Sh3itskees

Can someone please post up a moving image where DoF plays a factor? I'm having a hard time visualizing where DoF will come into play when there's only 1 object on the shot that's in focus.

DSmastery

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this was shot on manual



haha

Sh3itskees

But you would've gotten the same DoF on shutter priority...

ForsakenOutlaw57

Seriously, it's hard to go under f/8 and don't even get me started on going under f/5.6 - it's just well it takes some deep breathing exercises


60% of my film photos are f/8 or higher; 24% are f/5.6 and the rest is under f/5.6

MitchSS

My F1 stuff from texas. Much better shots than last year

DSmastery

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i didnt know how to help

Sh3itskees

Well I definitely appreciate your input .

deebsr6

I honestly couldnt think of one unless the actual whole car wasnt in focus due to an extremely shallow dof


so you like a large dof? im all about that shallow dof with some creamy bokah to really make the subject pop unless its landscape of course.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deebsr6/8091227350/http://www.flickr.com/photos/deebsr6/8091227350/]RPF1[/url, on Flickr

DSmastery

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love that pic, didnt enkei post it on their facebook too

deebsr6

thanks man and yeah i posted it on their wall and then they reposted it

IonNinja

if you were set to shutter priority that would've been magazine quality

ForsakenOutlaw57

See deebs, I'm a fool. I want to take a photo with everything in focus that is in focus in my eye - fully aware that the human eye's aperture cannot get much past f/8. I'm also fully aware that no camera can match what the human brain can assemble - hence the fool part.

Now that rim with the lights in the background, that I would have shot very low because I would not have wanted the distraction of the tree. I would have been around f/2.8 maybe if I could get that low. I would have liked the Enkel to be more in focus though.






This I shot at f/11 because there's so much. Even though I was a considerable distance away and shooting at infinity (I was probably 200+ meters away) I would not have gone down to f/5.6 on it even though that would have been okay. In fact, I believe I tried to shoot this at f/16 or f/22 but the photo didn't develop because I fouled up the roll's advance.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/81295124@N07/10023800145/, on Flickr

This was f/5.6 and I recognize I could have gone lower to f/3.5 even and still had enough detail but maybe not even for me. That one worked out but this one below did not. I shot it at f/8 and while everything about her is perfect and this makes for an amazing photo, the yellow cab in the background is distracting. This should have been below f/5.6

http://www.flickr.com/photos/81295124@N07/8330762359/, on Flickr

DSmastery

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haha that whole day i was shooting random cars on the freeway, trying different settings

ill try S mode so i can win next time

sergiochaotik

Yeah the rpf1 is slightly missed focus. I know you know this but it all depends what you're zoomed out to as well.. like I can take a picture with a 300 2.8 at f/5.6 and the backdrop will be more compressed than a 50mm at 2.8.

ForsakenOutlaw57

Oh yeah zoom's it's own animal. Plus once you're over something like 400 meters most of it is in focus due to compression so f/5.6 and f/8 aren't much different. - IIRC.

Next air show I do - if our stupid government doesn't **** can then - I'm thinking of renting like a 400mm with like f/4 or f/3.5 whatever they make or something and shooting high high speed and wide open aperture.

deebsr6

I understand what you mean its all preference. The shot of the rim was actually taken about 10 minutes before I had to leave for class with the rim actually being held up by my hamper and the lights in the back are wrapped around my sti wing hanging on my wall. while i layed down with my fixed 50 trying to squeeze as much in as i could. dont have a very big room. It was for a intro to photography class i had to take as a gen ed credit. this project was to show we knew how to control aperture.

yeah most of my shooting is currently done at wide angles due to the locations of the shoots. my primary carry lens is a 30mm on a cropped sensor body

ForsakenOutlaw57

Yeah that makes sense deebs.

MitchSS

I'd suggest the Nikon 80-400 if you want to shoot an airshow. I took those F1 photos with one last month and its big but not too big to hand hold for a good bit of the day. The 200-400 constant F4 that you're talking about is this monster in the photo. I had one last year and for one day this year. Its definitely too big to use on objects that are moving quicly overhead, even with a monopod. For scale here it is next to one of my 70-300s

ForsakenOutlaw57

Feeeecccckkkk... Yeah I'd have my monopod but I think I'll need a monopod affixed to a Ford Ranger to pull this off...

Sh3itskees

Holy ****! What did you shoot with a lens that big?

ForsakenOutlaw57

The pimples on an astronaut's face.

sergiochaotik

**** it. 400 2.8
work dem guns.

sergiochaotik

Most of these pansies have 400 2.8s and they're all monopod-ing it and being weak. Look how small it is.

MitchSS

Its definitely the way to go when you're at an F1 race. I'll probably never acquire a media pass to one so a lens like that is the next best thing. You can hand hold one of those for a few minutes but it gets tiring quick. I wouldnt even consider taking one to an airshow and trying to raise it above your head.
The 80-400 works great if you just want the range and carrying ability but dont care so much about DoF.

Sh3itskees

How hard is it to get a press pass to an event like that? You take some pretty good pics... What does it take to get a press pass?