sauced1173

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I recently installed the GM performance clutch & throwout bearing along with a new pipe from the slave to the slave block. I also installed an aluminum flywheel. I have been driving the car for 2 days now and the pedal still doest feel quite right. I have been pumping the pedal and applying vacuum as well for the past two days whenever i park, not to mention after initial install.... are there any tips or tricks or ideas or something else i am missing to make this pedal come back. it engages right at the floor and is difficult to shift. any information will be helpful, thank you

Steve

huckernage

zzp adjustable rod

Iam Broke

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QFT. Had to install one with my SPEC Stage2+ in an LNF, same issue as you are having.

GOt the engagement point up off the floor but it's a b!tch to install the rod.

zrated89

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if his oem one isnt bent then the rod is a bandaid and he isnt really fixing the issue. OP did you make sure the clutch pipe was tight and seated right into the slave cylinder? If not you could be pulling air back into the system. I also bled mine traditionally with another person pump and hold method. Took a while but my pedal is hard as a rock

ItalianJoe1

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It still sounds like an air issue. I've vacuum bled the systems and had them come out perfect, seems that some cars just don't work that smoothly though. Try old-fashioned bleeding. I got a good pedal out of an Exedy car with just the vac bleeder, but it doesn't work that well on all clutch jobs for some reason.

sauced1173

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thanks for the input guys. i am sure the pipe is tight. it snapped into place like it was supposed to. also, there is no evidence of fluid leakage.

on the way to the CED show this weekend, the clutch completely went away while driving. we pulled up to a toll booth and had no clutch to shift into gear and move the car. we were able to limp the car off to the side where i shut it off and applied the vacuum to it and let it cool and sit. after a while, i pumped the pedal and were able to get enough to get the car moving again. i then stopped at a trans shop where they had the car for 2 hrs and said yeah, you are doing everything right. the only thing we can do is pull the trans out and bench bleed the whole system and install it as an assembly. needless to say, i said no thanks and left continuing on to our destination. it appears as though the clutch is leaking down during driving and has to be pumped up before each use.

this tells me there should be an air leak somewhere, but wouldnt fluid leak out as well? could the master cylinder have decided to take a **** now too???

what should my next step be? thanks

Steve

sauced1173

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I spoke with Tom today. He says if the part is defective it should be warranted. I am not sure it is thought, it seems if there was a leak i would see wetness. please correct me if i am wrong on this assumption.

also, i believe they only share the reservoir. I could also be wrong on this, but if i am correct the clutch master is directly behind the clutch pedal...

sauced1173

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almost. not completely. I have been replacing it with DOT 4 brake fluid. I want to flush the entire brake and clutch system with new DOT4. just want it to work right now.

ItalianJoe1

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Common reservoir, different masters. You can replace the clutch master, but I doubt it will solve the problem.

There is a vent on the bottom of the bellhousing flange, if it's leaking inside the trans, fluid will drip out the bottom.

zrated89

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i meant the same resevoir my mistake

huckernage

i bleed it by this way. want to my dealer for vaccum bleeding. it was worst.

when i cannot ingage it i pull over and remove air from the line.
there is a cap that you can put a hose.
then removed Cclip.
pull on the line about 1/16''.
DOt should come by the tube.
something you can see bubble.
but i m case, i got some saw dust because i loose my cap reservoir. i worked at a sawmill

dont forget that if you still have micro air bubble, you still have air. a lot micro bubble make small bubble.

zrated89

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you know when i was running at langley i was having a problem where my clutch was slipping, and the clutch would start engaging soon as i let of the pedal. I never did flush my fluid i think i may

we have a bleeder port on top of the bellhousing where the clutch pipe goes into on the F35 to bleed ours

huckernage

on cold start is it engage easily

sauced1173

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no, i always have to pump up the pedal now it seems everytime i stop and restart. parking or stopping at traffic light. have to pump up the pedal

sauced1173

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still no suggestions huh? I just replaced the master cylinder and still no improvement. I guess the next step may be the zzp rod... then if that doesnt work, its all coming back apart... woo hoo ( not really ) but i dont know what else to do...

ChineseWop

Is there an easy way to get at that?

huckernage

did you pay a garage for bleeding process.

still has air in your line
or
is your reservoir keep level or you have to put DOT 3 eveyday.

can you put a picture like mine. i want see someting if u can

Pauleboy

I have an 06 SS SC with the "Exact" same problem, and NO Solution (as yet).
Dealer has changed the clutch master cylinder twice, the slave cylinder, clutch disc & pressure plate and nothing is leaking. My normal mode of operation while driving now is to pump the pedal (just the freeplay, not dis-engage the clutch) until the pedal comes up where it belongs. I have no idea and it is the only thing that has been wrong with the car.

Daniel Rangel

I have have the same issue, just can’t get the clutch to work ! Any help would be great appreciated ! Thansk

steelmesh

You might just want to start a new thread, OP hasn't logged in for 9 years it appears.

Is there a factory bleed procedure? My 2006 Pontiac needs you to apply and release a vacuum multiple times to help it bleed.

ECaulk

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Iirc the vacuum and pump multiple times is the factory procedure.

KobarutoSS

Bumping thread as I could use help with similar issues.