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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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09 ss tc

I didn't know car was tuned when I got it! Here is Dyno of *before* (1st tune Geen line) and Dyno tune *after* Blue line:





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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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told ya! glad you got it figured out!
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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There some pretty good numbers what tune you running? What mods also?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam84
There some pretty good numbers what tune you running? What mods also?

We don't know who flashed the first tune before I got the car. Church Automotive pulled the whole tune and looked at it under a microscope..lots of maps were changed. It was a custom tune very much like the one Church actually uses himself. He said it was pretty decent. However, car was detonating a bit..so he flashed over it with his custom tune..richen..etc and provide more torque down low (2000-4500RPM). After the tune, I could rip the tires in second which I couldn't do before

OH..I have absolutely NO MODS AT ALL.....ZIP! All bone stock...not a single aftermarket mod you can *SEE* anyway.

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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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About this Dyno (Dynapack) and Dynojet

http://home.earthlink.net/~spchurch/id12.html

Registers *about* 10 HP more to the wheels than Dynojet.


This is why we recommend people use a rough percentage adjustment to estimate flywheel hp on the Dynojet versus a rough fixed adjustment on the Dynapack. In our experience, a manual transmission FWD car will lose 20-25 hp to the hubs on the Dynapack. A RWD car will lose 25-30 hp and an AWD car about 35-40 hp (the FWD case has been verified on an engine dyno). In contrast, losses on the Dynojet will be in the 12-14% range for FWD and 14-16% for RWD (opinions vary).

Let's work through a comparative example for the same car on a Dynapack and Dynojet.

Car A produces 205 hp to the hubs on the Dynapack. This would equate to between 225-230 hp at the flywheel. The same car produces 195 hp to the rollers on a Dynojet. This would equate to 222-226 hp at the flywheel. Furthermore, the difference in power matches up very well with our calculated difference due to inertial losses. And interestingly enough, we have tested just such a car on our Dynapack and a Dynojet back to back with the same results (actually 196 vs. 206 hp).
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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how many threads have been created about this???

Happy for yu bud, don't get me wrong. But now try and do some bolt-ons and really open her up!
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Take it to the track and stop with the little dyno queen. Dyno means nothing unless you have trap speeds to back them up.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Lets see some track times! Get some slicks put on it.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by leoaa777
Take it to the track and stop with the little dyno queen. Dyno means nothing unless you have trap speeds to back them up.
Not everyone has the opportunity to get *trap speeds" and I don't care to drag race my car.
They ask for DYNO results on this thread don't they? You see OTHER dyno charts posted here...don't you? ARE THEY ASKING FOR TIME SLIPS?. Have you ragged on their asses too? BTW..take a look at my pics on the Imge link...ever done any real ROAD RACING?
Man, I wish they had an *ignore* feature here

Shaun Dyno Tuned the car, he's a great guy:




http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...ed=0CC0Q9QEwAg

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mexi_loco
how many threads have been created about this???

Happy for yu bud, don't get me wrong. But now try and do some bolt-ons and really open her up!
Ok..I found someone else who has the same car and was dynoed and tuned at the same place (Church). The ONLY difference is that he has Intake, DP, , CP bolt ons.
He got another 15 HP and 20 TQ:
*Note: the stock run appears to have had the bolt ons (makes sense..before &after dose same day) worth 15 HP or so. The Church dyno accounts for another 15HP, since it dynoes around 15 higher than a dynojet. That gives you a *stock* run that's +30 over stock around 245HP.




Again my car, no mods, just tune:



So, it appears all the bolt ons he used are worth around +15HP or so. Nice, but not a big deal in this case.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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yeah, my stingy 297whp got me 12.9 @ 113.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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I will race you with my M62, E85 Redline.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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^ poptart!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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^ poptart!
lmao!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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much love broda!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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much love broda!


The nice thing about reading dyno results of a kO4 SS/TCs is....the only thing that matters is what is going on at 5252 and what happens after that.

All that low end TQ does not really mean much. It looks pretty on a graph but that is pretty much it...
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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HP>TQ son.

I raced my buddy in his TVS (supporting mods) and we were DEAD even from a 50 roll in 2nd gear (cold out) and from 60 in 3rd, I pulled him by half car at least (where the TQ shows)

These cars have strengths in different areas, don't get on a high horse!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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lets see some track times hoss
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ebristol


The nice thing about reading dyno results of a kO4 SS/TCs is....the only thing that matters is what is going on at 5252 and what happens after that.

All that low end TQ does not really mean much. It looks pretty on a graph but that is pretty much it...
Really? You think accelerating off the corners @ 3500 doesn't count?

You better drive my car
Anyway, How does 4.8 sec from 60-90 and 6.4 sec from 60-100 sound?
Torque Accelerates period...HP tells you how far you can take it.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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how does 4.7 60-100 sound

As carol shelby once put it, HP sells cars, TQ wins races
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC
how does 4.7 60-100 sound

As carol shelby once put it, HP sells cars, TQ wins races
Friggn' awesome. It would take at least 375 HP(give or take) to the wheels to do it
That's in some serious company! 11 sec QTR for sure.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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RONN...you've already posted all of this stuff in a diff. thread....give us all a break or something NEW!!! glad you're stoked about your find, just give it a rest
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by suprare'09
RONN...you've already posted all of this stuff in a diff. thread....give us all a break or something NEW!!! glad you're stoked about your find, just give it a rest

I was thinking about that, but these post tend to get *lost* and burried. Just because I posted somwhere else a while back, doesn't mean that someome reading this thread was aware of that post. Even I had a problem finding it again.

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Have you been to the track yet?
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kildore
Have you been to the track yet?
I'm gonna say this up front..I don't drag race the car. It's not that I haven't ever raced either (see Image Link if you want)...just road racing. I can understand why you guys would like to see times...it's not going to happen in my case. There are many reasons for this I won't get into.. one of them being>>>>I don't wanna beat up this car! I know what running race tracks can do to a car. Also, drag racing measures DRIVER SKILL. My posts are directed at CAR POTENTIAL not drivers skill.
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