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06 pursuit gt sedan from fe3 to 08+ fe5 Struts, which link's to use?
Got a Question here... i just changed out the old FE3 struts on the front end the other week on my 2006 pursuit gt sedan and i am still getting knocking and clunking an snaps here and there.. trying to figure out right now if the steering rack is bad or... thinking for now its just the links, my question is though i am still using the links from fe3 struts i took off, i am starting to think maybe i need fe5 links maybe like MOOG K750012's is this what i need for sure at least if i am using fe3 links still on my brand new 2008+ FE5 Struts? thanks in advance.
Got a Question here... i just changed out the old FE3 struts on the front end the other week on my 2006 pursuit gt sedan and i am still getting knocking and clunking an snaps here and there.. trying to figure out right now if the steering rack is bad or... thinking for now its just the links, my question is though i am still using the links from fe3 struts i took off, i am starting to think maybe i need fe5 links maybe like MOOG K750012's is this what i need for sure at least if i am using fe3 links still on my brand new 2008+ FE5 Struts? thanks in advance.
Iirc the end links mount up in the same location on all the strut towers and it is only when you change to FE5 sway bar that you need the FE5 end links.
Still bit confused as to which endlink i should and or need to get still... i see on rockauto.com a few for my 06 that are listed as fe3 and fe5, i just installed FE5 08+ struts on my pursuit gt sedan.. can anyone explain my options etc so i can make the right choice when ordering endlinks in a couple days.. everything is FE3 on my pursuit gt sedan but the new 08+ FE5 Struts i just installed with Lowering springs the other month which are SSC Lowering spring's, Thank's in Advance Again.
You can it depends on the car really the sedan came for some reason with the longer links now that i swapped them over the coupe It's making noises like crazy. Granted I have lowering springs but the sedan had that set up and didn't give me any issues when I drove home
The different end links are for the different sway bars. For ALL Cobalt struts the end link mounting point is in exactly the same spot for FE1, FE3, and FE5. The end links don't care which strut/spring package you have. You only need to swap to FE5 end links if you swapped in an FE5 sway bar. So if you still have your FE3 sway bar than you will use the same FE3 end links you always have. Wish I took a side view to show it better but if you look at the sway bar ends you can see why they need different length end links. The mounting points on the FE5 bar (top) are extended up, closer to the strut housing mounting point, relative to the FE1 bar(bottom). FE5 end link (left) vs. FE1 end link (right)
The different end links are for the different sway bars. For ALL Cobalt struts the end link mounting point is in exactly the same spot for FE1, FE3, and FE5. The end links don't care which strut/spring package you have. You only need to swap to FE5 end links if you swapped in an FE5 sway bar. So if you still have your FE3 sway bar than you will use the same FE3 end links you always have. Wish I took a side view to show it better but if you look at the sway bar ends you can see why they need different length end links. The mounting points on the FE5 bar (top) are extended up, closer to the strut housing mounting point, relative to the FE1 bar(bottom). FE5 end link (left) vs. FE1 end link (right)
Soo these are listed on rockauto... under 2006 2.4L.. and below them is 2008 cobalt 2.0L t/c i see says all types of things they are saying and i dont get which one on there i should use with my 08 t/c lowered set-up on rest my 06.. fe3 Suspension platform guess its called. ?
one other thing i kinda am still wondering tonight my 06 insulators were good to use not buy brand new 08+ t/c ones? and i just bought 08 bellows and boots.. which believe was enough for the swap? Thanks.
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OrFront; Center To Center Length Is 11.80"; For Vehicles With FE3 Sport Suspension
2008 t/c and guess up to 2010 ?
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Front; 9.86" Centerline to Centerline; 9.86" Length
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Last edited by 06pursuitgtsedan; 11-09-2017 at 02:40 AM.
You didn't swap your sway bar did you? If not you still have an FE3 sway bar which takes an FE3 end link that, according to what you have posted, looks to be about 11.80" long center to center. Like I said if you put an FE1, FE3, and FE5 strut assemblies next to each other you would notice that the housings are identical and the end link mounting point is in the exact same spot. The difference between FE3 and FE5 end links is because of the difference in sway bars, not because it's lower or has a different strut housing configuration.
What's the insulator part you are talking about? I am not familiar.
You didn't swap your sway bar did you? If not you still have an FE3 sway bar which takes an FE3 end link that, according to what you have posted, looks to be about 11.80" long center to center. Like I said if you put an FE1, FE3, and FE5 strut assemblies next to each other you would notice that the housings are identical and the end link mounting point is in the exact same spot. The difference between FE3 and FE5 end links is because of the difference in sway bars, not because it's lower or has a different strut housing configuration.
What's the insulator part you are talking about? I am not familiar.
Even if he has the fe3 sway bar the shorter endlinks work. They are better for lowered cars. I still have the fe3 sway bar but I just put on the shorter links.
But shorter springs make the mounting point on the strut furtheraway from the sway bar, not closer. With shorter springs, which would require longer end links to maintain the same geometry, how does it make sense that a shorter end link would be more beneficial when it throws off the geometry even further from stock as it would rotate the sway bar even further counter clockwise from where it rests stock? That is why using a shorter end link on shorter springs doesn't make any sense to me.
Here is an image for visualization. Installed in this picture is FE5 strut with YYZ spring and FE1 end link and sway bar.
Soo this is turning out to be interesting, i am noticing tho that on rockauto most popular endlinks they sell for my car n the 08+ turbo are the 333mm ones.. what are those for... btw i am on 08+ FE5's not the 05-07's if makes any difference.. i still have no idea which link to really use though 11.80" guess are the ones my car is suppose to have from what ive read heard here i think lol.. what you guys think or know still Thanks.
Last edited by 06pursuitgtsedan; 11-09-2017 at 03:26 PM.
I'd be willing to hear out someone if they want to chime in and tell me why you would want shorter end links for a lowered car when lowering the car actually increases the distance between the strut mounting point and the tip of the sway bar. Otherwise I would use the end links that are designed for your sway bar which are the FE3 end links.
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Confusing hahah but also see...
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Front; w/ FE5 Hi-Perf / Handling Suspension L=250MM
gonna guess 250MM is for turbo 08+ FE5 Struts with 08 t/c stock Sway bar only ?
But also..
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Front; with 333.3 mm Overall Length; Except FE5 Suspension Package
whats the Except part all about exactly? lol.. man these sway bar links are confusing as hell lol...
Last edited by 06pursuitgtsedan; 11-09-2017 at 03:28 PM.
But shorter springs make the mounting point on the strut furtheraway from the sway bar, not closer.
The distance between the two mounting points on the sway bar end link does not change with lowering springs. The distance is changed between the upper strut tower and the lower bowl where the spring rest.
No matter what the sway bar can swivel up or down allowing it to be closer or farther away. From my experience shorter end links give a more stiff and better handling car in the turns.
Soo just use the fe3 11.80" length links i suppose.... ? i also want the best ride quality over potholes, pulling into driveways etc, since im on lowering springs, but gonna be doing i-shaft n stabilizer bar bushings... and hopefully she'll ride nice.
10-16-2017, 12:45 AM
06 pursuit gt sedan from fe3 to 08+ fe5 Struts, which link's to use?
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