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Old 02-25-2015, 04:44 PM
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Fastest stock turbo LNF

Who can tell me what was done to the cobalt lnf that's in the front page of ZZP page that made 383whp on stock turbo
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Probably cams ported head e85 4.45 trans and the max boost that poor little k04 can support
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Forreal? I tried to get 4.45 and my tuner said they break more than the LSJ ones
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Originally Posted by casasgonzalez6824
Forreal? I tried to get 4.45 and my tuner said they break more than the LSJ ones
Well that doesn't make sense, the 4.45 is a 10% improvement over the LSJ?
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whos your "tuner" also the turbo won't last at those levels very long

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I think they were at 28 psi. I'd do 30 :wink:
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James rakes Hagerman

Also does the intake/cam fuel lobe to run full e85 makes a difference or no?

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Yes it does and you will need it to help aid fueling.... What's the timing set at in your tune?
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
Yes it does and you will need it to help aid fueling.... What's the timing set at in your tune?
Eeh im not so sure or rememeber exactly I can check that out! And to for that is there anything else to run full E besides that?
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I see you're from Carol stream! Are you in the Chicagoland Ecotec page on facebook ??
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Well that doesn't make sense, the 4.45 is a 10% improvement over the LSJ?
When you see who his tuner is, that statement makes sense.

Another thing zzp has that most don't is the driver mod, they have a lot of seat time at the strip and I'm assuming their dyno can also do simulated 1/4mile since its a mustang dyno
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What's wrong with james? I been talking to Terminator2 for tunes idk. I have my stage 3 clutch masters ready along with intake/cam fuel lobe upgrade and Opel HP injectors
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The cam and injectors would be a good idea.

Nothings wrong with James as a person I just don't 100% agree with how he does things mechanically and tuning wise but to each is their own. I'm not trying to start a pissing match nor do I care about his opinions of me either.pos

The fact that he says the 4.45 is weaker is a joke though. I find it funny he thinks he is smarter then the race teams such as Georgia bay that ran koni/continental challenge cobalts and John Powell and i who all road race using these transmission and put them through he'll and then some. Don't get me wrong nothing is unbreakable especially if you can't drive worth a crap and use crappy clutches like a lot of people do on here or extremely hard launches on sticky tires . That's what I find to be the trans killer on here 90% of the time.

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Originally Posted by Omiotek
The fact that he says the 4.45 is weaker is a joke though. I find it funny he thinks he is smarter then the race teams such as Georgia bay that ran koni/continental challenge cobalts and John Powell and i who all road race using these transmission and put them through he'll and then some. Don't get me wrong nothing is unbreakable especially if you can't drive worth a crap and use crappy clutches like a lot of people do on here or extremely hard launches on sticky tires . That's what I find to be the trans killer on here 90% of the time.
This was my point, and the fact he claims he completely designed the ky clutch for the lnf.
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This was my point, and the fact he claims he completely designed the ky clutch for the lnf.
Which almost any car that comes in with their clutch I usually take out and replace because most people hate them.
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Okay you seem to know your stuff more than me! I got my injectors and cam thing! Don't really want to upgrade turbo! What im worried about is trans and what 3.82 break!! James had me on ramp boost! 345whp 345trq on stock clutch, bolts on and e47
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I had Pwerks hp tuned before made 281whp/ 314trq same mods and got obviously more power out of james car pulls great now I heard about terminator2 so idk what would be best and more supporting Mods! We have a remote tuner in schaumburg IL so any would be able to tune
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Same dyno and both on e47?
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No he didn't redyno on our dyno and he was also on 93 on our dyno when we originally tuned him and also had factory 2 bar sensors so making the power he is at now isn't out of the question if he came to us to do 3 bars and a e47,tune. Would of made similar power on our dyno.
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& with 93 tune from james I was around 310 I would think, felt quicker when I had the 3 bar map sensor but I blew it with the fan. Turbo XS lower pipe sucks with that it's too close
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My advice if you're worried about breaking your stock tranny is DO NOT REPLACE YOUR CLUTCH. The stock clutch will fail (slip) before the trans goes boom so that is a cheap insurance policy to replace. Take it from someone who learned this the hard way. My stock clutch held fine on the K04 when I was at 359whp/418wtq on full E85, stock fuel system. Not just street driving, ***** to the wall road track.
On the ZFR I upgraded my clutch before my tranny and she lasted exactly 15 laps, lol. My Powell 4.45 has performed wonderfully since with practically ONLY road track miles - knock on wood
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Originally Posted by Omiotek
No he didn't redyno on our dyno and he was also on 93 on our dyno when we originally tuned him and also had factory 2 bar sensors so making the power he is at now isn't out of the question if he came to us to do 3 bars and a e47,tune. Would of made similar power on our dyno.
Ok figured there was something more there and also assuming you guys setup more of a road track help the car actually function tune, and comparing two different dynos is a crap shoot.

