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Every spark plug question Answered
Heres all the information from Graham @ NX and Brandon with NGK..
NGK aside from being the plugs I use personally are the OEM distributor for plugs on these cars. Supercharged cars First SC - The factory plug on 04-05 redlines and 05 cobaltss cars is the PFR6T-10G. They changed that to a IFR6V-10G which is the same plug but a iridium platinum plug. They now have the BKR series which are a V-power plug which is what is recommended for stock and modded applications. For a stock car the plug would be a BKR6E which is simply a v-power plug at a 6 heat range which is stock. This would be the plug for stock or non-pullied non nitrous setups bolt on application setups. Now if you do increase psi or use small nitrous shots you will want to take a step colder plug and use a BKR7E. Now if you have increased the boost and are wanting to spray a decent size hit you can to a 8 heat range plug BKR8E. Now on any of these plugs if you would like to go iridium vs the nickle you can add the prefix EIX. These are a more expensive plug but will last longer and have a little more performance. The BKR8EIX should have no idle issue that you sometimes have with colder plugs. When you get to the 9 heat range the BKR9EIX ( only have these in Iridium ) Their might be some idle issue's that need to be addressed in the tune. I would recommend plug gaps at .45-.40 for near stock applications, .40 for increased boost, and .35-.30 for nitrous users. Cliff notes - Stock/mild mods - BKR6E Mild mods/Pulley and small nitrous - BKR7E Mods/pulley and large nitrous - BKR8EIX Mods/ Very small pulley or very large nitrous shot - BKR9EIX ( only have these in Iridium ) TC - The OEM plug is a ILTR5D. This is a 5 heat range plug. This came from the factory with a stage hotter than supercharged cars. This is also a iridium platinum plug. If you would like to increase psi or use nitrous you can go to a LTR6AIX-11. This is a 6 heat range plug that also has a tapered cut ground and is a more performance oriented plug. This plug comes gapped at .44 so if you run these plugs re gap them at .35 for turbo only or .30 for use with nitrous. If you are going to run a larger nitrous hit then you can a step colder with LTR7AIX-11. This is a 7 heat range plug with the same changes as its 6 heat range equivalent and will need to be re-gapped accordingly. Cliff notes - Stock/mild mods - ILTR5D Mild mods/psi increase with small nitrous - LTR6IX-11 gapped at .40/.32 with nitrous Mods/More psi or Large nitrous hit - LTR7IX-11 gapped at .40/.32 with nitrous |
Great write up bro for the unknolegeable. great 10 thumbs up lol out of 10 100%
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well written :twothumbs
so ur sayin since im on the 2.5 pulley on the TVS and plan on runnin a 50 shot with 25psi i should have the BKR9EIX? :lol: |
good write up man. thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
(Post 5128382)
Great write up bro for the unknolegeable. great 10 thumbs up lol out of 10 100%
Originally Posted by 06_SIC_SS
(Post 5128385)
well written :twothumbs
so ur sayin since im on the 2.5 pulley on the TVS and plan on runnin a 50 shot with 25psi i should have the BKR9EIX? :lol:
Originally Posted by mccullj
(Post 5128395)
good write up man. thanks for the info
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Nice write up!!!!! now you just need to put in the spark plug gaps to cover the other question that gets asked a million times
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Originally Posted by icemaid
(Post 5128438)
Nice write up!!!!! now you just need to put in the spark plug gaps to cover the other question that gets asked a million times
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Graham nice post! The only thing needed to change is that when you get to the '8' heat range for supercharged cars the part number will actually be NGK BKR8EIX instead of
BKR8E (which we don't make). The coldest nickel plug is the BKR7E and after that we make BKR8EIX and BKR9EIX also for the turbo engine the colder plug numbers are LTR6IX-11 and LTR7IX-11 Other than that it all looks good. :cool: Oh and BTW it's Brandon, not Brad ;) |
Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
(Post 5128372)
The OEM plug is a ILTR5D. This is a 5 heat range plug. This came from the factory with a stage hotter than supercharged cars. This is also a iridium platinum plug. If you would like to increase psi or use nitrous you can go to a LTR6AIX-11. This is a 6 heat range plug that also has a tapered cut ground and is a more performance oriented plug. This plug comes gapped at .44 so if you run these plugs re gap them at .35 for turbo only or .30 for use with nitrous. If you are going to run a larger nitrous hit then you can a step colder with LTR7AIX-11. This is a 7 heat range plug with the same changes as its 6 heat range equivalent and will need to be re-gapped accordingly.
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Thanks for the help man! thats awesome my first name is brandon. Football player and so always been Graham.
