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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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Yeah the new Vette Z will make this a distant memory..... Makes a little less power but is literally 800lbs lighter. The Hellcat is coming in at 4200+ compared to 3400ish on the Z06. It won't be even close, the only issue as with most high powered vettes is getting it to the ground.

The C6Z will beat the current GT500's stock for stock, use that as a gauge for the road rape to come!
The current GT500 is actually quicker than the C6Z on the highway, but only slightly.

The GT500 has a slightly underrated engine and is usually between 680-690 ish in actual output.

With some nice sticky tires im sure the new Z will put it down well.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ajjaro
The current GT500 is actually quicker than the C6Z on the highway, but only slightly.

The GT500 has a slightly underrated engine and is usually between 680-690 ish in actual output.

With some nice sticky tires im sure the new Z will put it down well.
It's more of a drivers race. Driver mod will prevail, highway probably the GT500 with all equal factors involved like you said. The Z06 is much more expensive, but the fact it's an NA V8 vs a supercharged V8 and it's that close is an accomplishment. The track is the Z06s true home, it just happens to be fast as hell in a straight line also.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 02:10 PM
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why the hell are people still comparing corvettes to challengers? apples to oranges.

corvette should only ever be compared to the viper..

the challenger wasn't made to compete with the corvette people so who cares if it's slower? anyone with a brain knows that there is no comparison. high HP or not..

People will buy it because it's a nice muscle car with the highest HP numbers.. that's it.. not because they expect it to be the fastest car out there..
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
why the hell are people still comparing corvettes to challengers? apples to oranges.

corvette should only ever be compared to the viper..

the challenger wasn't made to compete with the corvette people so who cares if it's slower? anyone with a brain knows that there is no comparison. high HP or not..

People will buy it because it's a nice muscle car with the highest HP numbers.. that's it.. not because they expect it to be the fastest car out there..

Id guess its price. People as guessing this thing might be 60k+ so from a "what can i buy with my money" point of view they are in the same category.
I do agree they are different flavors of the same thing. Also the only vettes comparable to the Viper are the c6 zr1 or the c7 z06.

I think one of the problems with Chevy is the way the vette is marketed,or more so the way they market other cars around the vette. you have the camaro and Vette whos prices overlap by quite a bit, i think the only thing stopping chevy from making a 600 or 700hp camaro is that they would rather you move up to the flagship.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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^^^^ well you know what? that makes sense! haha

but still 707hp or not it aint beating vettes and ppl would be dumb to believe otherwise.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
why the hell are people still comparing corvettes to challengers? apples to oranges.

corvette should only ever be compared to the viper..

the challenger wasn't made to compete with the corvette people so who cares if it's slower? anyone with a brain knows that there is no comparison. high HP or not..

People will buy it because it's a nice muscle car with the highest HP numbers.. that's it.. not because they expect it to be the fastest car out there..
Yea the 1970's is long gone, no one gives a **** about light to light racing, and the days of 4000 pound lead sleds are behind us.

Like almost all dodge owners, the douchebags will flock to the hellcat and go 0-100-0 from every light, only to write it off in the first corner.

if I wanted a boat, I'd take my boat to the lake.
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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
Yea the 1970's is long gone, no one gives a **** about light to light racing, and the days of 4000 pound lead sleds are behind us.

Like almost all dodge owners, the douchebags will flock to the hellcat and go 0-100-0 from every light, only to write it off in the first corner.

if I wanted a boat, I'd take my boat to the lake.
wow the ignorance in your post is just amazing..

First off, these "boats" have no problem keeping up to lighter cars that should be faster.

Secondly, if these "lead sleds" were behind us then they wouldn't still be selling like they are. They still do because people buy cars like this to relive the good old days.. when cars were big and mean and had some originality. When they were made of materials that were strong and built to last. not plastic junk to save some weight and increase fuel mileage.

if noone gave a f**k about light to light racing then the police wouldn't be cracking down on street racing. 90% of this forum believes the only way to race is from a dig.. 99% of the vids posted by forum members in the war stories section are in a straight line race, not on a race track so your argument had no validity.

newsflash .. not everyone cares about handling because we're not all aspiring race car driver wannabes. some of us just like to feel the G-force from getting up to speed quickly.

