I will start by saying that I love my Cobalt SS S/C, but I was disappointed by this show. For all the potential GM had at their fingertips, I was disappointed that they only did the stage 2 kit engine wise. To make up the diference the gutted it. I thought it was supposed to be a STREET Tuner challenge...something that you could still use as a daily driver. I don't think that anyone would want to drive that down the street with such an obvious paint job and without a radio and A/C. I do want that carbon fiber spoiler, roof, deck lid, and hood. I think my Blue SS would look good with a carbon fiber racing stripe.

The Skyline GT-R would have schooled the cobalt on the track had XS been smart enough to update the rest of the drive train. As for the dyno test it was no contest, it has been boasted for years that the Skyline's 2.6 can be pumped up to around 500HP without changing internals. In Japan the Skyline had a racing class set asside for after it dominated the other classes for so many years. To run the Jetta and the SS against it is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. XS clearly had the potential to sweep the whole show, but lacked the common sense to do so.

ADB made the mistake of installing nitrous. Personally I would throw a handful of dirt directly into the intake before I ran nitrous...you get the same result in the end. It did look really good though. I'm not a fan of the new Jettas, but I wouldn't mind owning one that looked like that.

 

Here is a video of a Skyline GT-R's potential. This was tuned by Mine's.
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....1358852BEC&p=0

 

Skylines have been tuned to well over 1000hp for Top Speed racing. Not much use on a road course when exiting a corner could mean alot of uncontrollable wheels spin and maybe a wrecked car in the process.

I too would have been more happy with a Street based car which would be competitive.

I am not impressed with Stage 2 if that's all it put down was 235hp. Now that the SRT-4's days are numbers, when production ends in Nov when the factory shuts down. The SS will be the class leader in output but far short of what the SRT-4 did with Stage 2 which put the car closer to 270hp.

235hp better get 13 second 1/4 mile times...

If you go over to insider.speedtv.com, the CCR Producer Dan Woods post over there on the Sport Tuning broad. He will answer my questions which is basically a repeat of the post I made here.

insider.speedtv.com

 

235HP to the wheels, 275HP to the flywheel.

 

there were a few deciding factors in why the SS finished 1st...it definitely wasn't the quickest or best handling car there so I wouldn't exactly call it a victory but it was a cool show to watch.

 

Wanna watch it again?

It was the quickest car that turned laps at Buttonwillow by some 4-5 seconds. Reguardless of how powerful the Skyline was, XS was ill-prepared with an untested car compared to GM's litterally 100's of racing miles with a simlar car.

The Skyline's best laptime was 2:05 mins and the Cobalt was 1:58 and that's an forever on road course.

The deciding factor was GM brought out the heavy guns in Powell Motorsports, an experienced road racing team in the Rolex Grand American Cup Championship and driver they used for this test/race.

Highly modified Skylines in the US that are reliable are very rare because of the lack of OEM replacement parts if something breaks.

It took the better part of 4 years for a Skyline to last long enough to win Sport Compact Car's Ulimate Street Car Challenge. So its of no suprise that this car untested, broke down in competition.

STC will return next summer...

 

I never talk in terms of flywheel, those stats mean nothing.

Stage 2 SRT-4's are doing over 270hp at the wheels, not at the flywheel.

Once owners stop being chicken around their "new" cars, you'll see some Cobalts run 13's, maybe even 12's...

 

Once people get over the warranty issue is more like it.

 

Sweet !

 

I'm sure thats what he meant ....but I am being a vagina about my warranty as well

 

what i liked was the 2300 lbs..... thats some weight savings!

 

I don't need to watch it again, the only reason the Cobalt pulled the best times is because the other cars could barely make it around the track.

Had they all been 100% with no problems the results would have been different.

 

This is unbelivable. A 275 hp cobalt SS beat a 600+hp GT-R? Everyone knows the GT-R is unbeatable. Even if that car has a bearing problem, beating it with a 275hp car is still unbelievable. Is the cobalt really that good? The Front drive chassis can actually handle that power and torque and beat the super advanced legendary unbeatable GTR!

Does anybody have the video of this? It's a must-see!!

 

I noticed that some of you complained that the low 275 hp, I'm really disappointed. Anyone knows this ecotec can handle like 1000+ hp, but this is real course racing not those stupid drag races that most people in America only care about. More can only result in slower lap times, because its front drive chassis can only handle that much. That's also a reason the BTCC Astra race car is also about 280hp but NA. 300 is probably the best most power most front drive cars can handle, so the BTCC limit is set to that as well.

 

posted previously,...

Don't forget to watch ^^ http://www.speedtv.com/programs/384/

P.S. the show is being run as a series ... I am going to call SpeedTV to see if they have a full copy that can be sold

 

but i don't have cable tv. Is there a download on the web site?

 

It was on tv while i was at a restaurant, so i couldnt really hear it, i wish the episode was on the website, im sure it's possible for it to be taped and transferred to the web

 

Yeah somebody really needs to get that video on here for everyone to see

 

I have it recorded on my hard drive, I love tv tuner cards. I don't know how to send it. Plus it is a large file, around a gig. It also has the NOPI tunervision where they test drive the Cobalt.

 

If you don't know how to or can't compress the file, the best way to share it would probably be to use some file sharing software like limewire. Tell us what you use, when you'll be online, and what the file is called. Once a few of us have the file we should be able to distribute it to all the members that want it before long.

 

you know how to make a torrent file? that would be best

 

I don't use peer-to-peer programs, and I have no idea what a "torrent file" is. I have someone working on trimming it up right now, might be a while though.

 

don't forget those headers

 

Wow, and I didn't know bubbles was on the team!!!!!!

 

That's Great, but it sure doesn't look stock. Slicks...? WTF..