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John Lake Apr 12, 2010 02:37 PM

The END of COBALTSS.NET
 
(Just for clarification - Not really the end of the site - Well, Hopefully not for a long time - Just play on words to get people to read - my bad!) - BUT - the end is approaching for the car that started it all..... Post is just a salute to the car and to the creators of this site.

All in all - an impressive - if brief - run ... maybe more impressive than some would have you believe.

I'm disappointed that the Cobalt will be dead and from it's ashes will rise The Cruze. Early indications are that the Cruze will be a fine car - BUT - with nothing at all in the near future that could match the Performance of any of the Cobalt SS models. The Cruze will truly be a 'new' model - just as - the Cobalt was basically a completely different car than the one that came before.

Such is life.. The Cobalt replaced the Cavalier in 2005 and has been associated with that car ever since - even though - the cars shared almost nothing. In fact - It may be hard to remember because of all the negative press that has been heaped on - but - Many first reviews were quite good - calling the Cobalt a far better car than it's predecessor. I chose a positive review of course - there were some negative - but - I found more positive than negative out there initially.

I already wrote pretty much my complete story on ownership at General Cobalt - Road to my Cobalt SS Turbo... needless to say - I am a fan of the car.




2005 Review:


"The Cobalt, my friends, is a truly outstanding vehicle."
http://www.roadandtravel.com/roadtes...oletcobalt.htm






The Supercharged SS Version has received some negative comments since the turbo debuted - more a case of how great the Turbo is - and not because the SC is a bad car. The linked Motor Trend review is pretty impressive.

2005 Review:


"If turned heads on the freeway are any guide, the Cobalt SS may be one of the best lures yet to get younger drivers coveting Chevrolets. What's even more promising is the depth of the competency of the SS; it reflects positively on the soundness of the entire Cobalt line and points to a car that's better, far better in a few ways, than it had to be. If this is a glimpse of a new GM that'll no longer settle for "just good enough," we're genuinely heartened."
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz0ktU2Orys

- Just a side note: The Base SS/ Sport models with the 2.4 are not given much respect 'in general' because the TC and SC models are such better performers BUT - they were a nice step up over the base models - and in relation to price with other vehicle's - had impressive performance.. in a 2007 comparison - the 2.4 came in second place for cars starting at less than $20,000 - only behind the V6 mustang.





Now the Turbo... Mostly positive reviews - AND - in some cases... True overall praise. I even found some that didn't completely trash the interior : ) All SS's were produced in very limited #'s - so - if you have one you shouldn't be seeing your car on every corner. I wish I could buy a second new SS turbo while they are still out there - put it in storage - and only take it out when my current car dies after hopefully a long full life.



2008 Review:


"The initial forays to The Ring were to develop the Corvette. But, along the way, these engineers were also assigned to spruce up Chevrolet's humdrum Cobalt into a world-class performer. As a result, Chevrolet has an impressive sport compact car that has the alacrity of cars normally costing twice its $25,000 price tag."

"The interior is also more upscale than other Cobalts with suede-like seat inserts to grip your backside in the corners, satin nickel trim and titanium-faced instruments. A boost gauge is incorporated in the base of the A-Pillar; in the case of this tester, it was offset by about 30 degrees making it hard to read while in motion."

"The performance bargain of the year?

Standard equipment includes air conditioning, cruise, tilt steering wheel, upgraded audio system with Pioneer amplifier and seven speakers, including a 10-inch subwoofer, power locks and remote keyless entry. While some of the small details are less than impressive, the all-round performance and refinement of chassis and drive train cannot be matched at anything near this price."

http://autos.ca.msn.com/reviews/2008...entid=19292850

kretty Apr 12, 2010 03:01 PM

its not the end for the site, just the end of production for the model. people will still own cobalts and continue to look here for help with all the problems they will have.

John Lake Apr 12, 2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by kretty (Post 4836548)
its not the end for the site, just the end of production for the model. people will still own cobalts and continue to look here for help with all the problems they will have.

