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phatnackySS 10-29-2009 10:53 PM

build your own traction bars.
 
Want traction bars? Think 200+ bucks is too much? Well I did, so I set out on a quest to build my own. What I found is that most traction bars for the SS/redline are made up of components you can find at your everyday speed shop.

You don’t have the buy from the places I list , use Google to find other retailers that carry the same items, you may even have a shop near home that carries some of this stuff.I went with 2 piece mild Steel rod ends,summit chromemoly rod ends are available , but mild steel should be more than strong enough for the application.

1. 2 - 10-11” Threaded tube with LH and RH thread , aluminum $7.99 each or - steel $10.99 each
2. 2- 5/8-18 thread 5/8 hole spherical rod ends right hand thread $8.95 each or chromemoly $13.95 each
3. 2- 5/8-18 thread 5/8 hole spherical rod ends left hand thread $6.95 each or chromemoly $13.95each


All fallowing items should be available at local hardware store and shouldn’t cost more than $20-25 , or you can search and order all hardware online.
4. 2 - 4 1/2" x 5/8-11 grade 5 or better bolts (frame)
5. 2 - 3" x 5/8-11 grade 5 or better bolts (control arm)
6. 8 – 5/8 lock washers
7. 4 – - 5/8 aluminum tapered spacers or ˝” or 3/4“ straight spacers
8. 4 - 5/8-11 nylock nuts(nylon lock nuts)

If you add everything up it comes out to 80 to 90 bucks for a basic set up or $140 tops for super cool HARDCORE bars , and that’s factoring shipping.

Don’t get me wrong , retailers offer a good product , and it nice if you don’t want to do all the shopping around. Plus they offer there’s in different powder coated finishes. But if your cheap like me … this is the way to go.

So here’s all my ordered parts assembled.
Pretty simple. RH jam nut goes on RH rod end then RH rod into RH thread of your tube
And same for the LH. Also in the pic is miscellaneous grade 5 hardware.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PA240115.jpg

I’m not going to go into detail on the install. If you search Google, you may be able find a detailed how-to.

I’ll just say it involves drilling a 5/8ths hole in the center of your controle arms about 2 ˝ inches from the little nub. And the a pre-existing hole on the sub frame. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PA250116.jpg
My ˝” long spacer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PA250122.jpg
And what a nyloc nut looks like .
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PA250125.jpg

And the final install. You can see the spacer and the split lock washers used as adjustment shims. order of assembly is bolt-rod end –spacer-lock washer –lock washer-frame/control arm-nyloc nut. 3” bolt goes thru control arm , 4 ˝’ bolt goes thru hole in frame . Be sure to use a good metal to metal lube .like white lithium grease on the rod ends joints.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/Drawing3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/PA250128.jpg

trevor151 10-29-2009 10:57 PM

thats pretty sweet! nice write up

glen229 10-29-2009 10:59 PM

wash your hands! lol jk nice write up

BlueBolt66 10-29-2009 11:03 PM

This is great will be doing this

Beck 10-29-2009 11:09 PM

good stuff

BLAZIN07SS 10-29-2009 11:10 PM

pimp ass wedding band btw

yellow06cobaltss/sc 10-29-2009 11:15 PM

how do you like yours?

phatnackySS 10-29-2009 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS (Post 4415837)
pimp ass wedding band btw

Thank you ,its needs a polish. its titanium and carbon fiber.


Originally Posted by yellow06cobaltss/sc (Post 4415855)
how do you like yours?

So far so good, havent been to the track with them yet, but on the street theres no wheelhop just spins.

qwikredline 10-29-2009 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by phatnackySS (Post 4415951)
Thank you ,its needs a polish. its titanium and carbon fiber.


So far so good, havent been to the track with them yet, but on the street theres no wheelhop just spins.

