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Old 09-26-2012, 01:39 AM
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Okay, so I own a 06 cobalt LS auto, and a buddy of mine owns a 03 civic ex 5 speed. We've both come to the agreement that were going to see if either one of our cars can reach a 13.5 1/4 mile. My car is still stock and his only has a drop in K&N filter. Just wanted some advice and some.tips. Idk if its ever been done. But we are trying to do this challenge ALL MOTOR. Including no nitrous.
My way of attacking this challenge is completely put the car on an extreme.diet, and getting extremely light weight parts for the thing (flywheel, overdrive pulleys, cam gears, etc) then going for more power and beefing up the stall to maybe a 3000 rpm stall. What would you do?
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Oh, if you live in south texas, we will be doing a base run next Friday. Were taking the better of 2 runs
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you turboing or supercharging? dont think people have gone 13.5 on a na cobalt...run where? this coming friday?
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13.5 N/A is going to be tough. the fastest 2.4 NA is 14.5 and Newt has a built NA motor in his Sunfire ( lighter than our Cobalt's) an has gone 13.9 IIRC. it could be done, but you could've bought a ZL1 for what you'll spend getting there. Boost it!
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Neither. Gonna do all motor. And not this Friday, next Friday. At the edinburg race track
then it's a good goal to get mid 13's all motor!
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Nah ill pass on the boosting. I want the challenge and if I can't do it then ill consider a shot of nitrous.
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with the right gearing... I'm sure I can break the 2.2 record. Just... gonna be tough.
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And as for weight. I weigh 110 pounds haha. I am a weight reduction
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are you atleast getting a tune before? lol I could hook you up with one if you have a wideband. Tune would help a shitloads. I dont think you'll get into 14s though with being all stock...I would go to the racetrack and try out my car but unfortunately my tires are crap so I dont have any
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Well as of right now I'm bone stock. And its a 2.2 ls. So I'm expecting a 16 second run. And I wouldn't mind a tune! I could use something to adjust my air fuel but I don't have a wideband. Maybe I can just set my spark timing... And maybe rid of my airbag light xD
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i think the only way to get rid of airbag light is to have a airbag in there. mines on too.

yeah youll probably run 16s...figure ill run 15s my first time since ive never been to the racetrack and probably wouldnt know how to launch correctly
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I haven't been there since 08... -.- bout time.I.go back
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oh cool. do you know if it closes for the winter or not? I wanted to go during winter for low temps and make the supercharger love the weather
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I doubt it does. I've lived in houston for the past years so I'm unaware of the managements changes. But you should go! Or hit me up or something
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hmmm ill see whats up man, cant really do any runs right now since i dont even have matching tires haha. we had like a mini cobalt meet this past saturday and i wanna get as many cobalts as possible together to go in the winter on a day with like 60 degree weather or something
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At the McAllen park? Someone told.me about it but I was busy.

It's all good I got 3 different tires on my cobalt haha

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yeah the mcallen park. I was sorta busy but i dropped by before they went to the park and then when they were at the park i dropped by again for about an hour
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I didnt get to make it out, maybe next time
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its all good there will be other times
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Buy a different car would be my suggestion if you wont boost. neither one of you will break 14's even if super weight reduction is achieved you dont have a chance of hitting it on stock tires and suspension. As the LT and even that civic are not meant for the 1/4, For the record i held the single cam honda record at UTI drags in a gutted 04 EX sedan(literally spent a day removing EVERYTHING i could) with sticky falken tires back in 03-04, and it was running mid to high 16's! Even nitrous wont help as you dont have the tires or setup to make the car hook on a sticky track! If your really set out it will take time and alot of practice and $$$$. there is no lightweight flywheel it's an auto you have a torque converter! And cam gears and light weight pulleys wont make you gain really anything just free's up drive train loss! start with the basic's a new tune for both motor and trans. And decent tires and see what you get if your really set on your goals! Good luck!
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Well.I'm also planning on building a Sr20 240sx, and a 96 eclipse.gst. its nust a project to see what I can.do. and yeah my mistake about the flywheel, tis my first automatic car I.keep.forgetting. money.isn't a problem either
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Originally Posted by ErmaK
Well.I'm also planning on building a Sr20 240sx, and a 96 eclipse.gst. its nust a project to see what I can.do. and yeah my mistake about the flywheel, tis my first automatic car I.keep.forgetting. money.isn't a problem either
Well then do the basic drag stuff. Sticky front tires and limit the weight transfer to the rear (footballs) and go from there once fully tuned! It's not impossible just not easy! I would like to see it happen just am realistic! lol you should have seen the looks i got beating every other Single cam that was older/lighter and modded when i was stock with tires and weight reduction! But this was also before the FWD serious drag tuner crowd came about allmost 10 years ago! Sub for results!
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Gonna be hard to do.

My car makes 193whp all-motor, and runs in a 13.3 @ 99 with a 1.7 60'

It however only weighed 2390lbs.

So if you can cut enough metal off your car to drop ~600lbs, build a full motor that makes 193whp, and build the trans so it won't slow you down....

Then yes its possible....otherwise...not gonna happen.


Been there, done it.....all-motor is a game of efficiency, I have more tied up in suspension and wheels and tires than I do in my motor.

Don't expect to end up with a Cobalt that runs 13.5 on the motor and won't drive you crazy after driving it on the road for 30 mins.

It will be loud, it will be rough, it will run like a bag when its cold out, it basically won't be very pleasant at all.


Your money tho, feel free to chase the dream...but 99% chance it won't happen.
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We'll see what happens, its gonna be tough. But I'm aiming for around 250 bhp.
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100% for sure, not gonna happen.


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