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Old May 14, 2005 | 02:48 AM
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Can anyone get traction?

Launching this thing is a bitch! Its so hard to get traction through first gear. Even when I'm starting from a roll and I hit it I break free and don't fully grab until second gear. Tips?
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:14 AM
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Launching this thing is a bitch! Its so hard to get traction through first gear. Even when I'm starting from a roll and I hit it I break free and don't fully grab until second gear. Tips?

Wider tires, feather throttle and clutch.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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Wider tires, feather throttle and clutch.
Yeah, its just feathering all the way through first seems like a bad option... its deffinately alot easier to launch a slower car! i can't imagine what you go through with the goat.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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Yeah, its just feathering all the way through first seems like a bad option... its deffinately alot easier to launch a slower car! i can't imagine what you go through with the goat.
He has RWD & LSD
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Old May 14, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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****, even im having problems launching my LS
if i launch at 3k, and give it decent throttle, it spins
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Old May 14, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Yep it's a pretty crappy problem to have huh?

LSJ rocks
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Old May 14, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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This should help you out


I keed! I keed! hehehehe
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Yep it's a pretty crappy problem to have huh?

LSJ rocks
No kidding! Best problem ever! It is kinda fun to have a car that actually requires a little skill to run.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Launching this thing is a bitch! Its so hard to get traction through first gear. Even when I'm starting from a roll and I hit it I break free and don't fully grab until second gear. Tips?
Its a front wheel drive economy car. Not built to drag race.... Thats what V8 RWD cars are for.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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i call it acceleration wear, the dealership calls it blowing the tires off! Go figure
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Funny how in some other threads people say "I have never needed/missed having LSD" but in this thread they say "how do you keep the front tires from spinning at launch?"

How ironic!

Too bad the delays had to screw it up for some of us.

Oh, and JapEatr, Hello from Houston!
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ssstraub
Funny how in some other threads people say "I have never needed/missed having LSD" but in this thread they say "how do you keep the front tires from spinning at launch?"

How ironic!

Too bad the delays had to screw it up for some of us.

Oh, and JapEatr, Hello from Houston!

Yeah but the LSD doesn't help with the absolute traction of the front tires. I would wager the LSD folks will have simular issues.

I think where the LSD will shine is in the corners where the drive wheels don't share the same traction.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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I love this thread. It's gotten me giddy with anticipation for my SS.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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I think we need a explaination of Limited Slip Differentials on this site.

People act like SS's without LSD are slower and spin because of no LSD.

I don't really see any benifit of LSD on a FWD anyway. There is enough weight that 99%both tires spin and power the car in a straight line and in corners if a open diff spins so will a limited slip.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
I think we need a explaination of Limited Slip Differentials on this site.
I admit that my knowledge on the subject isn't too detailed. Just what I've read mostly. I would welcome a good explanation. I'm sure Google can help us there.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Well I finally nailed a perfect launch today... the b16 civic didn't see it coming!!
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Old May 15, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Its a front wheel drive economy car. Not built to drag race.... Thats what V8 RWD cars are for.
You idiot, these things are raced in all sorts of circuits. It has a different suspension, different engine, and different transmission than you econobox version. I guess being faster than audi TT's, as fast as porche boxters, G35's etc etc makes them econoboxes
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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If you watch the Motorweek video of the 1/4mile runs that is on this site then you will "hear" that the SS/SC that was epuipped with the LSD (that's what they had for testing) doesn't seem any better than the non-LSD car in a drag racing scenario. If you watch that video you will here them squealing the tires through first and partially through second.

Also, I belive in the SRT-4 comparison article that Motor Trend did, they said that the LSD wasn't working in an optimal condition in the SS/SC due to the was that Chevy had some suspension components setup.(To stiff of a swaybar on the front or something like that)
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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No FWD or RWD Limited slip will prevent the inside tire from spining under hard throttle.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
I think we need a explaination of Limited Slip Differentials on this site.

People act like SS's without LSD are slower and spin because of no LSD.

I don't really see any benifit of LSD on a FWD anyway. There is enough weight that 99%both tires spin and power the car in a straight line and in corners if a open diff spins so will a limited slip.
Benefit = bad weather traction. Namely.. snow.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Voodoosoup
Also, I belive in the SRT-4 comparison article that Motor Trend did, they said that the LSD wasn't working in an optimal condition in the SS/SC due to the was that Chevy had some suspension components setup.(To stiff of a swaybar on the front or something like that)
I been saying the whole time the 1500 bux for the G85 upgrade is better spent on suspension upgrades.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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I bought an 03 SRT-4 which did not have the factory LSD. About a month ago I swapped in a 04 tranny (w/ factory LSD) and there is a huge difference. In straight line accel under less than optimal conditions (read crappy track prep at the local dragstrip on "street night") I dropped about a tenth off my 60' time.

Accelerating out of corner is where the big difference is. With the open diff, hammering it out of a corner resulted in nothing but tire-smoke from the inside wheel. With the LSD, the inside tire still does squeal, but not as bad as before and the car hooks up and takes off. Before I put the aftermarket springs on, the back end would actually swing out in a hard corner under acceleration.

Can't wait to get the baffles installed in the oil pan (I removed the balance shaft assy & now need something to keep all the oil from running to the ends of the oil pan under heavy cornering) so I can run it in an AutoX and see how it does.

So my recommendation would be, if you can get it with a LSD, do it.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Thanks!
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zinner
I been saying the whole time the 1500 bux for the G85 upgrade is better spent on suspension upgrades.
Right, but what I want is a factory LSD w/ warranty, then a rear sway bar. I imagine by the time I buy, there will be some people here with both.
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