Looks good. how much time did it take?

how much angularity do you get at the rod ends when in full compression or rebound?

phatnackySS 10-30-2009 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by qwikredline (Post 4415990)
Looks good. how much time did it take?

how much angularity do you get at the rod ends when in full compression or rebound?

didn't take much time , about 45 mins.
i need to look at the car again and measure full suspension travel.
the rods-ends allow for about 20 or so degrees ,which is about 6" of travel , but i noticed i had more travel on the down swing then on the up,so i may need to play with spacing , just for peace of mind. iv gone over some harsh bumps and hard sweeping corners and haven't had any issues as of yet.

freakta 10-30-2009 10:03 AM

subd for later

LoveMyREDLINE 10-31-2009 01:15 PM

If you have any questions regarding the traction bars feel free to ask me on behalf of my recently banned husband .

Black SS/SC 06 10-31-2009 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by lovemyredline (Post 4419026)
if you have any questions regarding the traction bars feel free to ask me on behalf of my recently banned husband .

lmao!

boltedbalt 10-31-2009 01:26 PM

would this be effective for a 2.2 for more power the ground after mods?

ei3dag3 10-31-2009 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by LoveMyREDLINE (Post 4419026)
If you have any questions regarding the traction bars feel free to ask me on behalf of my recently banned husband .

dammmnn
whatsup with everyone getting banned?
btw tell him good how to.
i'll probably look into doing this for my tc when i get it.
how much of a major change did this make?

JohnnySasakiMGS 10-31-2009 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by LoveMyREDLINE (Post 4419026)
If you have any questions regarding the traction bars feel free to ask me on behalf of my recently banned husband .

Where did you get that carbon fiber wedding band! I'll get married just so I can have one!

09blackonblack 10-31-2009 01:46 PM

he got banned for making a how to? lol did i miss something?

and yeah will this work on the 2.2 with the stamped steel LCA?

LoveMyREDLINE 10-31-2009 08:52 PM

"I'm not sure if they will work on the 2.2 cobalts as far as correct length and geometry goes ,but the idea does. The redline used stamped steel Lac's and there was a hole already there ,it just needed to be made bigger. the 2.2 cobalt may be the same . If the sub frames are the same or close to the same there should be a hole there to mount to. to find the right rod length measure from one hole to the other then subtract 3" and that should be the length you need.each rod end adds about 1.5" (center of rod end)to each side of the rod. and thats accounting for the rod end being threaded in half way.

The work great, they help eliminate wheel hop , but i still spin. so they help put power to the ground by getting rid of fear of wheelhop related damage lol.

ps. i got banned for making a joke in the lounge section redarding two venders...guess i'll be back in 2 weeks or somthing.

-PhatnackySS"







Originally Posted by JohnnySasakiMGS (Post 4419091)
Where did you get that carbon fiber wedding band! I'll get married just so I can have one!

I got him the wedding band from titanium-buzz.com. It comes with a warranty as well as a certificate of authenticity. I was so excited when I found it because what could be a better way of celebrating my husbands love for cars then putting a part of it in his band :) I don't recommend working on your car with it on like he does because we have found its needing a new clear coat or a good polish, but other than that its REALLY sturdy and good quality.

09blackonblack 11-01-2009 10:40 AM

ok thanks and yeah the 2.2 has the hole in the lca which i started to mention in my last post but wasnt sure if it was in the same spot.

TurboTommy 11-05-2009 04:03 PM

What size rods did you get....10" or 11"?

dunit121 11-05-2009 09:13 PM

awsome stuffs

LoveMyREDLINE 11-06-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTommy (Post 4432053)
What size rods did you get....10" or 11"?

i used a 10"
phatnackySS

TurboTommy 11-10-2009 08:42 AM

Do they make noise?

LoveMyREDLINE 11-12-2009 12:22 PM

Track tested as of now, went to the track , almost no wheel hop on the launch and just spin going into 2nd gear. no new best track times becasue my 60ft still sucks. Im thinking the hankook tires i have now suck or the track just want prepped very well. The wheel hop i feel now is very mild. slight rumble compared to the jack hammer sensation i felt before.



Originally Posted by TurboTommy (Post 4443600)
Do they make noise?

no noise so far .



PhatnackySS

boltedbalt 11-12-2009 01:43 PM

would doing this on a 2.2 be drilling the same spot and would the lenghts be the same?


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