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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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Holy **** boys, you guys got so bum hurt you'd think this was a DSM board.

I am well aware of what DSM's are capable of, however you guys are swinging from this DSM nuts cause it ALMOST beat a modded GT-R.

Hell I guy I race with is in his 60's and drives a 10 second street legal maxima, he drives it 3 hours to and from the track every weekend. Gone are the days when 10 second street cars blow my mind.

Sorry boys, get out from under the rock that is cobaltss.net and see for yourself what people are doing.

Forgive me tho that I don't find a streetable DSM that ALMOST beat a GT-R that runs 10.1 impressive.....and I really hate GT-Rs.

Now please, back to nut swinging this guy, sorry to bother you.

I fail to see why you even bothered to post if this doesnt impress you. Move along troll
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:28 AM
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lol this took place at our mexico spot josh
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:30 AM
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probably broke after this video was shot. hahahha
probably hasn't started since
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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obviously ******* failed to notice that after the intial launch the dsm was ahead of the GTR for quite some time before it pulled ahead at the end... idiot again fails to realize that this is 20 year old technology.. who cares what can run 10's? any car that can runs 10's and still drive on the street is impressive... noone is DSM nutswinging... we are appreciating the car for what it can do.. just like we'd be just as impressed if a street legal cavalier or maxima could do the same .. ******* trolls..
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkWdoSS
Really? do you know nothing about DSMs? the GTR is a nice benchmark to shoot for, that one is obviously not stock, the DSM is extremely bad ass, and cheap as hell and I can find tons of videos of DSMs running sub-10s quarters.

John Shephard drives a DSM that can cut a mid-7sec pass @ ~200mph and he can still drive it on the street PLEASE TO GOD show me a video of a cavalier doing that and being street legal!

Im not a nut hugger but give respect where respect is due.

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OK, Shephards 7 second DSM is NOT street legal first of all.

Originally Posted by Shibito
Like how you avoided providing proof of said Cavalier.
My buddies black 91 Cav, 3400 out of a Montana Minivan, best run is 11.9 @ ~124


For good measure, Camrons (boostedecos from J-Body.org) Cav, runs low 10's now.



Originally Posted by Erick161
I fail to see why you even bothered to post if this doesnt impress you. Move along troll
I'm no troll, I'm over here from J-Body.org because I'm building a LE5/LSJ Hybrid at the moment and was looking around for some info. I have a build thread in Advanced Modifications.


Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
obviously ******* failed to notice that after the intial launch the dsm was ahead of the GTR for quite some time before it pulled ahead at the end... idiot again fails to realize that this is 20 year old technology.. who cares what can run 10's? any car that can runs 10's and still drive on the street is impressive... noone is DSM nutswinging... we are appreciating the car for what it can do.. just like we'd be just as impressed if a street legal cavalier or maxima could do the same .. ******* trolls..
ZOMG the DSM got him from a dig, that counts as being a faster car for sure!!!!.....wait? Oh ya...no it doesn't.

Who gives a **** how old it is, I could find you videos of cars with 50 year old motors (almost any SBC) spanking the **** out of both of those cars so who cares how old something is.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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close but a wins a win
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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Nice DSM for sure, although I would be suprised if the transmission did not fall out of that GTR and that DSM ever ran again...LOLZ
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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im still trying to figure out why the gas station owner was dancing and pulling his pants tight in the beginning of the video. walk out and check and just drop your hands....
nice vid. seen it on my friends facebook a while ago
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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heres a good buddys cav 3800 GTP motor turboed...not sure his best time

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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hell if were posting cavalier videos then fetters car is here

YouTube - Turbo cav. making 11sec. passes
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gotboost?17
heres a good buddys cav 3800 GTP motor turboed...not sure his best time

Turbo? I think not
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Turbo? I think not
Ya there's definitely a blower under that fugly plastic cover.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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NEWT "Who gives a **** how old it is, I could find you videos of cars with 50 year old motors (almost any SBC) spanking the **** out of both of those cars so who cares how old something is."

ya lets compare apples to oranges... an old large displacement V8 vs a 4 cylinder... good comparison. 4 cylinders require some ammount of technology to be really fast...I.E. VVT, Forced induction, direct injection, etc. v8's don't... they can be simple as hell...it's called displacement. the technology in that GTR is light years ahead of the DSM yet it barely beats it. kudos to the DSM.. and kudos to the 11 second cavaliers as well... why can't you appreciate something for what it is instead of bashing someone's accomplishment...if you think being impressed by what that DSM is capable of is nuthugging DSM fanboism then give your head a shake... if it was a cavalier or a maxima you'd be accusing us of being being chevy or nissan nutswingers because we were impressed.. only an idiot would say giving a GTR a run for it's money in any type of sports car isn't impressive. go troll elsewhere..and in the future try to avoid someone pissing in your cornflakes so you don't come on here and try to **** in everyone elses's

