Lowered FE1, steering rack spacers, and steering problems
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Lowered FE1, steering rack spacers, and steering problems
lowered my base modle cobalt not too long ago, was having an issue with bump steer, so i installed some steering rack spacers..
bumpe steer is gone now but it come with a new problem,
When doing 90 degree turns it sounds like my steering gear is creaking and cracking.
Okay thats fine and livable, but when doing these hard turns something is binding.
either a 90 degree turn will do it, or when performing a wide right turn and then quickly murge one more lane to the left.
Im lowered 1.5” fromt 2” rear i belive all zzp springs/ spacers, koni shocks 11.8” links
Looking at the components, nothing at rest looks like its making contact, i have stock tires/rims so i dont think im rubbing the fenders
bumpe steer is gone now but it come with a new problem,
When doing 90 degree turns it sounds like my steering gear is creaking and cracking.
Okay thats fine and livable, but when doing these hard turns something is binding.
either a 90 degree turn will do it, or when performing a wide right turn and then quickly murge one more lane to the left.
Im lowered 1.5” fromt 2” rear i belive all zzp springs/ spacers, koni shocks 11.8” links
Looking at the components, nothing at rest looks like its making contact, i have stock tires/rims so i dont think im rubbing the fenders
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I tried to turn around in circles on a gravel road trying to replicate the noise, It would not.
Ill try again tmr maybe in a big parking lot, looking at the wheels at rest, nothing is making contact with anything, Sure ever-things bit closer since lowering, but I read somewhere, IF its not touching at rest its unlikely for say, your sway bar end link to hit a tie rod for example...
I do feel something, just when your making a sharp turn and you have to turn the wheel a bit more to make that corner, It'll get a little stiffer in the wheel and immediately I hear/ feel a *thud thud thud thud thud* in my wheel wells, which ever direction im turning in, the sound is more prominent in that wheel well. so I back off and it goes away.
On my uneven parking lot in the morning, Ill here a creak/ crack in my gear leaving the lot, and experience this bind making the first turn out.
I think my gear rack could be failing, which would explain the creaking and cracking but Im not feeling any lose of power when doing these turns
, IF i was on a gravel road parked, I could turn my wheel all the way left then all the way right no issue, no sounds, no problems, only occurs when in motion
Ill try again tmr maybe in a big parking lot, looking at the wheels at rest, nothing is making contact with anything, Sure ever-things bit closer since lowering, but I read somewhere, IF its not touching at rest its unlikely for say, your sway bar end link to hit a tie rod for example...
I do feel something, just when your making a sharp turn and you have to turn the wheel a bit more to make that corner, It'll get a little stiffer in the wheel and immediately I hear/ feel a *thud thud thud thud thud* in my wheel wells, which ever direction im turning in, the sound is more prominent in that wheel well. so I back off and it goes away.
On my uneven parking lot in the morning, Ill here a creak/ crack in my gear leaving the lot, and experience this bind making the first turn out.
I think my gear rack could be failing, which would explain the creaking and cracking but Im not feeling any lose of power when doing these turns
, IF i was on a gravel road parked, I could turn my wheel all the way left then all the way right no issue, no sounds, no problems, only occurs when in motion
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Part of me thinks it could be an alignment issue...but I doubt I'm that lucky with a fix
.. My gear rack didn't creak prior to the spacers,
when the technician did an alignment, he said one side was very off, but the other side was pretty much fine. that made me concerned for a moment,
.. I should really start asking for those printouts,
.. My gear rack didn't creak prior to the spacers,
when the technician did an alignment, he said one side was very off, but the other side was pretty much fine. that made me concerned for a moment,
.. I should really start asking for those printouts,
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Its worth a shot to express your concerns to the shop that did the alignment and maybe they can recheck it. While theyre in there it might be worth it to have them do an inspection to ensure everything is as it should be.
It sounds like you may be too low and the axles are binding or they are just worn out.
It sounds like you may be too low and the axles are binding or they are just worn out.
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Well an alignment was certainly done, simply worried me that the tech said, one side was off and the other needed relatively no adjustment...
I wonder, OOTD or whatever sells like three different sized rack spacers, prehaps ZZP’s spacers were only meant for Their SS applicationsż
Zzp’s spacers were pretty big, maybe it wouldn’t hurt to try a more appropriate smaller spacers, ie the smallest one for .5-1” drop.
I should clearify my drop is actually 1inch front 2 inches rear as per zzp 2.2l spring specs
I wonder, OOTD or whatever sells like three different sized rack spacers, prehaps ZZP’s spacers were only meant for Their SS applicationsż
Zzp’s spacers were pretty big, maybe it wouldn’t hurt to try a more appropriate smaller spacers, ie the smallest one for .5-1” drop.
I should clearify my drop is actually 1inch front 2 inches rear as per zzp 2.2l spring specs
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Ordered OTTP’s smallest rack spacers the other day, dying for them to ship. *** spacer’s are flawed, yes, and in this case probably too large.
Will be swaping them out with an alignment and some new tires as soon as they get here
Will be swaping them out with an alignment and some new tires as soon as they get here
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okay update: my 2nd set from OTTP is here now.. ordered the medium sized spacers
\looks like they accidentally sent me a little extra, off this order I got the mid sized spacer (round) and for some reason they sent me another smallest sized spacer (square)
am I suppose to double them up?
\looks like they accidentally sent me a little extra, off this order I got the mid sized spacer (round) and for some reason they sent me another smallest sized spacer (square)
am I suppose to double them up?
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Today was D day, Zzp went out, Ottp spacers went in (1-1.5”drop, round approx 1cm in height)
About half the size of z** spacers, interesting**
still got some creaking noise action, I think that’s always been there... very livable
but my axle bind symptoms are gone!!!! Thank fuc, dove her into a corner, didn’t need to back off. So much relief
Thankyou to everyone again, for info, help and your opinions, I really do appreciate it all!
About half the size of z** spacers, interesting**
still got some creaking noise action, I think that’s always been there... very livable
but my axle bind symptoms are gone!!!! Thank fuc, dove her into a corner, didn’t need to back off. So much relief
Thankyou to everyone again, for info, help and your opinions, I really do appreciate it all!
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