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Old 04-13-2012, 10:23 AM
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OTTP trans mounts vs zzp trans mounts

how come zzp has front and back and ottp only has one.

right now seems cheaper to go with ottp since i only have to buy one?

any imput is helpful thanks
Old 04-13-2012, 10:26 AM
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Ottp has both. Stage 1 is 1 mount, stage 2 is both. I have Ottp stage 2 rotated mounts and love them.
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the ottp stage 2 trans mounts is equivalent both to the zzp mounts. I believe the ottp stage 1 is just a single mount thats why there is a price difference.

beat me to it^
Old 04-13-2012, 10:35 AM
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get stg 2 worth every penny
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trying to determine if that will cure my vibration at low speeds at the same time
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Not sure about if it will clear your vibration issue, it could if you have broken mounts. I will say that OTTP stage 2 mounts eliminated my wheel hop.
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I need some mounts, stocks are worn out it feels on take offs and 1st to 2nd shifts.
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Are these necessary for LNF Cobalts? I thought I heard they weren't. Did I get that wrong?
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Are these necessary for LNF Cobalts? I thought I heard they weren't. Did I get that wrong?
the lnf trans mounts were designed with an automatic transmission in the test car. that causes the axles to not line up properly on the manual transmission cars. the rotated mounts "rotate" the transmission so that the axles line up properly with the manual transmission.

the improper alignment of the axles is the main cause of wheel hop and broken axles on the lnf's
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so given the choice between the brands: zzp, ottp or ttr which ones work the best from everyone's experience?
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Originally Posted by ATLsilverSS
the lnf trans mounts were designed with an automatic transmission in the test car. that causes the axles to not line up properly on the manual transmission cars. the rotated mounts "rotate" the transmission so that the axles line up properly with the manual transmission.

the improper alignment of the axles is the main cause of wheel hop and broken axles on the lnf's
This goes for the LSJ to....

Actually, it all started with the LSJ and Time Attack SS/SC.
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I don't know if I've ever heard of an lnf snapping an axle
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
I don't know if I've ever heard of an lnf snapping an axle
Darren out of Sudbury ON snapped an LNF axle at Toronto Motorsport Park.I had one, met him at an OCC meet that Sunday nite and replaced it, he drove home. He was fast at the strip; sucks he sold the car.
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Rotated mounts were developed by me In 2004 on race Cobalts GM contracted us to build. The rest are copies. Not sure if ZZP mounts are rotated or not.

2005 cobalts were laid out with auto trans, not the LNF. So the F35/F23 manual trans is the issue; the output shafts are not aligned with the knuckle axle center line. Well documented here. GM figured that stiffer mounts and engine management control of the engine would be an economical way of dealing with it on the LNF, just wasnt a perfect solution.

My stage 1 genuine Powell all steel hardcore rotated mounts sell for 110 dollars. We may have a run of stage 1 v.1 mounts off original OEM cores available May 1 at 90 dollars shipped...contact gloria@powellraceshop.com May 1.
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it just seems if gm knew that they designed the car for an auto and it didnt come auto. that they should redesign mounts for the manual tranny and that would of fixed the issue.
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Originally Posted by Vander Nars
it just seems if gm knew that they designed the car for an auto and it didnt come auto. that they should redesign mounts for the manual tranny and that would of fixed the issue.
Its not that simple. We found a lot of things little things that go missed . s***t happens, especially at GM which has some incredibly talented engineers and some incredibly stupid management.

Mark Reuss is about the only upper level guy you can have confidence in there, and he is only one guy a decent dolphin swimming in a fishbowl of guppy bait.

Manual shift cars are about 5-8% of sales, a little higher manual in Canada than USA, BUT Canada as a market is a pinprick on the a****e of progress we are so small as a market. No one cares.

I can tell you, as good as the SS series of Cobalts are, and John Heinricy and Mark Reuss are directly responsible for this goodness, there must be a ton of execs at GM high fiving each other, over the Cruze that none of us want; coz the warranty costs for us car nuts destroying their Delta cars under warranty over 5 years now, must be costing them a fortune...
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powell, do u sell both mounts or just the one?
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what do you recommend me powell? im interested.
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I have the stage 2 on my car, from Powell Motorsports. Finely crafted pieces.
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Same.
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how much r the stage 2 mounts going for? thats for both obviously right?
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I'm interested in the Powell stage 2 mounts as well since I will have coils on the way soon, interested in price
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Stage2 is for both. I don't remember what I paid, been since last July. Email John or Gloria, they can tell you. He may not be still following this topic. gloria@powellraceshop.com
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ha i didnt know powell made mounts! most likely, given that everything they make is solid gold, be worth it over both ottp and zzp. maybe i'm just a fanboy. but if not that, ottp all the way. my wheel hop is 90% gone


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