View Poll Results: Which is an overall better purchase for the $$
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Cobalt SS vs NEON SRT-4
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Cobalt SS vs NEON SRT-4
OK I'm sure there might already be one of these on here but... mine is better!
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Be nice, remember they are both american cars show some respect.
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I have to go with the Cobalt SS, its a fresh new car.
As for the NEON SRT-4, aside from the fact that I cant ever see myself driving a NEON, it's really not a bad car... I dont know why people argue over these two cars anyways, lets talk SRT-4 and Cobalt SS vs the world of imports
As for the NEON SRT-4, aside from the fact that I cant ever see myself driving a NEON, it's really not a bad car... I dont know why people argue over these two cars anyways, lets talk SRT-4 and Cobalt SS vs the world of imports
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While I admit that I haven't driven either, I have to go with the Cobalt SS. Even though the SRT-4 is slightly faster, I just don't think I could bring myself to drive a neon, which is the worst car made by a failed car company now owned by Germans. Give me a good ol American Chevy Cobalt SS, a few small upgrades (a new pulley would probably work), and I'll have a car that is better looking, has a nicer interior, and can outrun an SRT-4. Let's make sure that GM doesn't go the way of Chrysler people. Wouldn't it be horrible if Ford was the last remaining American car company??
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I'm gonna ride the fence on this one and speak on both cars... What I think the pros and cons are for both...
Dodge Neon SRT-4
Pros:
1. Sedan
2. Available perfromance kits from factory and aftermarket
3. More powerful engine
4. Available appearance modifications (wheels, carbon fiber, etc.)
5. Mopar mods are covered under warranty
Cons:
1. Sedan
2. Styling (inside and out)
3. Braking
4. Cost
Cobalt SS Supercharged
Pros:
1. Coupe
2. Pirelli tires standard
3. Supercharged engine
4. Braking
5. Less demanding to drive
6. Price v. compared models is competitive
7. Great factory stereo
Cons:
1. New model (recalls soon?)
2. Leather standard
3. Late release
4. Steering could be more responsive
5. wheel bolt pattern
6. Little performance upgrades and modifications
Personally, I prefer GM products to DaimlerChrysler. They're not the world's largest automaker for nothing! I think the folks at Lordstown are doing a great job, aside from the late release thing. Keep up the good work and no recalls!!!
Dodge Neon SRT-4
Pros:
1. Sedan
2. Available perfromance kits from factory and aftermarket
3. More powerful engine
4. Available appearance modifications (wheels, carbon fiber, etc.)
5. Mopar mods are covered under warranty
Cons:
1. Sedan
2. Styling (inside and out)
3. Braking
4. Cost
Cobalt SS Supercharged
Pros:
1. Coupe
2. Pirelli tires standard
3. Supercharged engine
4. Braking
5. Less demanding to drive
6. Price v. compared models is competitive
7. Great factory stereo
Cons:
1. New model (recalls soon?)
2. Leather standard
3. Late release
4. Steering could be more responsive
5. wheel bolt pattern
6. Little performance upgrades and modifications
Personally, I prefer GM products to DaimlerChrysler. They're not the world's largest automaker for nothing! I think the folks at Lordstown are doing a great job, aside from the late release thing. Keep up the good work and no recalls!!!
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Uh, just curious why you put cost as a con for the SRT-4 and Pro for the SS? They're both about the same price...
And what's the deal with the wheel bolt pattern? (not to hijack, but I haven't heard of this)
And what's the deal with the wheel bolt pattern? (not to hijack, but I haven't heard of this)
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Originally Posted by mchat
Uh, just curious why you put cost as a con for the SRT-4 and Pro for the SS? They're both about the same price...
And what's the deal with the wheel bolt pattern? (not to hijack, but I haven't heard of this)
And what's the deal with the wheel bolt pattern? (not to hijack, but I haven't heard of this)
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Uh, just curious why you put cost as a con for the SRT-4 and Pro for the SS? They're both about the same price...
And what's the deal with the wheel bolt pattern? (not to hijack, but I haven't heard of this)
And what's the deal with the wheel bolt pattern? (not to hijack, but I haven't heard of this)
OK... I just priced a SRT-4 with the comparable options I will get on my SS Supercharged and the MSRP for the SRT-4 is 24,325. My MSRP is $23,115.
The wheel bolt pattern is the rarest bolt pattern I've seen aside from 20" and up wheels. But those are even becoming more accessible. I've gone to every wheel shop I know in the Cleveland area, big franchises and mom and pops, and I can't find a NICE set of wheels for the SS. Just gotta wait.... Hope that answers your question.
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Originally Posted by bruff1977
OK... I just priced a SRT-4 with the comparable options I will get on my SS Supercharged and the MSRP for the SRT-4 is 24,325. My MSRP is $23,115.
The wheel bolt pattern is the rarest bolt pattern I've seen aside from 20" and up wheels. But those are even becoming more accessible. I've gone to every wheel shop I know in the Cleveland area, big franchises and mom and pops, and I can't find a NICE set of wheels for the SS. Just gotta wait.... Hope that answers your question.
The wheel bolt pattern is the rarest bolt pattern I've seen aside from 20" and up wheels. But those are even becoming more accessible. I've gone to every wheel shop I know in the Cleveland area, big franchises and mom and pops, and I can't find a NICE set of wheels for the SS. Just gotta wait.... Hope that answers your question.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/general-cobalt-68/new-16-18-rims-available-cobalt-2197/
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Originally Posted by bruff1977
OK... I just priced a SRT-4 with the comparable options I will get on my SS Supercharged and the MSRP for the SRT-4 is 24,325. My MSRP is $23,115.
