the car was stock and modded.

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Actuly I do really do need traction mods, and as I said I was not launching the car hard at all. If I wanted to tear up a second set of axles then I could have launched harder, but I wanted to baby it. My car only has around 1000 miles on it new set of axles. Wheel hop on my car already bought one set of axles. Why should I tear up a new set when all I have to do is wait until I get CAB's and a engine dampner. I am very happy with these passes, once I get the traction mods I will lauch a whole lot harder and easily be in the low 14's.



No not driver error, its called rolling of the line to prevent wheel hop. I did not launch it hard at all. Only got 1000k on this set of axles. Once I eliminate the wheel hop my 60' will go way down. I will actully launch the car harder then, unless someone else wants to pay for my next set of axles? Then I will pull 2 sec or less 60' times, but toast the axles in a few runs.
I tried Bwoody's traction bars. they work in stopping all wheel hop. Traction mods is not a proper term. Anti-wheel hop is a correct term. tires and proper prep give you the level of traction you can have and a control lauch maximizes that traction.

Originally Posted by R&C_rallySS
Just thought I would let you know comming from a exp. track driver. I ran consistant 14.2s @ 100mph trap speed. I'm the only stock SS/Sc to hit 100mph trap and it has alot to do with not spinning the tires. You will not break axles with stock power inless you let the wheel hop keep going like a bunny. What I'm trying to say is, the ^ advice about 2.2 60ft times is correct. I'm telling you, you should not get any wheel hop, if you get wheel hop your on the gas to hard. Tone it down, start off slow and slowly give into the throttle. If you start to wheel hop or spin let off just a very little bit. Its amazing how sensative a launch really is. Good luck...
Absolutely agree!!

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I apricate it man, but the car is not stock. It breaks loose the tires very easily in 1st gear. I really was not launching the car hard because I do not want to until I get anti-wheel hop mods. Like I said before I am on my second set of axles. The first set's CV joints were destroyed after I caught the porters at the dealer doing burnouts in the back of the dealer. They made a bad clicking noise when turning at first and then later on straight line driveing to. With the Stage 2, intake, GMMP header and catback exhaust I am making a little more power than stock. I get really bad wheel hop. Wheel hop will prematurly wear and or break axles among other items. I know what everyone is saying about how to launch, but it was not this I assure you. I was mainly curious to around what my trap speed would be. Both times I traped around 96-97mph. Ihis gives me a good ideah of where I be once I get some traction mods.

Car is not stock, wheel hop is bad. Nuff said, deleting post of track times. Sorry for highjacking your thread Hick, just thought I would share some info. I guess not wanting to launch your car hard with out traction mods is a crime on this forum. Hope they break a axle.
Guess you will never know till you try it. heres another tip. shift at theses points

1 to 5000rpm then hit 2nd
2nd to 6200prm then hit 3rd
3rd just wind it out - not worth shifting to forth i dont think but it may give you more.
WHY - dont go by the hp curve of a dyno look at your torque curve and traction you can maintain and rpm differences between shifts. it should all become clear. if not then just try it. I went from a 14.2 to a 13.9 with a 2.25 60 ft. Mods I had at the time was GMS2 and a drop in filter. that is it.

were all here trying to help you. what would it hurt to try our suggested techniques? to be fast you have to be smooth and maintain that traction. it is not about the burn out. watch the pros. after their burn outs they will leave the line not squealling or burning out. it is all forward momentum.

I really hope that helps.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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The thing is we're telling you NOT to launch hard. You're launching too hard if you're spinning or getting bad hop, people are trying to give you advice and you're stubborn because you don't want to admit that in all honesty you don't know how to launch.

Stock or 300whp you should be able to 60ft the same, if you can pull a 2.2 stock, then why wouldn't you when modded? If you take it easy and follow the same procedure you will 60ft the same, sorry for trying to help, good luck being in the 15's
I really apricate the tips, this is my first (2nd if you count my first balt SS/SC) fwd sports car. My only point is that I did not launch my car hard. I rolled of the line and did not really hit hard it until 2nd gear. I did this because I did not want to gat any wheel hop due to brand new axles in my car. True I could of hooked up better with a little bit of throttle control, but did not even want to try. I just got my car back from the dealer that day and went straight to the track from the dealer for opening night of midnight mayham. My car has been in the dealer for the last 2 months. I did not want to break anything seeing how I had just got my car back and it was finaly fixed.(Intermitent failure of security module) For one I had not launched my car in over 2 months, and I was not really ready to even try. I did not want to launch to hard and tear up my new set of axles, was mainly interested in finding out around what speed I would trap. I was happy with my trap speeds. I will have new CAB's and a Ingalls before the next time I go. I will also be used to my car again. I had been driving a 4x4 07 colorado the whole time my car was in the dealer. I had my car back for less than 4 hours when I made those passes. Give me a break people.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Sorry for being an ass Go back to the track and try a few different things out next time and let us know how it went
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HViper
I really apricate the tips, this is my first (2nd if you count my first balt SS/SC) fwd sports car. My only point is that I did not launch my car hard. I rolled of the line and did not really hit hard it until 2nd gear. I did this because I did not want to gat any wheel hop due to brand new axles in my car. True I could of hooked up better with a little bit of throttle control, but did not even want to try. I just got my car back from the dealer that day and went straight to the track from the dealer for opening night of midnight mayham. My car has been in the dealer for the last 2 months. I did not want to break anything seeing how I had just got my car back and it was finaly fixed.(Intermitent failure of security module) For one I had not launched my car in over 2 months, and I was not really ready to even try. I did not want to launch to hard and tear up my new set of axles, was mainly interested in finding out around what speed I would trap. I was happy with my trap speeds. I will have new CAB's and a Ingalls before the next time I go. I will also be used to my car again. I had been driving a 4x4 07 colorado the whole time my car was in the dealer. I had my car back for less than 4 hours when I made those passes. Give me a break people.
Ingalls is a wast of money. wheel hop is when you are breaking traction so just back off slightly. you want to push the limit here. if you get wheel hop you know that it is too much power. you get a feel for it after practice. the only traction aid that works to provide traction is tires and a light foot. CAB is a good idea for handling and strength. it is the true cause of wheel hop (control arm deflection) A rear bushing would help as well. pretty expensive though. if you ever want a link to a company that does that work just PM me. honestly to get a 13.9 My revs were at 1000 rpm and I didnt dump or anything like that. just easy out quickly and push till the limit of wheel hop. short shifted it to use the torque as already explained and 3 tenths off my time. it was awsome.

let us know about your success. Oh and tire pressures plus burn out. I heat up the tires before it helps with the pirellis. pressures ran was 22 in front and 50 in the rear.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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you guys get pretty good traction for fwd cars, 2.3 is pretty good.....in my mustang the best 60 i can get is a 2.3
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