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Old 05-25-2010, 12:33 PM
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Ouch! thats a wiener slap to the face
Old 05-25-2010, 12:35 PM
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stage 1 blows! it only traps like 106-108
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Did everybody forget about the 5 year warranty!

Everyone who ever asks questions about the car have a jaw dropping stunned look when I say 23psi.....with warranty lol

Hello!
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If you want to keep your warranty, stick with the GM stage kits, and do not mod your car.

If you want to make power, them you go to OTTP or TTR and your order real car parts and risk your warranty.
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I have never had a warranty issue with my Trifecta tune. I have been in a few times since the tune. No questions asked. Plus Trifecta is HALF the price as stage 1
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Okay so I read the first page, and didn't feel like reading the other 3. It is what it is. He won. There is no woulda-coulda-shoulda. He is right, many LNF guys are extremely cocky and look down on the LSJ guys, which shouldn't be done. This was happening back in the day when the 08s first came out.

Good kill Ebris. I'm showing this video to my Redline buddy to give him a boost. As he is feeling kind of down about his ride.
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For some reason after reading page 5 I smell bs .
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
For some reason after reading page 5 I smell bs .
Hey I have 40 posts a page setup!!!...oh wait there are still 6 pages. Whooooops.
Old 05-25-2010, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
Okay so I read the first page, and didn't feel like reading the other 3. It is what it is. He won. There is no woulda-coulda-shoulda. He is right, many LNF guys are extremely cocky and look down on the LSJ guys, which shouldn't be done. This was happening back in the day when the 08s first came out.
Good point. I have been following your 252s thread. Pretty cool!

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Good kill Ebris. I'm showing this video to my Redline buddy to give him a boost. As he is feeling kind of down about his ride.


Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
For some reason after reading page 5 I smell bs .
Do tell please.

Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
Hey I have 40 posts a page setup!!!...oh wait there are still 6 pages. Whooooops.
3 days, 6 pages. Not bad!
Old 05-25-2010, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
For some reason after reading page 5 I smell bs .
your retarded
Old 05-25-2010, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltguy889
I'm glad to see you are all sitting in a circle holding hands, saying "our cars are equal."

I'm with Area, man up or shut up.

And yet I doubt anyone on this forum would be willing to "man up" and take the time to organize, fund, and manage a multitude of events to "prove" which motor is superior.
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Originally Posted by Area47

either man up, or get the **** out.
bitch please... i got stickers
Old 05-25-2010, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
bitch please... i got stickers
No ones got mo stickaz than me right now! My car is wrapped in ND500 Rally Logos right now
Old 05-25-2010, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tofu
And yet I doubt anyone on this forum would be willing to "man up" and take the time to organize, fund, and manage a multitude of events to "prove" which motor is superior.
True story.

It would be sweet if someone did, but never
Old 05-25-2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ebristol
Right. From my vid we know that 270ish peak wtq on the LSJ is better then 300+ peak wtq on an LNF.

From this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPplA0UhBkU

We can see that 250wtq on the LSJ is 100x better then 250ishwtq on a stock LNF.

And we can see that 320-330wtq on an LNF is just a little better then 250wtq on an LSJ.

If we did not have enough evidence before, now I think we can safely say that the big TQ numbers being put out by the LNF guys does not mean crap as compared to the LSJ guys.

I think TC owners need to finally accept that...
You could have wrapped all this up by just saying "Powerband"...
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Originally Posted by Tofu
And yet I doubt anyone on this forum would be willing to "man up" and take the time to organize, fund, and manage a multitude of events to "prove" which motor is superior.
And that is not what this thread is about.

As much as I kid around about LSJ > LNF...they are both great engines.

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Originally Posted by ebristol
And that is not what this thread is about.

As much as I kid around about LSJ > LNF...they are both great engines.

I agree, that wasn't pointed at anyone directly...Just the idea that it's moot point of an argument that we are all so quick to hang up on.

Good runs, your car moves out!
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Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez
You could have wrapped all this up by just saying "Powerband"...
Good point. But some people don't know what that means. So I have to explain it with examples so they can understand.

Originally Posted by Forrest Gump
Momma always had a way of explaining things so I could understand them...
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Two cars

Roughly the same weight

Roughly the same peak numbers, one with more under the curve, and a 6.15%(roughly) shorter final drive....why is everyone so shocked the LSJ won?

Seriously...nice kill ebristol...the faster it would have gone the messier it would have gotten too.
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Seriously...nice kill ebristol...
Thanks.

Its all in good fun.

I am just glad I was on the FUN side of the kill.
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Originally Posted by ebristol
Thanks.

Its all in good fun.

I am just glad I was on the FUN side of the kill.
you made the whole story up, the video's were staged.
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
you made the whole story up, the video's were staged.
Yeah. Not only do I have to deal with you on RLFs, now your busting my ***** over here!

For all you guys who say I shift like I grandma watch how I work this automatic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17XBW5OZdOM
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you do.
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Originally Posted by ebristol
Yeah. Not only do I have to deal with you on RLFs, now your busting my ***** over here!

For all you guys who say I shift like I grandma watch how I work this automatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17XBW5OZdOM
OMG, if you were powershifting against the TC? Imagine all the excuses.
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
OMG, if you were powershifting against the TC? Imagine all the excuses.
Or just think about how much I would have beat the turbo by if I was double clutch'n like I should have!


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