I know Kretty - just a play on words for attention.. but Thanks!

ralliartist Apr 12, 2010 03:10 PM

think DSMtuners.com and DSMtalk.com

cobaltss.net is far from over. I doubt it will ever grow into what the dsm forums are, but it'll still be a unique and very large site. Over the next few years, you will see some really fast cobalts start to come out of their woodsheds and get some attention.

TommyP Apr 12, 2010 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by ralliartist (Post 4836576)
cobaltss.net is far from over. I doubt it will ever grow into what the dsm forums are, but it'll still be a unique and very large site. Over the next few years, you will see some really fast cobalts start to come out of their woodsheds and get some attention.

I agree. While the SS may never see as large of an aftermarket as many other cars such as the civic, I think in the future with the large number of LS/LTs and the limited number of true SS, you will start to see some (not many, but some) engine/tranny swaps because the excuse of "just buy an SS" will no longer really be valid. That and the aftermarket for the 2.2 will begin to explode as the potential for the engine will really be tapped. I foresee many great builds in the coming future, as expertise only really comes with experience, and the car has not been around for that long.

Black SS/SC 06 Apr 12, 2010 03:19 PM

This is not what I expected to read when I clicked on this thread :lol:

John Lake Apr 12, 2010 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06 (Post 4836600)
This is not what I expected to read when I clicked on this thread :lol:

I just added clarification to the opening post. Tried to think of a title that would peak some interest... :)

jimbos'ss Apr 12, 2010 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by ralliartist (Post 4836576)
think DSMtuners.com and DSMtalk.com

cobaltss.net is far from over. I doubt it will ever grow into what the dsm forums are, but it'll still be a unique and very large site. Over the next few years, you will see some really fast cobalts start to come out of their woodsheds and get some attention.

there allready around, just not much is posted about them...........might have to do with the overall maturity level of this forum to date.

Phyrric Apr 12, 2010 03:40 PM

Haha I was gonna say, I used to own a tiburon and the forums barely died when the genesis came out, i think we lost 3 people haha, just cause a car isn't made anymore doesnt mean every company that makes parts for them is gonna stop

ralliartist Apr 12, 2010 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by jimbos'ss (Post 4836649)
there allready around, just not much is posted about them...........might have to do with the overall maturity level of this forum to date.

I know, that's why I said in the near future they'll be coming out from their woodsheds. Hopefully mine will be one.

jmz250 Apr 12, 2010 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by John Lake (Post 4836475)
Such is life.. The Cobalt replaced the Cavalier in 2005 and has been associated with that car ever since - even though - the cars shared almost nothing.

They shared a lot. Mainly the motor. The last couple years of Cavalier had the 2.2L Ecotec, same as the Cobalt.

Nighthawk243 Apr 12, 2010 06:57 PM

The Cobalt was a high selling car. So the death of the current Delta platform isn't going to mean the death of CobaltSS.net or other related sites. So far, the only thing right now that seems to be killing CSS is just the server screwups.

But anyways, just because a car goes out of production doesn't mean the forums just all of a sudden dry up. Grand Am Owner's Club is still up and thriving despite the Grand Am being discontinued since 2005.

YzRider452 Apr 12, 2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by jmz250 (Post 4837087)
They shared a lot. Mainly the motor. The last couple years of Cavalier had the 2.2L Ecotec, same as the Cobalt.

Hes saying the SS shares almost nothing with the cavalier.

SilverSS_TNR Apr 12, 2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by ralliartist (Post 4836576)
think DSMtuners.com and DSMtalk.com

cobaltss.net is far from over. I doubt it will ever grow into what the dsm forums are, but it'll still be a unique and very large site. Over the next few years, you will see some really fast cobalts start to come out of their woodsheds and get some attention.

of course it will never bee as large as any DSM forum, i mean face it, those cars brake down every mile that all the owners need to be on the site 24/7 :lol:

Black SS/SC 06 Apr 13, 2010 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by John Lake (Post 4836638)
I just added clarification to the opening post. Tried to think of a title that would peak some interest... :)

I thought you had some kind of internet website doomsday machine :lol:

Jmarie619 Apr 13, 2010 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06 (Post 4836600)
This is not what I expected to read when I clicked on this thread :lol:

same here.. i as thinking it was going to like that one thread that had all those pictures about how much .net sucked.