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
NEWT "Who gives a **** how old it is, I could find you videos of cars with 50 year old motors (almost any SBC) spanking the **** out of both of those cars so who cares how old something is."

ya lets compare apples to oranges... an old large displacement V8 vs a 4 cylinder... good comparison. 4 cylinders require some ammount of technology to be really fast...I.E. VVT, Forced induction, direct injection, etc. v8's don't... they can be simple as hell...it's called displacement. the technology in that GTR is light years ahead of the DSM yet it barely beats it. kudos to the DSM.. and kudos to the 11 second cavaliers as well... why can't you appreciate something for what it is instead of bashing someone's accomplishment... only an idiot would say giving a GTR a run for it's money isn't a big deal for most sports cars. go troll elsewhere..
It is a good comparison since you where saying the DSM is impressive since the technology is older. Many old V8 cars are competative with these cars and have none of the technology you mentioned, displacement aside of course.

I'd love to hear more on your theory about how adding VVT and DI makes a motor "light years ahead" of another motor. DI and VVT has been around more or less since the 1950's. DI has been used in mass production by Mitsubishi circa 1995 and VVT has been used (abet a varition of the concept) by Honda since the late 80's.

I do appriciate that DSM, I'm just saying that I am not blown away by the fact that it almost beat that GT-R.

I am however arguing your reasoning in which you are considering the DSM impressive.

Your move.

PS. I think you missed the part about me not being a troll, I'm on this site to gather information to build a motor.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by newt
It is a good comparison since you where saying the DSM is impressive since the technology is older. Many old V8 cars are competative with these cars and have none of the technology you mentioned, displacement aside of course.

I'd love to hear more on your theory about how adding VVT and DI makes a motor "light years ahead" of another motor. DI and VVT has been around more or less since the 1950's. DI has been used in mass production by Mitsubishi circa 1995 and VVT has been used (abet a varition of the concept) by Honda since the late 80's.

I do appriciate that DSM, I'm just saying that I am not blown away by the fact that it almost beat that GT-R.

I am however arguing your reasoning in which you are considering the DSM impressive.

Your move.

PS. I think you missed the part about me not being a troll, I'm on this site to gather information to build a motor.
point being a 4 cylinder requires technology to make big POWER reliably .. not to run. i'm not debating that the technology has been around for a long time... but it is required for a 4 cylinder to compete with a V8 in most cases. any car that's not even near the price or class of a GTR and can keep up with it is impressive by most standards... sorry we set the bar too low for you maybe you should stick to the motor building threads instead of pretending that the performance of a GTR and any car that can keep up with it isn't interesting. just because you can make almost any car this fast doesn't mean it's less impressive when a car like this can.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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You clearly don't get it. I'm not saying who cares that it runs a 10 sec 1/4 mile, what I'm saying is there are thousands of over cars out there that can do the same thing.

Everytime I go to the race track I see loads of 10 sec Hondas/Mitsus/VWs/Chevs/etc. There are thousands of cars, that have "less technology" than that DSM, run the same times or faster and aren't AWD to boot.

So like I said, what makes this car so impressive? Nothing, yes it runs in the 10's, but the only reason you guys think its cool cause it almost beat a modded GT-R.....who cares, I could go to the race track and find a dozen cars that are faster than the GT-R.

Anyways...this is getting boring....back to building motors, I'll let you e-racers have your fun.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by newt
You clearly don't get it. I'm not saying who cares that it runs a 10 sec 1/4 mile, what I'm saying is there are thousands of over cars out there that can do the same thing.

Everytime I go to the race track I see loads of 10 sec Hondas/Mitsus/VWs/Chevs/etc. There are thousands of cars, that have "less technology" than that DSM, run the same times or faster and aren't AWD to boot.

So like I said, what makes this car so impressive? Nothing, yes it runs in the 10's, but the only reason you guys think its cool cause it almost beat a modded GT-R.....who cares, I could go to the race track and find a dozen cars that are faster than the GT-R.