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& with 93 tune from james I was around 310 I would think, felt quicker when I had the 3 bar map sensor but I blew it with the fan. Turbo XS lower pipe sucks with that it's too close
Honestly I bet he slammed the wastegate closed to get a bigger spike in boost and therefore a larger torque spike. Guy local to me spiked 29psi (27psi sea level) broke 400wtq on e85, it should be noted this was a Terminator ***** to the wall tune. And this guy below also Terminator tuned and local to me

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My advice if you're worried about breaking your stock tranny is DO NOT REPLACE YOUR CLUTCH. The stock clutch will fail (slip) before the trans goes boom so that is a cheap insurance policy to replace. Take it from someone who learned this the hard way. My stock clutch held fine on the K04 when I was at 359whp/418wtq on full E85, stock fuel system. Not just street driving, ***** to the wall road track.
On the ZFR I upgraded my clutch before my tranny and she lasted exactly 15 laps, lol. My Powell 4.45 has performed wonderfully since with practically ONLY road track miles - knock on wood
Can't forget we're at altitude so the guys down lower will start slipping earlier, but its def a good idea to save the transmission by letting the clutch slip. Also we can run e85 on the stock fuel system since we're at altitude but still top of 4th we start to run out of fuel
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every dyno reads different and if james had you on a dynojet then obviously it will read higher. i can make your car make 1000hp on our dyno on the stock turbo if i really wanted to. but it would just be a bs number by playing with the dyno settings and we dont play that game. if you added map sensors then you will make more power as you open up tuning capabilities. it has nothing to do with james tuning abilities to make that power. its about right for the setup you have just like where your at now.

ecaulk - i do not tune for customers. only for myself. i push my cars to the limit as well as some of the tuning when i want. the boss handles that. we normally do a more of a "street" setup with a some what peaky spike but its not a immediate hit. most street car guys don't want that gradual road race build up. Each car is tuned to the customers application and needs. my tune likes to blow turbos every 35-50k lol. they see their fair share of abuse on the track and off the track so to me that mileage is pretty good. not to mention i run extremely lean and i spike to 27psi. just for fun i haven't changed my tune based on the weather even in -20 degree weather just to see how the car will act. that's usually something i tell our customers is that we test and tune on my car and through all conditions and environments. that's why i can say our products are race proven and track tested as they usually see the track time 6-12 months prior to release.
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Originally Posted by colodude18
My advice if you're worried about breaking your stock tranny is DO NOT REPLACE YOUR CLUTCH. The stock clutch will fail (slip) before the trans goes boom so that is a cheap insurance policy to replace. Take it from someone who learned this the hard way. My stock clutch held fine on the K04 when I was at 359whp/418wtq on full E85, stock fuel system. Not just street driving, ***** to the wall road track. On the ZFR I upgraded my clutch before my tranny and she lasted exactly 15 laps, lol. My Powell 4.45 has performed wonderfully since with practically ONLY road track miles - knock on wood

Stock clutch with 418wtq??? Wtf how? Lmao & what did you have to make almost 360?? I like those numbers tbh. And how much was that 4.45 Powell set up? I have buddies with the saab 2.8T might help me out with the F40


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