Modifications for fuel economy
I had seen in an ealier post in this topic that you should turn off your ac to save on gas. That is half true and I would like to point this out for everyone's benefit. on a hot day you are either gonna roll the window down or turn on your A/C... especially you guys down south. Now rolling down the window helps while you are moving and not while you are waiting at the stop sign or red light. I read (and it has been proven, I just don't know where) that keeping your windows open up to 40 MPH is more efficient when trying to save gas. After 40 MPH you should use your A/C cause at that point the drag faced from moving becomes more of a gas user then using the A/C.... Sorry I don't have a reference to prove this statement. But I hope this help a few of us out.
I too have read that ^.
I read 2 or 3 articles a while back that said under 50mph windows down is more efficient. Over 50mph, turn on the air.
I wish I'd have kept those articles bookmarked!!!!
I read 2 or 3 articles a while back that said under 50mph windows down is more efficient. Over 50mph, turn on the air.
I wish I'd have kept those articles bookmarked!!!!
I've been hearing that there are certain mods that will improve fuel economy on the Cobalt. I'm very interested in this. So:
- What type of modifications are available?
- Where can they be purchased?
- Generally, how much will they cost to purchase and have installed?
- How effective are they?
- To what degree will they hinder performance?
Last weekend I went from Houston,Tx. to Baton Rouge, La. at about 65mph and got 40mpg. No real mods, just inflated tires to sidewall pressure. Oh, and I don't have cruise control either. Going to put underbody panels on and block front upper grill, and see how that does since I have to go back again , this weekend or next.
Also currently looking into other Fuel economy forums to get ideas for better mpg.
Also currently looking into other Fuel economy forums to get ideas for better mpg.
Last edited by theneelster; Jul 29, 2008 at 05:59 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Well, naturally your best mileage is going to be in high gear. You'll never get very good mileage at 25mph. Probably the optimal speed is in the 50 to 60mph range. I was on vacation in the Adirondacks last week and went about 300 miles at around 55 to 60mph. Based on mileage and how much gas I put in the tank at the next fill-up, I got 44mpg.
so basically the lowest RPM in 5th gear.
With a Vector tune + intake, I get an average of 8L/100km (~30MPG) when doing about 85% city + 15% highway
One more tip:
Use your cruise control as much as possible, the ECM leans out the A/F ratio a bit
I had seen in an ealier post in this topic that you should turn off your ac to save on gas. That is half true and I would like to point this out for everyone's benefit. on a hot day you are either gonna roll the window down or turn on your A/C... especially you guys down south. Now rolling down the window helps while you are moving and not while you are waiting at the stop sign or red light. I read (and it has been proven, I just don't know where) that keeping your windows open up to 40 MPH is more efficient when trying to save gas. After 40 MPH you should use your A/C cause at that point the drag faced from moving becomes more of a gas user then using the A/C.... Sorry I don't have a reference to prove this statement. But I hope this help a few of us out.
Under 60 km/h (~35 mph), put your windows down
Over 60 km/h (~35 mph), turn the AC on
You will maximize your efficiency that way. Of course the best is to sweat your ass off and drive with your windows up and AC off
Last edited by pat_07ss; Oct 8, 2008 at 01:05 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Last edited by chevy cobalt 08; Oct 21, 2008 at 08:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Take a dump before getting in the car...
Seriously though, get the Trifecta tuning.
People are getting serious gains in fuel mileage.
It is $300 for the tune, but with gas still being $3 a gallon and knowing after the election it will dart back up, it is definitely worth it.
Seriously though, get the Trifecta tuning.
People are getting serious gains in fuel mileage.
It is $300 for the tune, but with gas still being $3 a gallon and knowing after the election it will dart back up, it is definitely worth it.
I hope you read your tire size wrong. 205/40/17 are less about 23.5" tall. TINY....small rolling dimater = High rpms!! My TC tires are 25" tall and I wish they would have put something that was 25.5" or so
If you have a SC it seems like people are getiing better mileage with the stage 2.
Without a wind tunnel you won't know if lowering the car will help or not.
Plus it depends on your average driving speed.
If 80% of your driving is city, it probably won't help.
If it's 80% highway, it might help.
When you lower the car you decrease the amount of air that flows under the car. That, i.e., puts more down force on the car. This increases the theoretical "weight" of the car.
If you were to lift the car, the increase in air flow under the car decreases the "weight" of the car by lifting it off the ground.
This is what it means when drivers will tell the crew chief the car feels loose or tight.
It's not as easy as blindly saying lowering the car increases MPG.
Plus it depends on your average driving speed.
If 80% of your driving is city, it probably won't help.
If it's 80% highway, it might help.
When you lower the car you decrease the amount of air that flows under the car. That, i.e., puts more down force on the car. This increases the theoretical "weight" of the car.
If you were to lift the car, the increase in air flow under the car decreases the "weight" of the car by lifting it off the ground.
This is what it means when drivers will tell the crew chief the car feels loose or tight.
It's not as easy as blindly saying lowering the car increases MPG.
Lowering a vehicle does NOT produce downforce. It increases aerodynamics by reducing the vehicles total swept area. You don't need a wind tunnel to prove this, although that will help determine the *actual* benefit, as it will vary by car. Either way, it's not really significant. If you were to lower your car just to save gas, you'd probably never save enough to even pay for the springs. But obviously there are other benefits.
Oh, and even if you dont have DFCO, coasting to a stop/slow down saves fuel anyway. I am gonna pop a cap in the @ss of the next perswon who whips out DFCO like its some new technology or new invention here to save us from high fuel costs
Think of it this way, every time you use your brakes you waste fuel.
If you use your brakes that means your taking your cars kinetic energy(motion) and turning it into heat with the brakes. You had to burn gas to create heat and motion in the engine to get the car going though....
If you coast, youll lose speed lower, which means your fuel moved you farther....isnt that the definition of fuel mileage??
Last edited by Maven; Nov 5, 2008 at 12:58 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Fuel economy... it's mostly in the tuning.
GM tunes for extreme safety of the motor with the average driver, in the average climate, and the average elevation... Remember.. they have to warranty these cars.
GM tunes for extreme safety of the motor with the average driver, in the average climate, and the average elevation... Remember.. they have to warranty these cars.
I used to put my car in neutral and coast to a stop but I just read in Car and Driver "10 best myths about fuel econmy" or something like that and they say to keep the car in gear (automatics) and that will give you better fuel economy according to GM and Toyota engineers.
I had seen in an ealier post in this topic that you should turn off your ac to save on gas. That is half true and I would like to point this out for everyone's benefit. on a hot day you are either gonna roll the window down or turn on your A/C... especially you guys down south. Now rolling down the window helps while you are moving and not while you are waiting at the stop sign or red light. I read (and it has been proven, I just don't know where) that keeping your windows open up to 40 MPH is more efficient when trying to save gas. After 40 MPH you should use your A/C cause at that point the drag faced from moving becomes more of a gas user then using the A/C.... Sorry I don't have a reference to prove this statement. But I hope this help a few of us out.
Last weekend I went from Houston,Tx. to Baton Rouge, La. at about 65mph and got 40mpg. No real mods, just inflated tires to sidewall pressure. Oh, and I don't have cruise control either. Going to put underbody panels on and block front upper grill, and see how that does since I have to go back again , this weekend or next.
Also currently looking into other Fuel economy forums to get ideas for better mpg.
Also currently looking into other Fuel economy forums to get ideas for better mpg.



