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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Summit gauge

I saw a thread about summits air/ fuel ratio gauge being just a light show.. But summit also makes an oxygen sensor and weld in bung.. Would installing this air/ fuel ratio gauge and sensor be like having an aem wideband but for alot less cash?

here are the links for the parts:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3&autoview=sku

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3&autoview=sku
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Hmmmm......
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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anybody?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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i have a narrow band for right now, and that is exactly all it is, a light show.. im sure for a good reading u need a wideband, i would go AEM imo.. somewhat cheap thats what im buying soon
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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wouldnt it be like a wideband though hooked up to the sensor?
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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no, that is a narrow band gauge.. u need a wideband gauge, which is a seperate thing entirely.. here is a link to the one i am going to buy shortly http://www.gravanatuning.com/applica...zel_White_Face
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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it soundslike it would work, but im not an expert, lol
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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No. The gauge will still just read Rich/Lean. The point of having a wideband AFR gauge is to know your EXACT air/fuel ratio. Therefore, you need a gauge that can display the exact ratio based upon the wideband O2 sensor output.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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even with the o2 sensor its not a wideband. widebands output is a 0-5volts i believe. That one is just 0-1v. If you order that sensor, your just replacing what came with the car, or adding in another o2 sensor thats not gonna do anything.


If your gonna tune, do it right, and spend the $250+ on a good wideband. If you don't, do not come back to this site and whine about how something blew up
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NGalaxyTimmyo
even with the o2 sensor its not a wideband. widebands output is a 0-5volts i believe. That one is just 0-1v. If you order that sensor, your just replacing what came with the car, or adding in another o2 sensor thats not gonna do anything.


If your gonna tune, do it right, and spend the $250+ on a good wideband. If you don't, do not come back to this site and whine about how something blew up
Great answer I just thought narrow bands wired into the wiring harness since theres a how to on it.. But this all makes perfect sense now.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NGalaxyTimmyo
even with the o2 sensor its not a wideband. widebands output is a 0-5volts i believe. That one is just 0-1v. If you order that sensor, your just replacing what came with the car, or adding in another o2 sensor thats not gonna do anything.


If your gonna tune, do it right, and spend the $250+ on a good wideband. If you don't, do not come back to this site and whine about how something blew up
How hard is it to install a wideband? Any links to a "good" wideband?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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it's pretty easy even without knowing what your doing. A lot of people just remove their second 02 sensor (it makes sure the cat is working correctly) and place it there. However, having the wideband sensor after the cat will affect it's reading, although not much. Take your downpipe to any shop, and have them weld a 02 bung into it. Somewhere around $30. Then all you have to do is connect the wire from the wideband sensor to the pod, and then attach the power wires, and your set.

This is for the AEM wideband 02 gauge. Other widebands I'm not 100% sure of, but it should be mostly the same.
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