Anyways...this is getting boring....back to building motors, I'll let you e-racers have your fun.
ya and how many of those 10 second cars you see actually drive on the street? not many i bet.. considering how fast a first gen DSM is stock compared to how fast it is in that video... it is impressive actually. especially considering it doesn't cost alot of money to make it that fast. not everyone spends their weekends at the track and has a chance to see fast cars like this everyday... go **** and moan on another forum... people post threads like this because some people may find it interesting and fun to watch... just because you don't doesn't mean you can come in here and **** on everyne who thinks it's impressive because they don't see cars like this very often and accuse them of being DSM nut swingers because it happens to be a DSM in the video that people are commenting on...Just because it doesn't impress you doesn't mean it shouldn't impress anyone else either.. if you weren't trolling then you wouldn't be writing negative close minded comments in someone elses post, you'd actually be looking at engine building threads like you claim to be here doing.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Don't you guys realize newt's just stirring the pot?
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Don't you guys realize newt's just stirring the pot?
yep... it's what 99% of the trolls on these forums do..
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
yep... it's what 99% of the trolls on these forums do..
Yep, not gonna lie, I do it too
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
ya and how many of those 10 second cars you see actually drive on the street? not many i bet.. considering how fast a first gen DSM is stock compared to how fast it is in that video... it is impressive actually. especially considering it doesn't cost alot of money to make it that fast. not everyone spends their weekends at the track and has a chance to see fast cars like this everyday... go **** and moan on another forum... people post threads like this because some people may find it interesting and fun to watch... just because you don't doesn't mean you can come in here and **** on everyne who thinks it's impressive because they don't see cars like this very often and accuse them of being DSM nut swingers because it happens to be a DSM in the video that people are commenting on...Just because it doesn't impress you doesn't mean it shouldn't impress anyone else either.. if you weren't trolling then you wouldn't be writing negative close minded comments in someone elses post, you'd actually be looking at engine building threads like you claim to be here doing.
I would say that 75% of them are street cars, not trailer queen street cars either. The maxima gets driven sometimes 5-6 hours each way to the track and back (he races in a point circuit).

Seriously tho dude, I stated my opinion, you've been bitching about it for the last two pages of this thread. In all my replies I was just defending my opinion, if you think its cool then thats great, I only argued your abscure reasoning that you backed up your opinion with (cause your facts where ussually wrong).

PS. This is my build thread (OMG it does exist!) https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/adva...thread-239470/

I was worried for a while there, I almost moved my house under a bridge, you had me pretty convinced I was a troll.

I will sleep well tonight now.

Have a good day bros!
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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LOL
Just noticed the flexing bumper at the end. Holy ****!!

Looks like the GT-R left JUUUUST a smidge before the DSM. Could've made the difference in this race as close as it was. IDK...
It wasn't really a smidge. It was close to a half second, or at least 3 tenths. The DSM definitely ran the quicker ET on that race. He just slept at the line.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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I would say that 75% of them are street cars, not trailer queen street cars either. The maxima gets driven sometimes 5-6 hours each way to the track and back (he races in a point circuit).

Seriously tho dude, I stated my opinion, you've been bitching about it for the last two pages of this thread. In all my replies I was just defending my opinion, if you think its cool then thats great, I only argued your abscure reasoning that you backed up your opinion with (cause your facts where ussually wrong).

PS. This is my build thread (OMG it does exist!) https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/adva...thread-239470/

I was worried for a while there, I almost moved my house under a bridge, you had me pretty convinced I was a troll.

I will sleep well tonight now.

Have a good day bros!
dont mind him, the rest of css isnt like him. hes the one trolling. was doing it to me today in another thread as well. welcome to css.
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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lol ya im trolling... you two whiners came into other peoples threads and started bitching first... "oh that DSM isn't that impressive... nutswingers" and "why are you being such a baby? it's just a gf dumping you" seriously you both need to get a life... noone asked for your bullshit comments and negative attitudes... you both need your head red... stating your opinion is one thing... bitching at someone because he's heartbroken about a lost love or calling people DSM lovers because they are impressed by a car they don't see everyday is just pathetic. quit trolling and realize that not everyone has to agree with your opinions. and if you both want to state your opinions then start your own ******* thread and quit turning someone elses thread into a "who cares about your video or gf" thread. not one of my posts in these threads were negative or unrelated to the topic..so it's obvious who the trolls are.. we're here to enjoy each others posts... not critisize them.. if that's all you're going to do then get lost and make CSS a happier place for everyone.

that's all im going to say because im tired of arguing with retards who have nothing better to do than bitch about other people or their threads and start arguments instead of enjoying the community like everyone else is trying to do. apparently mommy never told you both that if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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