Halfcent

You have the FE3 suspension to start with, so you do have lower springs from the factory to start with. Thats fine, and as you asked, you would not have to lower a car to do sway bars.

You idea to start with just the rear bar is a good idea. If you ever wanted to do the front, just use the FE5 bar instead of the Eibach.

You can verify the parts numbers from Eibachs website. Don't worry too much about it, just order the rear bar from whoever you buy from.

DFZ24

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Is number 11 the FE5 bar??

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/catalog/frameset.cfm

which one is the FE5?? the first one that says: Stabilizer bar, cobalt, performance/handling susp

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/catalog/frameset.cfm


and can i use the FE5 rear bar for my car??? or it wont fit???
thank you

Maven

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The FE5 bar's number is listed in post 11. There is no FE5 rear "bar", its the whole rear beam. A new FE3/FE5 rear beam is around $1000

DFZ24

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????? i didnt understand that

let me clarify it just in case, this is what i found in gm catalog but which would be the one to buy to upgrade or put as my front sway bar.(couldnt found no part number)

Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - Chevrolet/Geo - Cobalt
, Stabilizer bar, cobalt, performance/handling susp
$64.83

Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - Chevrolet/Geo - Cobalt
Front suspension, Stabilizer bar, Stabilizer bar, cobalt, sport suspension $69.68

Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - Chevrolet/Geo - Cobalt
Front suspension, Stabilizer bar, Stabilizer bar, cobalt, soft ride suspension
$87.36

thank you

ooops i messed up is
Mechanical Catalog - 2007 - Chevrolet/Geo - Cobalt
Front suspension, Stabilizer bar, Stabilizer bar, cobalt, performance/handling suspension $221.06
dont know if is the correct one

Maven

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THE PART NUMBERS YOU NEED ARE IN POST NUMBER ELEVEN OF THIS THREAD

ls1fbody

Not to confuse you, and i think Maven read over this, otherwhise he would have said something. The 08+ FE5 front sway bars are the same thickness, but have a slighly different shape to them. try and get an 08+ front bar if you can. Otherwhise like always, Maven is bang on.

DFZ24

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So i need this too if i going to install the FE5 front sway far? for my 07 SS 2.4L
plus 2 x links 20784688 for $52.85. do i need 2 or 1???

sorry im a noob
thank you

Halfcent

Wow, okay, you need to read a lot more. He very plainly said they are not required, so no, you don't need them, as you ask. And if you don't know if you need 1 or 2 of them, then I'm curious how you think you are going to replace anything if you don't even know what you are trying to replace.

Now I realize that all sounds like I'm being a smart ass, but thats on purpose. I'm trying to keep you from taking apart your perfectly good car before you have actually taken the time to learn how it works.

ls1fbody

i imagine he'll have his shop do it, he's just trying to get the correct parts first.

You need both, one for each side. the endlinks connect the swaybars to your struts, enabling them to do their job.

DFZ24

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yes i normally do that, but if it is easy i'll do it my self but yeah your are correct i take it to my mechanic to do it, he normally don't charge me nothing.


what is was saying is that i'll need these parts or other ones?
1 x sway bar 15821093
2 x Insulators: 22700091 (05)
optinal
plus 2 x links 20784688 for $52.85.

thank you

Halfcent

For doing just the front, yes, that list is correct.

racecartony69

I have rear axle out of 09 ss with fe5. Rear caliper are alumium#25902073 and 74.Iwant sell whole set up.Axle hubs calipers hoses brackets cables.Anyone intristed?

Maven

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PM me pics and pricing.

cruisn

so to my understanding, I can upgrade my fe3 knuckles, to stronger 2008 fe5 knuckles with zero issues correct? at a cheaper price than gm racing.

Maven

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No, you cant. period. In order to use SS/TC knuckles you need to have an 07 SS/SC.

There may be an alternative coming to market though......Ill show y'all when i get it, and maybe we'll gauge interest, and if enough guys want them I am sure OTTP would sell em.

cruisn

will stay tuned in

ls1fbody

why? is it because of the axles? or hubs?

Maven

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Its because of both. You have to use SS/TC hubs an in order to use the SS/TC knuckles. In order to use the SS/TC hubs you must use SS/TC axles. In order to use SS/TC axles you must have an F35. The only car besdies the TC that has the F35 as far as Balts go is the SS/SC. Only 2007 SS/SCs have the same ABS system as the SS/TC. Ipso facto:

Only 2007 SS/TC's can use SS/TC Knuckles.

ls1fbody

or, you can go bonkers and have a hybrid

thanks for the clarification though.

I think Qwik explained it at one point, but i may have missed it, or just figured i would leave it to him to do the right thing, no point in trying to fiddle with his system haha. He does a good job, i try not to ask to many questions.

qwikredline

yeah you have an 06 so different wheel bearings; that work with your abs. But you wanted 5 x4.5 (114.3) so its a straight straight swap EXCEPT machine the hub center to suit your wheels, and fit better axles (TC) and different knuckles (TC machined) and different rear twisting beam (Coblat Time Attack v.2) Koni cars use Time Attack rear twb style v.1. I use time attack bar only v.3. on an early FE5 twb.

Time attack has Koni v.1 twisting beam with v.4 bar added.

Got that? I cant be more specific, then foks will try and copy it and FAIL! You got the good stuff! and a good deal as well but in cases like this good deals are not cheap anyway. How's this? GBM will build a Koni race Cobalt for 75 k. We built them for $54k in 06. Need a donor car and a body in white to start. Yikes!

If anyone is changing front bars, Maven posted a how to, and Halfcent has summarised the suspension iterations here very well. Its a question of carefully writing out what you want to do, not just jumping in a hacking away at it,then executing carefully. Halfcent just said (good advice) that anyone looking to change their car should be cautious and be familiar with what they have....

ls1fbody

and there you have it haha. i think i follow...

Halfcent

Wait....

Wait, wait, wait.

I thought knuckle replacement was completely interchangeable. Just the knuckle now, not all those other parts. The whole "good news" part of the new 2009 TC knuckle was that it was a cheaper alternative to the GM Racing knuckles.

ls1fbody

from what it sounds like, the opening for the axle/hub is much bigger than the 05-07 LSJ's.

I will do a side by side comparo and pictures when i go to install mine. Measurements too.

Maven

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Nope it has been verified that the only direct bolt-on usage of the TC knuckles is with knuckles, hubs and axles, and only in 07 SS/SC's.

You can install all the parts in an earlier SS/SC but youll lose your ABS.

You CAN NOT install them in a 2.2/2.4 car. I verified this a few months ago.

I dont think I have any conflicting info anywhere.......pretty sure i dont have any posts saying they are a direct bolt-in in all cars.

Maven

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Nope it has been verified that the only direct bolt-on usage of the TC knuckles is with knuckles, hubs and axles, and only in 07 SS/SC's.

You can install all the parts in an earlier SS/SC but youll lose your ABS.

You CAN NOT install them in a 2.2/2.4 car. I verified this a few months ago.

I dont think I have any conflicting info anywhere.......pretty sure i dont have any posts saying they are a direct bolt-in in all cars.