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celicacobalt 05-12-2009 02:08 PM

For the HP Tuner Pro's out there - we need your help
 
On May 25th, 2009 I will be taking my car to be tuned by a better shop than the original shop I have used in the past with not so great results. After talking to him today he said he has tuned with every program except HP Tuners and is just now getting into using it with my car being the 1st. He is a very skilled tuner but will still need to find his way around HP Tuners. I am hoping that the people on here with vast knowledge would be able to give him some pointers on tuning my car via HP Tuners and with hints on little things that work good tuning wise with Ecotec's.

I will be emailing this thread to him so he can watch it and use the info to be able to more efficiently use the dyno time.

I'm not sure how the HP Tuner Credit system works, the car is currently tuned with it by the other shop but I don't know if I will need to have another credit to have this shop tune it or not.

If you can all list the basic adjustments that will need to be made to make the car run great with the turbo that would help us out alot. See my sig for the mods I have and what tuning should be done and how to do it in HP Tuners. Thanks. :cssNET:

elecblue06 05-12-2009 03:47 PM

well what other tuning software does he have?

celicacobalt 05-12-2009 06:55 PM

he mentioned a bunch of them that I am not familier with. He is going to start using HP Tuners on alot of cars though soon. Mine is gonna be the learning curve for using that specific software. I sent him the 2.4 tuning FAQ thread but thats aimed mostly at naturally aspirated 2.4's.

jwhitten 05-12-2009 07:04 PM

You will need to buy credits for his cable in order for him to tune your car but if he just got it he should have 8 free credits. As far as adjustments go it has all the adjustments he should be used to and probably a few more it just takes time to get aquainted with HPT and figure out where everything is on it.

It does not even have to be tuned with HPT if any of his other programs support your car. However like I said if he is just using your car a guninea pig for HPT the just use all the adjustments that he would normally use. I am still relatively new to tuning so I will not go into any details but to me tuning my car is pretty easy and straight forward once you figure out what everything does and what not.

1 thing I iwll suggest is to read your stock file and save that in a place where it can stay untouched so you allways have something to fall back on and are not starting all over again. Once you save it you can edit one of your stock file and just save as a diff name or something just be sure you don't screw up your stock file.

celicacobalt 05-12-2009 07:55 PM

yeah i guess in my case the stock file will be the old turbo tune file. i dont ave a stock file to speak of at this point.

elecblue06 05-12-2009 11:28 PM

i was just going to say if he has efi live he has access to things HPtuners doesn't

jwhitten 05-12-2009 11:45 PM

Yeah if your tune right now runs your car good enough to get around keep it for a reference.... I should have worded that differently you allways want something to fall back on though.

celicacobalt 05-13-2009 12:53 AM

So i guess im out another $100 for a liscense though since im not going to the original shop. At least thats the way i think hp tuners explained it to me on their forums.

elecblue06 05-13-2009 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by celicacobalt (Post 3861799)
So i guess im out another $100 for a liscense though since im not going to the original shop. At least thats the way i think hp tuners explained it to me on their forums.

yup.. each cable has to unlock the car.. so by going to a new shop they have to buy the credits..

thats why i mentioned efi LIVE

foff667 05-13-2009 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by elecblue06 (Post 3861471)
i was just going to say if he has efi live he has access to things HPtuners doesn't

Like what?

elecblue06 05-13-2009 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by foff667 (Post 3863395)
Like what?

i know last time I checked that had access to VVT tables and cam phasing as well as had the ability to run them on speed density only .. the first 2 greatly help turbo applications I don't know if you guys have changed that though i know the lnf has some of those tables but i wasn't aware of the LE5 having them .

celicacobalt 05-13-2009 07:03 PM

interesting.

foff667 05-14-2009 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by elecblue06 (Post 3863727)
i know last time I checked that had access to VVT tables and cam phasing as well as had the ability to run them on speed density only .. the first 2 greatly help turbo applications I don't know if you guys have changed that though i know the lnf has some of those tables but i wasn't aware of the LE5 having them .

Like these

http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/HPT...ftcontrols.jpg

Or these

http://mysite.verizon.net/whenn1/HPT.../vvecobalt.jpg

We are constantly adding tables for all of our supported pcm's including the E67 ;)
:cssNET:

celicacobalt 05-14-2009 06:54 PM

is there anything someone knows that would be good to do to the cams on my car with forced induction?

elecblue06 05-14-2009 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by celicacobalt (Post 3868997)
is there anything someone knows that would be good to do to the cams on my car with forced induction?

like the LNF you can use cam fazing and such to help turbo response anf cam overlap to get some good gains

and good stuff foff... last i looked on HPtuner forums nthey weren't available yet :D glad to see you guys didn't forget about us

foff667 05-15-2009 11:43 PM

Yeah the cam phaser stuff is all in the latest beta, the virtual VE is still in testing as we are tweaking a bunch of things at once right now....bigger and better as they say ;)

celicacobalt 05-16-2009 12:14 AM

sounds pretty cool.


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