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Old 05-11-2013, 11:47 PM
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It should be dry. You didn't use an impact, did you?
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I haven't even taken the insert out of the carton yet. I noticed what appears to be fluid around the adjustment knob.

Maybe it's just from the assembly?

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Like just barely wet, or like a pool? Barely wet should be ok.
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
Night and day difference, even on the street if you are running stiffer springs, and a big rear bar.
Wow. For real. The back end is far more in control with the Koni rears and finally feels connected to the road. Also I just did a 700 mile trip and the back end feels much better on long drives. Someday I'll do fronts too. Just not comfortable cutting up my front struts to do this.
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I know it's been a while. But I ended up buying riceburners fronts and installing them. The actual process of cutting the old strut and inserting the Koni's is very easy. Just make sure you follow the how to on this site https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...-struts-57977/

The rear takes all of 15 minutes to install (installed at the same time as YYZ V.3 springs).

For the front make sure you use locktite on the bottom allen bolt holding the new strut in the old strut housing. Also make sure the top nut holding the strut onto the top mount is secure (I forgot to torque it on one side and it worked itself loose after 400 miles, once torqued correctly it hasn't given me a problem).

You will need new swaybar endlinks if you're still using stock ones, you'll destroy them trying to get those damn things off, you'll want to make sure you spray the bolts in penetrating oil the night before (if you don't and you're in the rust belt, the bolts aren't coming loose without heat then).

I'm also on a Powell hardcore rear swaybar and the results are amazing, if only I had better tires. Changed some perspectives on the cobalt at autocross even though it's only a base.
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quick question...

are the stock fe5 shocks adjustable at all??
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well damn. just lowered my lnf o h&r racing springs and its a lil high in the rear...
maybe it will get better in a few days and settle in but was just looking to get the rears down a little further...
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Originally Posted by ssblackstealth
well damn. just lowered my lnf o h&r racing springs and its a lil high in the rear...
maybe it will get better in a few days and settle in but was just looking to get the rears down a little further...
The adjustability of shocks do not change the ride height, that's always the springs
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Originally Posted by BLue NoTe
The adjustability of shocks do not change the ride height, that's always the springs
exactly. shocks change the rate of speed of up and down movement. They don't control where the car sits.
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Originally Posted by ssblackstealth
well damn. just lowered my lnf o h&r racing springs and its a lil high in the rear...
maybe it will get better in a few days and settle in but was just looking to get the rears down a little further...
all the lowering springs out there except YYZ will lose trim height and rate. Tiens, H&R B&G and CM among the worst, Eibach and Pedders, some Pedders as bad as tiens.

So you want lower ? just pound the car over bad roads , it will drop more.
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
all the lowering springs out there except YYZ will lose trim height and rate. Tiens, H&R B&G and CM among the worst, Eibach and Pedders, some Pedders as bad as tiens.

So you want lower ? just pound the car over bad roads , it will drop more.
Haha the roads suck where I'm at and my wheel gap hasn't changed since I've had my yyzs Except when I was moving from ks to dallas and my car weighed in about 3500 then it looked lowered about another half inch lol but went back to normal height immediately after removing everything. I embrace the wheel gap
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^^^ smart. and the right tuner as well.
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Did you bother changing the upper strut mounts when you switched to Koni's? I'm looking at upgrading here shortly at 75k miles.
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^^^ at that mileage it would be a smart thing to do
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I'm passing 85k miles on an 09 SS. I am looking into my replacing my struts as routine maintenance, although I have no real indication that they are going bad.

I read that the rears can really benefit from the konis, and are simple to install, versus the fronts which are more difficult to install and benefit less. Would I be fine just purchasing the rears, get some oem FE5 fronts and call it a day with the original springs? I have not run into worn out springs before to be honest but I've also never kept a car passed 75k.

Should springs be included in regular maintenance or should I put that into the if-it-breaks category.
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Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that all 4 stock strut/shocks are undervalved. The car is much more stable with the Konis, especially through side to side transitions. There is a downside, if the car is too stable, it will be slower, but in stock form, the car can be a handful through quick turns, but I doubt most people here will ever experience that.

The Konis are much more predictable, even on lower rate springs like the Pedders, and they are gold with the YYZ.
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I'm going to be doing Koni's and YYz's over the winter. Maybe wait for tax return. Cars going to sit quite a bit, especially with starting to build a house
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that all 4 stock strut/shocks are undervalved. The car is much more stable with the Konis, especially through side to side transitions. There is a downside, if the car is too stable, it will be slower, but in stock form, the car can be a handful through quick turns, but I doubt most people here will ever experience that.

The Konis are much more predictable, even on lower rate springs like the Pedders, and they are gold with the YYZ.
I used to be into quick turns to say the least (my former baby was an sti). This cobalt doesn't exude confidence for me to really push it in corners, which frankly is fine because I never intended it to. However if there is significant benefit from the konis I will splurge.
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Ok so I just got my koni shocks in the mail today. I'm probably going to install them tomorrow. There acting weird though. I compressed them all the way and turned them both exactly 1 full turn from soft. Then I compressed both of them and 1 rebounds much faster than the other one consistently. I've re-adjusted 3 times now and same thing. I adjusted one more hard and there both exactly the same rebound now....but that one is probably about 1.5 turns from soft. Is that okay?
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Originally Posted by Wangspeed
Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that all 4 stock strut/shocks are undervalved. The car is much more stable with the Konis, especially through side to side transitions. There is a downside, if the car is too stable, it will be slower, but in stock form, the car can be a handful through quick turns, but I doubt most people here will ever experience that.

The Konis are much more predictable, even on lower rate springs like the Pedders, and they are gold with the YYZ.

The back of the car was always a tick behind the front of the car until John talked me into konis. maybe it was slower with the konis, but it sure felt more stable, and that let me drive with more confidence.
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you probably are not adjusting quite right they dont always bottom or extend the same amount its sometimes a slight turn past full hard on the clicks if you understand what i mean; but just free movement off the car means nothing unless they are dead.
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Not really sure what your talking about. Should I just adjust both to 1 full turn from soft and not worry about the fairly significant difference in rebound or should I adjust one of them to 1 full turn and the other one to about 1 and a half which makes them both rebound exactly the same?
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Oh are you saying maby I'm not compressing them all the way when adjusting?
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you press down to engage the adjuster and turn. as you count the turns, its possible to get to the limit of full hard for example then unwind and go past the full soft click. does that make sense to you. or put another way, as you engage the adjuster there may be some lost motion or you skip over it.

read wangspeeds destructions and start over.


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