Anyone down for Test and Tune this coming Wednesday? For those of you who don't know, it's $20 to race and $10 to watch. I'll be there and maybe firemanfrank if he doesn't chicken out due to the weather. And, for those of you who have never been to LVD:





Lebanon Valley Dragway
1746 US Route 20
West Lebanon, NY 12195

1/4 Mile Asphalt Dragstrip
400' Concrete Pad
Elevation = 603'
2600' shut down area

http://www.dragway.com/index.html

 

To the top.

 

if I wasn't working I'd be there. why can't you do this **** wen I have off lol

 

Call in sick, lol. Come on dude it's worth it! Track day ftw.

 

I'll see what I can do, Need to put the hitch on the Jeep this weekend hopefully. Not driving the car to the track anymore

 

Do it! There is about 3 or 4 other balts that I know of that will be there as well. It will be a good time. I'm going to get there around 5 as soon as they open and get a **** ton of runs in.

 

Yea I should be there as well along with a couple of other SS/SC balts.

 

i'm guna be there

 

*WARNING TO ANYONE RACING THEIR NEW 'BALT AT LVD WHO COMES FROM UPSTATE NY AREA*

I just got back from the dealer for some minor warranty work, and I was talking to the Service Rep about warranties, after market parts, etc.

He related to me this story (I'm just including the important stuff, but he had given me the details):

A short while back, someone came in with a fairly new SC complaining of problems with his clutch.

As he was explaining his issue to the Service Rep, one of the dealer's mechanics walked in and said to the person "Heh, I recently saw you at Lebanon Valley Dragway racing your car".

Guy responded "Uhhh, Ummm, well ....". The warranty work for his clutch was immediately voided, and the kid had to pay in full to have it fixed.

This mechanic frequents the Valley, so you'll never know when he's there.

One thing for sure, I know I won't be there ...

 

That sucks...

...just like those Stg 2 #'s.

 

shitty i still might go, and just watch

 

That Stinks. I wonder who it was. I guess I will camo out my SS/SC so they wont recognize it. LOL. I highly doubt they will recoznize all the cobalts that are there. I would just say I did not bring my car there and they would have to have some proof that I was there anyway.

 

OK.. unless there is picture evidence of your license plates and you in the car and what not then they can't void any type of warranty. Period. That's just like saying you saw the service manager ******* your wife and he should give you a free car because of it. No proof. And even if the tech claims he saw it, which is B.S. to begin with, just take it to another friggin dealer if they are going to be douchebags about it. This isn't rocket science here. That's just like them saying your injen intake is the cause of your rear shock blowing prematurely. They better prove damn well that the intake caused the failure, otherwise I would not leave that dealership until my car was fixed. There is laws on this, the only problem is the average joe is too stupid to get technical with them and instead they just bend over and accept it from the dealer. I don't know about you guys, but I for one do not tolerate any of that ****.

Anyway, looks like there is going to be a pretty good turnout. Let's just hope the weather stays nice.

 

Wow, Lebanon Valley! I raced there some 15 years ago...beautiful country.

I have to pop the BS flag on this one, lol...I'm sure you heard this story, but I doubt it's real. If it is, the poor sap who got denied really got took.

Fact is, there is nothing in the warranty language that says you cannot run your car from a standing stop to the top speed it can achieve in 1320 feet. That is within the reasonable usage of the car. Now, actual competition use, that's different, but Test and Tune? Not a chance. Don't believe it, guys and gals...and stand firm if a dealer tries to strongarm you.

 

That's so lame. What is this guy going to be there with the media taking images and video of every single automobile that runs down the track? And then get plates, registration, etc. on it? Give me a break.

Exactly. It's all bullshit and I wouldn't let some nonsense story told by a service writer who probably doesn't even know what he is talking about influence my decision to run at the track. I'm sick and tired of dealerships ******* people around all the time. It has to stop.

 

i might be there...what time does everything start at?

 

5PM I believe.

 

Yeah it is 5pm. I was there last week and it was fun.

 

I'll be there at 5pm sharp.

 

Your reasoning (though no doubt well intended) is incorrect on several points.

First off, no pic whatsoever is necessary. Think about it. In a Court of Law, eyewitness testimony is accepted if the witness is deemed worthy of belief. And in this case, it obviously was.

Second, if you take it to another dealer, two problems arise. #1) The dealer isn't stupid. He may call around and put the warning out (after all, they've got your Name, Plate #, VIN #, etc. #2) Trying to get an extremely costly repair fixed at a dealer that you've never been to before raises many Red flags.

Third, comparing a CAI to blown shock is not what we're talking about here. What we're talking about here is being witnessed drag racing and then attempting to have a failed part in that car repaired under warranty. A part which easily can be understood as one that is overly stressed under the rigors of drag racing. That's what we're talking about.

Fourth, if you try to go to Court and present the case of a clutch in a new car that's shot, and the defendants ("the dealer") claims to have an eyewitness that you were racing, then you are going to lose. Remember all that paperwork that has to be signed/dated before racing? Those documents will become the proverbial nail in your case's coffin.

I understand that you're irate at dealers in general because of the damage that was done to your vehicle while it was waiting to be serviced there.

But don't let you emotions cloud your thinking ...

 

Then you take your owners manual to court and show them that your car has a Competitive mode and is "made for the track"...


...then say, "void that bitches".

 

What really sucks is how our Military is not able to straighten out the childish/immature attitudes of all those who are in her ranks.

 

If you break your car at the track and bring it in for warranty work, isn't that similar to fraud? Ex, you launch your car and snap an axle. I'd pay out of pocket for something like that because it technically is the operator's fault, not the manufacturer. I was talking about other things not related to racing the car. Even so, the dealer should not void the warranty because they claim they have saw you at the track. Total b.s.

 

Haha... sure. Whatever you say. You know me so well.

And those numbers still suck.

And they are just that, useless numbers. But posting up your dyno numbers could get your warranty voided... you might wanna take them down.

 

I can't believe that you are a vendor but have so little knowledge about vehicle warranties?

Racing of any type (Test/Tune is still racing, that much is obvious) is completely prohibited by the Manufacturers Warranty for ANY car.

Anyone who knows anything about vehilces is aware of that ...