JapEatr Apr 13, 2010 04:49 PM

i just hope the aftermarket continues the strength it has now

John Lake Apr 14, 2010 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by jmz250 (Post 4837087)
They shared a lot. Mainly the motor. The last couple years of Cavalier had the 2.2L Ecotec, same as the Cobalt.

I'm not sure what % the Two cars shared - but - The Cobalt was based on an entirely different platform that gives it a solid feel the Cavalier couldn't come close to... and per reviews, Cobalt was the better car in almost every way... which could only mean that the % was not that high.



"The new car is based on an entirely different platform, GM's global "Delta" architecture."

"The fastback coupe bears a resemblance to the Cavalier it replaced in 2005, right down to its high, rounded tail and triangular rear quarter windows; though in fact Cobalt shares little with its predecessor but its looks"
More early good reviews...

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...erpoint_page_2

http://www.epinions.com/review/pr-Ca...t_165871652484

http://autos.aol.com/cars-Chevrolet-...expert-review/

PANIK Apr 14, 2010 08:48 AM

when my car is paid off im buying a truck and garaging my damn car to build it out of the winter so it will never rust.....hopefully i can buy a truck before it starts rusting up :(

cmatthewb101 Apr 14, 2010 08:49 AM

I will never get rid of my Balt! Mainly cause I'll lose like 9k. :lol: I plan on keeping it till the wheels fall out.

John Lake Apr 14, 2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Black SS/SC 06 (Post 4840115)
I thought you had some kind of internet website doomsday machine :lol:

:lol: now that would be cool... I'll take 2 new Cobalt SS Turbo's.. delivered to this location.. or else! :)


Glad some people saw some humor... Title was just going to be The "END of the COBALT" - BUT - figured the one I chose would get attention..

In the opening of the OP I basically said that the site is going no where.. (then added to that) but.. per some posts.. it looks like people didn't read the post and are just reading the title. Too bad - It's actualy not a bad post... in my biased opinion of course... Cobalt gets a bad rap from some - BUT - the overall run was actually impessive.


Originally Posted by PANIK (Post 4842423)
when my car is paid off im buying a truck and garaging my damn car to build it out of the winter so it will never rust.....hopefully i can buy a truck before it starts rusting up :(

Kinda the same here... never had a car I planned on keeping long term. That's the plan - at least for now. Pay it off - then - get something else and only drive her in nice weather. I wish I could afford two cars now. People do that type of thing with classics.. expensive cars.. and some may think it nuts to do with a Cobalt.. just shows how much I love this car.

CudaJoe Apr 14, 2010 09:09 AM

I need to move closer to work so I can stop putting so many miles on one of the few yellow SS sedans :/

lol. Im at 26000 miles now.

JapEatr Apr 14, 2010 09:21 AM

mine is paid off and starting the serious mods

i will have this car until it dies, i like my cobalt!

Permafried- Apr 14, 2010 09:22 AM

Lately I have been seeing far more SS/SCs being picked up used (typically lease returns) and showing up at our meets. As original owners sell them and others pick them up used you'll see a whole new group of people come rolling through for years to come. The only thing that scares the hell out of me, some of the SS/SCs are going so cheap around here a 16 year old could afford it themselves as their first car...that spells trouble :lol:

cmatthewb101 Apr 14, 2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Permafried- (Post 4842493)
Lately I have been seeing far more SS/SCs being picked up used (typically lease returns) and showing up at our meets. As original owners sell them and others pick them up used you'll see a whole new group of people come rolling through for years to come. The only thing that scares the hell out of me, some of the SS/SCs are going so cheap around here a 16 year old could afford it themselves as their first car...that spells trouble :lol:

Poor SS/SC's The totaled number of SS's will skyrocket. :lol: I can't talk much, im 21. But I have a good job, finished with school, and Ive had mine for over a year. And I'm a good driver, and don't do stupid shit in my car, anymore.


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