06 E85 ION Redline vs 09 GMS1 Cobalt SS/TC
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From: NEPA
Wow, this battle is still going on ?!? I love how some of the LNF guys say we are butthurt. When in all reality they are the ones that are butthurt, because the OP's video/comments actually got to them
I'll say this one more time .... We all drive the same friggin car .... A Cobalt !! Instead of continuously arguing which version is better (LSJ or LNF) why not stick together ? This is a prime example why this site has gone to hell, and why I do more lurking/research than providing information.
I'll say this one more time .... We all drive the same friggin car .... A Cobalt !! Instead of continuously arguing which version is better (LSJ or LNF) why not stick together ? This is a prime example why this site has gone to hell, and why I do more lurking/research than providing information.
$950 - Custom Tube Inc Exhaust (Group Buy)
$180 - Siemens 80# Fuel Injectors
$1.99/g - E85
Free - M62 w/ Ported outlet/Polished inlet
$100 - 2.6" Pulley MPS
$100 - HPTuners Custom Tune
$100 - Innovative Motorsports Wideband Sensor
$40 - K&N Drop In Filter
$220 - ZZP S3 Heat Exchanger
$100 - ZZP Dual Pass Endplate
$100 - GM Option B Kit
$1890
I should really start a new thread titled. "How to build a 300whp LSJ for less then 2k"...
$180 - Siemens 80# Fuel Injectors
$1.99/g - E85
Free - M62 w/ Ported outlet/Polished inlet
$100 - 2.6" Pulley MPS
$100 - HPTuners Custom Tune
$100 - Innovative Motorsports Wideband Sensor
$40 - K&N Drop In Filter
$220 - ZZP S3 Heat Exchanger
$100 - ZZP Dual Pass Endplate
$100 - GM Option B Kit
$1890
I should really start a new thread titled. "How to build a 300whp LSJ for less then 2k"...
Hahn Exhaust - $580.00 + shipping
GM Stage 1 - $485.05 + shipping
That equals $1065.05 + shipping costs.
Thats fairly close if you ask me. Add and intake or charge piping and its even closer.
It's just fact, turbos are more efficient.
That's not the argument here. Most people know that. The argument is why is the SS/TC not slaughting the SS/SC with a better power adder. Some of you guys are really pushing that tiny turbo and if you would have been paying better attention, people are starting post threads about failed turbos. It'll get much worse, mark my word.
Wow, this battle is still going on ?!? I love how some of the LNF guys say we are butthurt. When in all reality they are the ones that are butthurt, because the OP's video/comments actually got to them
I'll say this one more time .... We all drive the same friggin car .... A Cobalt !! Instead of continuously arguing which version is better (LSJ or LNF) why not stick together ? This is a prime example why this site has gone to hell, and why I do more lurking/research than providing information.
I'll say this one more time .... We all drive the same friggin car .... A Cobalt !! Instead of continuously arguing which version is better (LSJ or LNF) why not stick together ? This is a prime example why this site has gone to hell, and why I do more lurking/research than providing information.
This is a self destructing group 
Mike
yea but if you add the intake and charge pipes i bet the race would have out different. they probably would've been even the whole race.
But it didn't though. This is a woulda-coulda-shoulda. Lets just accept the race like it is. They raced, the LNF lost, its not the end of the world.
i'm not angry lol, I thinks it's funny LSJ owners have/try to prove themselves against the LNF..
they pit a highly moddified LSJ vs a slightly modded LNF and rave that it lost. Let us make it fair and put scythe_snake against the op and see who'll win highly modded vs highly modded
they pit a highly moddified LSJ vs a slightly modded LNF and rave that it lost. Let us make it fair and put scythe_snake against the op and see who'll win highly modded vs highly modded
there are some butt hurt people in here lol
you are a fan boi
you are a fan boi
Last edited by cobaltguy889; May 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
i'm not angry lol, I thinks it's funny LSJ owners have/try to prove themselves against the LNF..
they pit a highly moddified LSJ vs a slightly modded LNF and rave that it lost. Let us make it fair and put scythe_snake against the op and see who'll win highly modded vs highly modded
they pit a highly moddified LSJ vs a slightly modded LNF and rave that it lost. Let us make it fair and put scythe_snake against the op and see who'll win highly modded vs highly modded

And I'm no one special, I love the LNF and LSJ equally. I don't want to race my brothers/sisters/cousins/whatever the Ion is the cobalt
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From: NEPA
i'm not angry lol, I thinks it's funny LSJ owners have/try to prove themselves against the LNF..
they pit a highly moddified LSJ vs a slightly modded LNF and rave that it lost. Let us make it fair and put scythe_snake against the op and see who'll win highly modded vs highly modded
they pit a highly moddified LSJ vs a slightly modded LNF and rave that it lost. Let us make it fair and put scythe_snake against the op and see who'll win highly modded vs highly modded

im just saying what that guy was trying to say about the parts and money wise.

I'm trying not to be incestuous I promise!
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From: NEPA
I never said the LSJ wasn't a great platform, in fact I absolutely believe it is! I just think the OPs statement of LSJ>LNF is ignorant. They are both great platforms. I almost bought a SC a couple years back actually.
Either way, LNF or LSJ are still seen as underdogs to others which I love lol..
Either way, LNF or LSJ are still seen as underdogs to others which I love lol..
I never said the LSJ wasn't a great platform, in fact I absolutely believe it is! I just think the OPs statement of LSJ>LNF is ignorant. They are both great platforms. I almost bought a SC a couple years back actually.
Either way, LNF or LSJ are still seen as underdogs to others which I love lol..
Either way, LNF or LSJ are still seen as underdogs to others which I love lol..



