An interesting read from Brembo.
11-30-2017, 01:08 PM
#1
An interesting read from Brembo.
As I am getting ready to Powder coat my Brembo's I read this.
http://www.brembo.com/en/company/new...alipers-brembo
I totally agree with applications statements. As a GM Corporate Trainer we were allowed to view the calibrations taking place in GM Dyno labs as they set the ABS program to a 13% skid factor. They found around 13% for most vehicles allowed the best stopping distance while still allowing steering control.
As I trained I discussed what happened to that algorithm when different brake pads were installed as well as much larger and heavier tires and wheels.
http://www.brembo.com/en/company/new...alipers-brembo
I totally agree with applications statements. As a GM Corporate Trainer we were allowed to view the calibrations taking place in GM Dyno labs as they set the ABS program to a 13% skid factor. They found around 13% for most vehicles allowed the best stopping distance while still allowing steering control.
As I trained I discussed what happened to that algorithm when different brake pads were installed as well as much larger and heavier tires and wheels.
11-30-2017, 02:56 PM
#7
Maybe its just me, but that whole article just seems like they're grasping for straws. They pioneered the big flashy caliper trend, and anyone who paints, powerdercoats, or sticks a simulator on their calipers is taking a piece of their pie.
Points 1 and 2 really have nothing to do with the finish of a caliper. It should be common sense not to put random calipers on a car, not knowing their history or if they are suitable for your vehicle.
Point 3 lost me at "you can't be certain". If you spray bomb your brakes, you can be pretty certain they will look like crap in a couple of months. If you take the time and pay to have them professionally coated and rebuilt, then you can expect much longer lasting results.
Point 4. Again, you get what you pay for.
Point 5 isn't even a real point lol.
The article linked in the article was quite informative. But that had nothing to do with refinishing.
Points 1 and 2 really have nothing to do with the finish of a caliper. It should be common sense not to put random calipers on a car, not knowing their history or if they are suitable for your vehicle.
Point 3 lost me at "you can't be certain". If you spray bomb your brakes, you can be pretty certain they will look like crap in a couple of months. If you take the time and pay to have them professionally coated and rebuilt, then you can expect much longer lasting results.
Point 4. Again, you get what you pay for.
Point 5 isn't even a real point lol.
The article linked in the article was quite informative. But that had nothing to do with refinishing.
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11-30-2017, 03:20 PM
#9
Maybe its just me, but that whole article just seems like they're grasping for straws. They pioneered the big flashy caliper trend, and anyone who paints, powerdercoats, or sticks a simulator on their calipers is taking a piece of their pie.
Points 1 and 2 really have nothing to do with the finish of a caliper. It should be common sense not to put random calipers on a car, not knowing their history or if they are suitable for your vehicle.
Point 3 lost me at "you can't be certain". If you spray bomb your brakes, you can be pretty certain they will look like crap in a couple of months. If you take the time and pay to have them professionally coated and rebuilt, then you can expect much longer lasting results.
Point 4. Again, you get what you pay for.
Point 5 isn't even a real point lol.
The article linked in the article was quite informative. But that had nothing to do with refinishing.
Points 1 and 2 really have nothing to do with the finish of a caliper. It should be common sense not to put random calipers on a car, not knowing their history or if they are suitable for your vehicle.
Point 3 lost me at "you can't be certain". If you spray bomb your brakes, you can be pretty certain they will look like crap in a couple of months. If you take the time and pay to have them professionally coated and rebuilt, then you can expect much longer lasting results.
Point 4. Again, you get what you pay for.
Point 5 isn't even a real point lol.
The article linked in the article was quite informative. But that had nothing to do with refinishing.
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11-30-2017, 04:31 PM
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I agree with AHelm and Exninja
Powell powdercoated Brembos and the fact that he did it and worked alongside GM Performance division to develop stage kits for these cars to me says its perfectly ok IF done by the same standards he had them done.
Powell powdercoated Brembos and the fact that he did it and worked alongside GM Performance division to develop stage kits for these cars to me says its perfectly ok IF done by the same standards he had them done.
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11-30-2017, 04:49 PM
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I "ghetto sprayed" my Brembos with high temp caliper paint. Still looked good 3 years later.
with that said. I want to get my current Brembo's powder coated but done right.
with that said. I want to get my current Brembo's powder coated but done right.
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11-30-2017, 06:17 PM
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Point 3 lost me at "you can't be certain". If you spray bomb your brakes, you can be pretty certain they will look like crap in a couple of months. If you take the time and pay to have them professionally coated and rebuilt, then you can expect much longer lasting results.
12-01-2017, 11:41 AM
#14
They almost assume powdercoaters are not even completely disassembling the Calipers.
I have one of my Brembo's disassembled and bead blasted. I'll post some pics of the process from used to rebuilt with a fresh coat of color. Their piston plating is crap... flaking off wherever there is contact to the pads. I rarely see OEM doing this.
Last edited by Henry3959; 12-01-2017 at 11:46 AM.
12-01-2017, 04:47 PM
#16
thats funny.
when i powder coat calipers i replace the seals and pistons. masking is problematic when for sand blasting so ill typically pop them apart, clean the fluid out, and then ill put the pistons back in with the outer seals, then blast and coat them that way. afterwords they get new pistons and seals.
when i powder coat calipers i replace the seals and pistons. masking is problematic when for sand blasting so ill typically pop them apart, clean the fluid out, and then ill put the pistons back in with the outer seals, then blast and coat them that way. afterwords they get new pistons and seals.
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12-03-2017, 08:21 PM
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thats funny.
when i powder coat calipers i replace the seals and pistons. masking is problematic when for sand blasting so ill typically pop them apart, clean the fluid out, and then ill put the pistons back in with the outer seals, then blast and coat them that way. afterwords they get new pistons and seals.
when i powder coat calipers i replace the seals and pistons. masking is problematic when for sand blasting so ill typically pop them apart, clean the fluid out, and then ill put the pistons back in with the outer seals, then blast and coat them that way. afterwords they get new pistons and seals.
A well known race shop in Canada. Brakes can see temps in excess of 500degrees F, 400 in the Powdercoat oven hasn't been shown to degrade seals or boots in their builds.
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