Message I sent to Powell, but looking for opinions
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Message I sent to Powell, but looking for opinions
2008 cobalt SS, My car uses the FE5 suspension, Its been torque steering horribly, but goes left right left right. I can also hear some clunking over bumps. I know the sway bar links may be needing changed again I went to get it aligned first, to rule out other issues and they found my ball joints fit loose in the pockets. They were new ball joints last year, Moog 80567 is what the alignment shop said I needed. I looked up what I bought, and it was the right number. Have you heard of these having a sloppy fit? I hope it didn't wreck the holes in my knuckles too. I'm going to try to order a new set of GM control arms, swap in my Powell cabs and hope for the best. Let me know what you think? Thank you
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The FE1 ball joint stut is smaller than FE5 and maybe that is actually an FE1 ball joint? They aren't real far off because I am running FE5 ball joint with FE1 hub and I just had to spread the part of hub that slips over the ball joint to make it work. Yours would be the opposite situation if that is the case.
I looked on Rock Auto and it suggests this can be used for FE3 and FE5 suspension. Does FE3 suspension have the bigger ball joint stud as well? I was under the impression it didn't.
I looked on Rock Auto and it suggests this can be used for FE3 and FE5 suspension. Does FE3 suspension have the bigger ball joint stud as well? I was under the impression it didn't.
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I'm going to bet Powell will say you should not replace the ball joints in aluminum arms. My question is was the ball joint torqued correctly, it's a tighten to one spec, reverse the nut, then re-torque.
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Ask Powell what the specs should look like on the control arm bushing for the diameter and then see how close the knuckle is, you should have a mm or two of space between the halfs that collapse together around the ball joint.
I went to Moogs page and they have a different part # for the FE1 (80566) and call out the 80567 for FE3 and FE5. I'd bet the install wasn't done properly due to the torque reverse re-torque required.
I went to Moogs page and they have a different part # for the FE1 (80566) and call out the 80567 for FE3 and FE5. I'd bet the install wasn't done properly due to the torque reverse re-torque required.
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Here is what Rock Auto and pretty much everyone else is saying. John says there is a difference in size, so maybe Moog is counting on the knuckle over crushing to tighten around the ball joint stud? Not for me. I ordered new GM arms, so its a moot point now, but it ticks me off Moog would sell them that way.
MOOG K80567 Problem Solver Info
Front Lower; Aluminum Arm; FE3 Sport Suspension; FE5 Performance And Handling Suspension
Doesnt look like its possible to fit both FE3 and FE5 with same part.
Anyone have a listing of that torque sequence?
MOOG K80567 Problem Solver Info
Front Lower; Aluminum Arm; FE3 Sport Suspension; FE5 Performance And Handling Suspension
Doesnt look like its possible to fit both FE3 and FE5 with same part.
Anyone have a listing of that torque sequence?
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