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T-Man 02-08-2018 07:37 PM

*Video* SS vs Gen2 CTS-V
 
Was in the garage over the weekend, mocking up my giant assed Magnaflow muffler and checking clearances when I hear someone keep reving up a car. I could hear the faint sound of a blower and knew right away that it was a V2. Figured it was one of my neighbors friends but come to find out, it was my neighbor himself.

Long story short, he was getting ready to take our neighbor for a ride, talking some friendly trash and I asked him frankly "Do you want me to gap your new car too?" (He had a bolt on/tuned ATS previously). We all had a good laugh but I wasn't kidding and he knew :lol:

We had two runs, 60-140 (for me) and 55-120. The first run, I had some minor wheel spin but it didn't hold me back. The 2nd run, holy shit. This was the first time I've ever experienced this much wheel spin/torque steer from a 3rd gear pull. Neighbor did the honking...

Enjoy



Slowbalt2000 02-08-2018 08:44 PM

Damn dude, your car really starts moving up top in that second video unless they let out. Good runs for sure.

07blackg5 02-08-2018 08:51 PM

Stock cts?

double clutch 02-08-2018 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000 (Post 7676602)
Damn dude, your car really starts moving up top in that second video unless they let out. Good runs for sure.

Vtec kicked in

Snail_SS 02-08-2018 10:30 PM

Damn he got killed lol

jdbaugh1 02-09-2018 08:35 AM

Nice kills and good videos. Thanks for sharing.

royce777 02-09-2018 09:30 AM

damn this is great. love seeing that turbo put in work

exninja 02-09-2018 10:09 AM

don't give me a ride in your car. I like my car feeling fast.

hawkssoccer11 02-09-2018 10:09 AM

awsome man!! nice kill!!!

T-Man 02-09-2018 10:14 AM

Thanks guys


Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000 (Post 7676602)
Damn dude, your car really starts moving up top in that second video unless they let out. Good runs for sure.

He let out just as I was starting to get going in 4th, so it looks like a slingshot.


Originally Posted by 07blackg5 (Post 7676604)
Stock cts?

Yeah, his V is stock for now. He wants to do some basic mods (pulley, mid-pipe and tune) and I'm sure we'll run again.


Originally Posted by Snail_SS (Post 7676618)
Damn he got killed lol

Feels good man :lol:


Originally Posted by exninja (Post 7676669)
don't give me a ride in your car. I like my car feeling fast.

Haha the offer is always there. Let's get that idle fixed for you soon!

63 Nova SS 02-09-2018 07:05 PM

Nice run, love them saying "that thing is fast".

T-Man 02-10-2018 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by 63 Nova SS (Post 7676720)
Nice run, love them saying "that thing is fast".

Thanks man. Yeah, I got a kick out of that too :lol:

Henry3959 02-10-2018 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by T-Man (Post 7676593)
The 2nd run, holy shit. This was the first time I've ever experienced this much wheel spin/torque steer from a 3rd gear pull.

I hear a clutch that is slipping rather than wheel spin.

T-Man 02-10-2018 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by HGT (Post 7676750)
I hear a clutch that is slipping rather than wheel spin.

Here's the log from the 2nd pull. You can see the speed following the spike in RPM. Once the tires grab, you can see the RPM and speed drop and then follow each other again.

I have other logs showing clutch slip on a 70K mile stock clutch and my previous KY setup. They look nothing like this. If it was going to slip in 3rd gear, 4th wouldn't hold either. :)


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...a0a60c16d7.png

Henry3959 02-10-2018 11:59 PM

You posted that it was a 55mph to 120mph run.... That graph does not match what your saying. The slip / spin is at the very beginning of the run which should be 60 to maybe 70 mph. Your saying your breaking the tires loose in third gear at 109mph?

T-Man 02-11-2018 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by HGT (Post 7676809)
You posted that it was a 55mph to 120mph run.... That graph does not match what your saying. The slip / spin is at the very beginning of the run which should be 60 to maybe 70 mph. Your saying your breaking the tires loose in third gear at 109mph?

I'm not even going to continue wasting my time :lol:

Thanks for your contribution

Henry3959 02-11-2018 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by T-Man (Post 7676810)
I'm not even going to continue wasting my time :lol:

Thanks for your contribution

Then help me to understand.... how much of the 109 is wheel spin? 20, 30, 40mph.

exninja 02-11-2018 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by HGT (Post 7676812)
Then help me to understand.... how much of the 109 is wheel spin? 20, 30, 40mph.

Take the hump out of the speed line and figure it out.

jdbaugh1 02-11-2018 04:35 PM

HGT thought my clutch may have been slipping in a video I posted up and it was tire spin for me as well. If a clutch slips like that you can almost always smell it in my experience.

Henry3959 02-11-2018 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by jdbaugh1 (Post 7676862)
HGT thought my clutch may have been slipping in a video I posted up and it was tire spin for me as well. If a clutch slips like that you can almost always smell it in my experience.

That's not what you said in your reply.
There's not enough data in T-Mans graph to justify anything. If that's tire spin at over 100mph I would want both hands on the wheel.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...a43a7df781.jpg

exninja 02-12-2018 12:36 AM

How would that graph be different if it were wheel spin?

jdbaugh1 02-12-2018 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by HGT (Post 7676876)
That's not what you said in your reply.
There's not enough data in T-Mans graph to justify anything. If that's tire spin at over 100mph I would want both hands on the wheel.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cob...a43a7df781.jpg

I said I agreed with you that it seemed like a little slip, which was true, whether it was tire or clutch I was not sure at that time. However during the numerous pulls I did after that post I paid close attention and was able to confidentially deduce that it was tire spin and not the clutch because the spin only happened in lower gears and not in higher gears.

My point was you try to find thing's wrong with other people's builds, even when there isn't really anything necessarily wrong.

Henry3959 02-12-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by jdbaugh1 (Post 7676899)

My point was you try to find thing's wrong with other people's builds, even when there isn't really anything necessarily wrong.

Not only is that not true, it is rude of you to insinuate. I enjoy looking at the different builds. I just don't have the same.. oh well, I'll just rebuild it attitude as you do.

Henry3959 02-12-2018 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by exninja (Post 7676895)
How would that graph be different if it were wheel spin?

It would help if the legend was there. HPTuners screen shots are not very helpful vs watching live data. Posting the log file would be better.
The graph looks like wheel spin. The video did not sound like wheel spin.

royce777 02-12-2018 08:51 AM

his cobalt is AWD so the front wheels were the clutch slipping and the rear was tire spin


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