Exactly which car will win?

 

ok, i give up...win what??

 

a fight to the death

 

RSX will have the upper hand. I hate to say that.

 

Normal RSX or a Type-S?

 

I must ask - how do you figure?? He's talking about the base RSX, not the Type-S.

The Cobalt SS 2.4 is going to have 172HP and 170ft/lbs, mated to a 5-speed manual. The RSX has 160HP and 141ft/lbs, also mated to a 5-speed manual.

So not only will a Cobalt 2.4 easily destroy an RSX off the line, but with the extra HP and torque, it will continue to pull on it throughout the race.

Winner: Cobalt SS 2.4 5-speed

 

good call. torq is a big part in it. go cobalt!

 

my friend has an RSX Type-S and we went at it from 60-100 and i pulled on him easily.

 

I know that, the RSX weighs almost 400-500lbs less then the Cobalt and although the 2.4L SS will have slightly more power it doesn't make up for the fact that it's heavier. It will come down to a drivers race more then anything. and BOTH have 5 speeds. So stick against stick unless he has an automanual

Trust me, I want the SS to win but I don't think your taking some advantages the RSX has over the SS like more then likely top speed past 100. VTec's can be very dangerous to race against sometimes.

In case you didn't notice the SS/SC seems to fall flat on it's face after 100(at least some people think this, I don't) so imagine what the 2.4L just might do.

My opinon won't change. It's a drivers race. Both cars will run more then likely a mid 15. The Cobalt has a traction advantage out of the hole but from a roll the RSX will.

 

Where did you get that figure? According to Acura.ca and GMCanada.com, the RSX weighs 2700lbs while the Cobalt LS coupe weighs 2824 (used since we don't know the exact weight of the SS), only a 124lb difference.

 

At least for us SS/SC guys we should all be worring about Mustangs, Camaros and Firebirds not VTEC.

I use my 93 Z24 for those things.

 

the RSX reminds me of a whiny 5 year old.... lol

I really dont like high reving Hondas, I'm not a big fan at all

I espically think that the RSX is over rated, acura should dump it and leave the budget cars to honda

 

I found similar specs - sorry Sneaky, I think you got your numbers wrong man

As I said before, the SS 2.4 should destroy the RSX in a race

 

RSX is overpriced. A type s is 24k right? You can get a GT mustang for less than a 1000 dollars, and have a gain of 90 HP and a 178 Tq diffrence.

I kinda wanted to see how it wil do against both RSXs. Besides wont the Cobalt be underrated anway?

 

the rsx is a 13 to 1 weight to power ratio, and the cobalt is 13 as well my freind i figured this out the other day, along with the wrx, and a couple other cars. Its not just weight guys its power to weight. So a cobalt will smoke an rsx from a roll, or from the line it doesnt matter. If you get a type s that is different.

 

There is alot more to winning than power to weight ratio.

The RSX has no torque. Anyway you slice it the 2.4 SS will eat up pretty much all N/A imports.

 

http://www.modernracer.com/acurarsx.html

2004-2005 Acura RSX

Top speed : 124 mph
0-60 mph : 7.7 sec.
0-ź mile : 15.8 sec @ 88.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 140 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.82 g

Curb Weight : 2694 lbs
Overall length : 172.4 in.
Wheelbase : 101.2 in.
Overall Width : 67.9 in.
Height : 54.9-55.1 in.

2004-2005 RSX Type-S

Top speed : 145 mph
0-60 mph : 6.7 sec.('02-'04), 6.5 sec.('05)
0-ź mile : 15.2 sec @ 92.7 mph('02-'04)
60-0 braking distance : 135 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.86 g

Curb Weight : 2769-2840 lbs
Overall length : 172.4 in.
Wheelbase : 101.2 in.
Overall Width : 67.9 in.
Height : 54.9-55.1 in.

Direct from Chevy's website

Cobalt SS/SC 2991lbs Gross Weight
Cobalt Coupe 2991lbs Gross Weight (shave off maybe 60lbs w/supercharger off and unneeded accessories. Still weighs over 2900lbs.

Modern Racer's Gross weight figures are only off by less than 0>50lbs.

Do the math we are still talking about 300-400 lbs. 100lbs = .1 of a second in quarter mile.

I am going to take a wild guess and say the SS Coupe will run only a mid 15 at best. Same times in line with the RSX (Non-S type)

 

Shipping weight for a 2005 Cobalt SS is listed at 2891

A 2005 Cobalt 4 door with the 2.2 can run low 16's in the 1/4. With a good driver a 2005 SS/SC is a high 13 to low 14 second car so one with about 50-60HP less will run in the 15's.

Look at F-Bodies 98-02 a LS1 with 350HP will see 13's all day long. The same car with a 200HP 3800 will run high 15's.

 

Modern Racer? I'd trust Acura or Car and Driver. Acura Canada says
2734lbs.


Even in Car and Drivers test of a LS 4 door auto and its weight was around 2850lbs.

And were talking coupes, which ae usually lighter.

Taken of gm canadas website: base= 2808 LS= coupe: 2824 SS Supercharged = 2806

So were not looking at a 300lb difference---maybe 150lbs or so. Not much of a difference at all. And then maybe the guy driving the RSX weighs mre then the Coblat driver has a full tank of gas ect......

The 2.4L SS should be able to easily beat the RSX. Not by a huge margin but comfortable one.

 

Does the SSs gross weight include options like the sunroof and G85?

 

I hjave the answer to all of this....

wait until the damn car is even out before we argue what it can do.

It may have more HP than chevy says the SS does

Also we have no idea how much it weighs... no way to guess either

just wait

 

I think we can safely assume that the weight will be somewhere around the weight of the current Cobalt coupe models. I can't see how it would be massively heavier or lighter than the ~2800lb range.

 

rsx type izzess will win. base model would probably lose.

 

That was a standard SS without the options

 

sorry but your wrong

Transmission, 4-speed automatic, electronically controlled with
overdrive, includes 3.63 axle ratio

That is the OPTION for the two SS non SC models

They come standard with...

Transmission, 5-speed manual, includes 3.91 axle ratio


hopefully that clears things up

edit::

BTW this is the SS S/C tranny
Transmission, 5-speed manual, includes 4.05 axle ratio and short
throw shifter