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Old 03-11-2018, 12:03 PM   #1  
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Input on next step

Guys I wanted to get your input on my car. Currently it's fbo with upgraded suspension mods also. My plan had been to eventually build a gen 3 motor for it and have Jason build my spare trans, as I also had a nice truck as a daily. That changed some when my son passed as we traded the truck on the wife's Acadia and gave her car to my sons fiancé so her and our grandson had a good safe vehicle to drive. I'm going to try and get 2 years out of my sons car and then most likely get a ats awd.
I've already got a basically new 6758, wiseco Pistons, ZZP rods and a new ldk head setting in the garage. But in 2 years the Cobalt will be worth pennies, and it would be much better to drive it daily and keep the miles off the ats. The ats would probably get the stage kit from ZZP along with e85 conversion and intercooler package. The parts I have for the Cobalt would pretty much cover that cost if I didn't build the motor on the Balt. So I'm torn wanting to move on the Cobalt build verses saving money for the ats. Really don't want to build both, and the Cobalt wouldn't need a built motor if it was a daily in 2 years. If it got porus block then I would probably just throw a crate ldk in and Call it good.
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I would choose the most reliable car as a daily, but that isn't as much of a concern if you have two cars. You don't want to cars out of commission at the same time (I had that happen when my car had porous block). I'd also want the more comfortable car as a daily. So my choice would be daily ats and build the balt. The ats also drops plenty in value so I would care either way on that
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Yeah I would do the same as exninja said, the ats resale value is just as bad if not worse than the balt. I sometimes get caught up with the keep the miles low on cars but then I think why the hell did I buy it for and paying xxx for it to be seating in my garage(granted my weather isn't as bad as some of you with salt on roads). Just because a car has a ton of miles doesn't mean you still can't take care of it and have it looking like a low mile car. Unless your thinking of reselling in a few years then Thats a different story
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I was in your shoes, with my sedan. Actually kinda still in the position since I have my coupe also. My sedan was great DD and would last for many years to come. I had a lot of time and effort into my sedan but I just wanted something newer. I really like all the luxury things, heated seats, steering wheel, remote start, nav, apple car play, etc. I don't think I will be able to sell my coupe anytime soon knowing the struggle I went through with my sedan. I figure I might as well keep it for a while and let kids total more of them so they become more rare.

But for your position, my opinion would be to keep it and enjoy it a little longer. If you are bored with the power level now then I say build it. Plus you have most of the parts already. Then when the time comes get a nice luxury daily.
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Unless you're planning on keeping the Cobalt for 40 years don't worry about mileage.

The future "collectors" status is far far away.

I personally believe watching mileage on a DD is a waste of time. It's a car meant to be driven.

The Cobalt is closer to being a fun toy car than an ATS would be. It's really hard to compare the two.
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Good points. One of the issues is that I tend to be picky about keeping the "toy" or nice car, really clean. It would be hard for me to do that to both. You can get a couple year old 2dr ats for $25k or less. Just hard for me to justify making it the daily when the Cobalt will be worth $6k. Where I work takes a toll on the paint due to abrasive lime dust blowing around. The ats with the mods is a 12 second car based on it getting off the line real well with the awd. Luxury and performance, but not a lightweight car like the Cobalt.
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I daily my cobalt and would daily a ATS over it in heart beat. While the cobalt it is a damn good daily, the ride and road noise has to be much worse than the ATS.
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I bought my ATS with full intention of leaving it alone, keep it clean, and rack up the miles. This way I can commute reliably, in style, and still have a little bit of fun if I get the itch. They're a riot to drive right out of the box. I honestly don't have much of an itch to mod it because it is already so good.

If anything, the Cobalt's lack of value is a reason to go crazy with it. Having a newer, luxurious daily will take the stress away from the down time when you go through with the build.
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I have to agree with everyone else. Daily the ATS and mod the balt!
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Keep Cobalt as the daily. build/mod the ATS. You will enjoy the power out of an AWD/RWD platform as long as ZZP continues to support it.
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So far Kevin is the only one thinking along the same lines as me. As much as I tell myself I won't mess with the Ats, I know better. Just being able to get traction from a stop or 1st, or 2nd gear would be a thrill. I have fun in my Cobalt, but throwing a bigger turbo on it, like I would, will limit what it can do as I don't roll race. I would still leave all the handling stuff on it. And keep it fbo, but the 4.45 trans would come out. I will think on it some more. Thanks for the advice.
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If I was looking to get a ats I would be looking at the 3.6l TT rwd the awd is nice but the power zzp is getting with the v6 is great and will get you into or pass 12s np imo which I'm also looking at gettingv a more luxury car down the road sometime
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If I was looking to get a ats I would be looking at the 3.6l TT rwd the awd is nice but the power zzp is getting with the v6 is great and will get you into or pass 12s np imo which I'm also looking at gettingv a more luxury car down the road sometime
I like the 3.6 in our Acadia, problem is no one is making upgrade parts for them in the ats that I know of. Zzp's cars are all designed around the 2.0. I would want the awd in case I needed good traction in the winter.
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the way you have it, like Erics car, with the ko4+ its the perfect DD. even on pump gas.
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the way you have it, like Erics car, with the ko4+ its the perfect DD. even on pump gas.
Agreed, even more fun on e47.
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I like my zfr daily sedan lol
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I like the 3.6 in our Acadia, problem is no one is making upgrade parts for them in the ats that I know of. Zzp's cars are all designed around the 2.0. I would want the awd in case I needed good traction in the winter.
ya zzp made 600+ on only a few upgrades with the 3.6 but if you want winter driving why just get a awd beater like a old suby or something close to that and keep the luxury car out of bad conditions like salty roads
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An old subie would be nice as you say but I don't want that many cars, and I'm tired of maintaining the 4 we have now. If I was going to do that I would sell the Cobalt, and I don't really want to do that. I would probably only drive the ats 10-12 days in that anyway, and take it to the car wash religiously.
Soon we will be making a trip to chicago about every 2 weeks to see the grandkid. I would rather keep the miles off the suv, so I really need something comfortable to drive in. 6-7 hrs round trip.
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if you get a ATS as a fun car might as well get the 6speed RWD version. Why have stick as a DD and toy car auto?
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So far Kevin is the only one thinking along the same lines as me. As much as I tell myself I won't mess with the Ats, I know better. Just being able to get traction from a stop or 1st, or 2nd gear would be a thrill. I have fun in my Cobalt, but throwing a bigger turbo on it, like I would, will limit what it can do as I don't roll race. I would still leave all the handling stuff on it. And keep it fbo, but the 4.45 trans would come out. I will think on it some more. Thanks for the advice.
Don't you have slicks for the track?

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the way you have it, like Erics car, with the ko4+ its the perfect DD. even on pump gas.
But a ATS would be a much nicer DD from the comfort standpoint.
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Too bad they don't make the CTS V-Sport in AWD. Those have become extremely affordable for a '14 or '15 with average miles.
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Too bad they don't make the CTS V-Sport in AWD. Those have become extremely affordable for a '14 or '15 with average miles.
Yeah that would be badass
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But a ATS would be a much nicer DD from the comfort standpoint.
That's where I'm at. I don't any self respecting adult would choose to dd a Cobalt over a Cadillac. Even with good quality springs and shocks the ride is pretty trash due to is design.
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