In case you have forgotten, everything you described that is so wrong is what american muscle cars were all about. if you want a car that's light and has good handling .. go enjoy the ride to your lake in your corvette and let the rest of us enjoy the hellcat for what it is.. a big, mean, loud car that goes fast in a straight line and pays homage to the good ole days of detroit muscle.

obviously you have no concept of what the term "niche" means and how it applies to the car world.

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Old Jul 9, 2014 | 11:55 PM
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^ This is right on!!!! Everything that Cobalt-daddy just wrote makes sense and is correct!
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 12:03 AM
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id buy one in a heartbeat if i had a family to transport. but i dont so the mustang with a cramped backseat and no trunk works for me. different cars for different purposes. and why the hell do you think they cant handle. all srt vehicles have to be able to pass a 150mph emegency lane change test before dodge will sign off on the suspension
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ajjaro
The current GT500 is actually quicker than the C6Z on the highway, but only slightly.

The GT500 has a slightly underrated engine and is usually between 680-690 ish in actual output.

With some nice sticky tires im sure the new Z will put it down well.
Yeah a tune and pulley and the current GT500 runs high 8s at 150 mph.
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
^^^^ well you know what? that makes sense! haha

but still 707hp or not it aint beating vettes and ppl would be dumb to believe otherwise.
You'd be surprised how many folks will see "Highest HP #'s, blah blah" and think it'll be the fastest thing out there because the hp number is in fact.....higher. Yes, the New Z06 wouldn't be a fair comparison, but the new C7 is. So the whole apples to oranges is null and void. Both are American muscle, both would be comparable in straight line speed. The weight and handling are the biggest differences between the two.
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Horsepower sells cars.
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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Well **** ...
The 707 HP Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Is A 10-Second Car
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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I am more impressed than I thought I would be, mainly with the trap speed. Not bad at all for a boat. Glad Dodge finally brought something to the table in this category.
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 01:38 PM
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Now to see how much it will cost. small loan or second mortgage.
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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The challenger guy still on vacation.....

soooooo who thinks the C7Z will run mid 10s???


I agree its apples and oranges but when it comes to the track, they are going to pitted against each even if it boils down buddy vs buddy for bragging rights.

Either way its effin fast and if had hellcat money i would rock it on the street
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by alerosaint
The challenger guy still on vacation.....

soooooo who thinks the C7Z will run mid 10s???
With an exceptional driver on drag radials. I can see low 11s high 10s on average. The interesting question is will the 8spd auto be quicker then the 7spd manual?
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blrt
With an exceptional driver on drag radials. I can see low 11s high 10s on average. The interesting question is will the 8spd auto be quicker then the 7spd manual?
in most cases probably yes. can't screw up a shift with an auto so you will more than likely see more hellcats making the numbers they are supposed to then you will faster cars with manual transmissions driven by people who can't shift.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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The gap is closing for speed between autos and manuals, not including DCTs.
I also believe the auto in the C7 is lighter than the manual.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Motortrend tested the Hellcat...they got an 11.2 out of it.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Motortrend tested the Hellcat...they got an 11.2 out of it.
Dr's or street tires? street tires that's what it should run IIRC.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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11.2 @125 on street tires and 10.8 @126 on DR's
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blrt
With an exceptional driver on drag radials. I can see low 11s high 10s on average. The interesting question is will the 8spd auto be quicker then the 7spd manual?
If it can hook it'll be 10's 130+ all day with good air, is my guess. It's very similar in specs to the ZR1 and they're a solid 10 second ride. The Auto will be the way to go for the strip!
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 05:12 PM
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Ok folks, I got the challenger guy number so I am texting him now trying to setup this race for Friday or Saturday.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 05:19 PM
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^^what were his mods? Supercharger lol^^
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