Btw guys NGK has the best customer support of any company I have ever dealt with. Brandon (NGKTECH) actually had a bolt on redline and help me with all this information. Cant ask for better than that. Who comes to the forum to proof read for their company? Brandon @ NGK |
Originally Posted by rnjmur
(Post 5128488)
So, is it LTR6AIX-11 or LTR6IX-11? I can't find LTR6AIX-11 anywhere.
http://ngk.com/results_cross.asp?pid=ltr6ix-11 http://ngk.com/results_cross.asp?pid=ltr7ix-11 |
Thanks for double checking. Lots of part numbers over the phone.
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My fault. I think I accidently threw the 'A' in there when I gave you the part numbers over the phone.
Also, here is a link to the Redline Forums on spark plugs that some may find helpful, my SN on that ste is saturnterminator http://www.******************/forums...erences-8.html |
Originally Posted by NGKTECH
(Post 5128463)
Graham nice post! The only thing needed to change is that when you get to the '8' heat range for supercharged cars the part number will actually be NGK BKR8EIX instead of
BKR8E (which we don't make). The coldest nickel plug is the BKR7E and after that we make BKR8EIX and BKR9EIX also for the turbo engine the colder plug numbers are LTR6IX-11 and LTR7IX-11 Other than that it all looks good. :cool: Oh and BTW it's Brandon, not Brad ;) |
Awesome Information!
This thread should be a sticky! |
Originally Posted by leviticus88
(Post 5128775)
Awesome Information!
This thread should be a sticky! |
Ill see what the moderator thinks about Stickying the OP and leaving this thread open for discussion. That work for you guys?
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Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
(Post 5128801)
Ill see what the moderator thinks about Stickying the OP and leaving this thread open for discussion. That work for you guys?
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Nice write up. What do you consider a large shot?
Like plugs for a 2.8/75 shot? |
Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
(Post 5128766)
Since you're here, I figured i'd ask. What do you offer that would work in place of a BKR8E? I was running some plugs that were spec'd for a supra I believe, I could get 8's, 9's, all the way to 11's, in a copper plug. Since I was changing them out ever oil change anyway, I didn't see the point of throwing away iridiums. I'm also not a big fan of the super-small electrode when using nitrous.
i planned on runnin a 50 to 75 shot on my tvs thats pushin in the neighborhood of 25 psi.. the iridiums the best for this? |
Thats great thanks for you time to write this.
I do have one question... Does running E85 have any effect to what step colder plug to use? Or the basics stay the same. Thanks, |
Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
(Post 5128766)
Since you're here, I figured i'd ask. What do you offer that would work in place of a BKR8E? I was running some plugs that were spec'd for a supra I believe, I could get 8's, 9's, all the way to 11's, in a copper plug. Since I was changing them out ever oil change anyway, I didn't see the point of throwing away iridiums. I'm also not a big fan of the super-small electrode when using nitrous.
NGK sells a couple V-power race plug series that are available in heat ranges from 8 through 11 for the LSJ supercharged engines only The only potential problem with these plugs (and the reason we usually don't recommend them) is that they are a non-resistor spark plug and on some fuel injected applications could cause electromagnetic interference (EMI) with the cars onboard computers, especially while tuning the problems seem to be most prevalent such as no connectivity to the laptop when using HP tuners or random misfires. The non-resistor plug can even cause radio frequency interference (RFI) where you may get static on the radio, this is usually worst on AM stations. As long as you know this upfront and know what the symptoms are then you could give them a try to see if they work. The part numbers are as follows: Non projected tip (better for nitrous use or high boost (30psi or so)) R5671A-8 R5671A-9 R5671A-10 R5671A-11 Projected tip (no nitrous just boost) R5672A-8 R5672A-9 R5672A-10 As you can see there are many different plug options and differences in setups that people will run so if you have any questions at all just give a call to NGK's tech line at 248-926-6315 and I can help you select the right plug for your application. |
This Thread=Win
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Good response guys. Thanks for all the good words.
Any time you guys have plug questions Brandon is the guy to talk with. I know who im calling when i need them. |
Originally Posted by Nitrousexpress
(Post 5128372)
Heres all the information from Graham @ NX and Brandon with NGK..
This is also a iridium platinum plug. If you would like to increase psi or use nitrous you can go to a LTR6AIX-11. This is a 6 heat range plug that also has a tapered cut ground and is a more performance oriented plug. This plug comes gapped at .44 so if you run these plugs re gap them at .35 for turbo only or .30 for use with nitrous. Cliff notes - Stock/mild mods - ILTR5D Mild mods/psi increase with small nitrous - LTR6IX-11 gapped at .40/.32 How do these differ from the 3787 *Laser Long Life* (Pre gapped at .032)?. Looks like these are PLATINUM TIPPED. Any advantage to that? 3787: http://ngk.com/results_cross.asp?pid=3787&x=26&y=16 6509 (LTR6IX-11) (Pre Gapped .043): http://ngk.com/results_cross.asp?pid=6509&x=63&y=15 |
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