The wheel bolt pattern is the rarest bolt pattern I've seen aside from 20" and up wheels. But those are even becoming more accessible. I've gone to every wheel shop I know in the Cleveland area, big franchises and mom and pops, and I can't find a NICE set of wheels for the SS. Just gotta wait.... Hope that answers your question.
The wheel bolt pattern is the rarest bolt pattern I've seen aside from 20" and up wheels. But those are even becoming more accessible. I've gone to every wheel shop I know in the Cleveland area, big franchises and mom and pops, and I can't find a NICE set of wheels for the SS. Just gotta wait.... Hope that answers your question.
What is the bolt pattern anyway?
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Ah you must have put the "competition" package on it, which upgrades it to an ACR... A SRT-4 ACR greatly improves the handling over the stock SRT-4. As far as I know, no magazine has put it through its paces yet, but I'd be willing to bet that it'd outhandle the SS.
What is the bolt pattern anyway?
What is the bolt pattern anyway?
yes, I placed the ACR package on the SRT-4. The SS Supercharged has handling upgrades as well. The bolt pattern is 5x110.
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Originally Posted by bruff1977
yes, I placed the ACR package on the SRT-4. The SS Supercharged has handling upgrades as well. The bolt pattern is 5x110.
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Actually, now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't be hard to take the hubs off and take them to a local machine shop to have them re-drilled for the 5 on 100 bolt pattern. You could have them place the holes half way between the existing ones and then you'd have a "dual pattern" hub. Probably could find a local machine shop to do it for less than $50/hub.
Something to think about.
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cobalt is more refigned car, better handling and brakes, if gm comes out with the claimed 230-340hp stage 1 then its in srt-4 territory as far as acceleartaion goes. tires are good but i prefere the srt-4's tires, i'm a bfgoodridge fan, thoes g-force kdw are awsome tires. 6 speed srt-4?? since when? but cobalt ss s/c all the way.
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That really sux. Sounds like there's an opportunity for a business to make some aftermarket hubs in either the 5 on 100 or 5 on 114.3 (5 on 4.5") patterns. Would a kit which includes all 4 hubs be worth $300-$400 to ya? (Just a guess on price between $75-$100 per hub). That would give you a much larger wheel selection...
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Actually, now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't be hard to take the hubs off and take them to a local machine shop to have them re-drilled for the 5 on 100 bolt pattern. You could have them place the holes half way between the existing ones and then you'd have a "dual pattern" hub. Probably could find a local machine shop to do it for less than $50/hub.
Something to think about.
Edit:
Actually, now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't be hard to take the hubs off and take them to a local machine shop to have them re-drilled for the 5 on 100 bolt pattern. You could have them place the holes half way between the existing ones and then you'd have a "dual pattern" hub. Probably could find a local machine shop to do it for less than $50/hub.
Something to think about.
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Originally Posted by bruff1977
I'm not familiar with modifying or replacing the hub, but it sounds unsafe.
What I'm getting at is if it's that simple to replace a hub, then GM shouldn't have put that wacky bolt pattern on the SS Supercharged. These GM execs knew that the Cobalt(all trims) has aftermarket potential. All the way down to the wheels. I hope wheel companies notice this and modify their products.
Some wheel companies will adapt and some companies wont. Another option may be to call the wheel manufacturer and get a wheel that hasn't been drilled (some manufactures will do this others won't and it depends on the design of the wheel if it will work or not) and then have a machine shop drill it for the odd 5 on 100 bolt pattern.
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cobalt is more refigned car, better handling and brakes, if gm comes out with the claimed 230-340hp stage 1 then its in srt-4 territory as far as acceleartaion goes. tires are good but i prefere the srt-4's tires, i'm a bfgoodridge fan, thoes g-force kdw are awsome tires. 6 speed srt-4?? since when? but cobalt ss s/c all the way.
Editing now...
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Here's a page for a machine shop that does this for Ford Thunderbird's (redrill hubs for the Mustang pattern):
http://www.geocities.com/stus_cobra/irs_machining.html
http://www.geocities.com/stus_cobra/irs_machining.html
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im a mopar person for sure its all i owned till i got the cavy but for this ill have to go with the SS i love the srt but its just become way too common around my area much the same as STIs and Evos plus i prefer s/c to turbo
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Originally Posted by RedCavyRS99
im a mopar person for sure its all i owned till i got the cavy but for this ill have to go with the SS i love the srt but its just become way too common around my area much the same as STIs and Evos plus i prefer s/c to turbo
You should want to drive a popular car... if you drive a 25k dollar car that isnt all over its crapy not exclusive this isnt a 200k dollar car we are tlaking about here
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Originally Posted by Eddie
cobalt is more refigned car, better handling and brakes, if gm comes out with the claimed 230-340hp stage 1 then its in srt-4 territory as far as acceleartaion goes. tires are good but i prefere the srt-4's tires, i'm a bfgoodridge fan, thoes g-force kdw are awsome tires. 6 speed srt-4?? since when? but cobalt ss s/c all the way.
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I was reading a magazine, I dont remember which one, where they did a Cobalt SS vs SRT4 test. It was a 05 SRT4 and I heard they toned those down a little. Anyway, the SRT4 and Cobalt SS were almost exactly the same acceleration wise, and the Cobalt seemed to handle better (something like .87g for the SRT4 and .89 for the SS. And the SS had a faster slalom speed). I was excited to read about that.