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Old 10-28-2013, 04:19 PM
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My recent fun: Genesis coupe vs MS3, Focus ST, newer WRX, and Cobra

This may get a little long. My cars are both under the knife, so I've been driving my friend's Genesis coupe 2.0 lately since it just sits here while he is at college. He came back last weekend and we installed his DW 800cc injectors and my job has been to tune it on E85 with the Dynojet CMD piggyback.

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2010 base model Automatic

When I first flew down to AZ to move him up here and drove it I was extremely disappointed with how slow it was stock. We damn near lost to an FRS. Once we got up here we added a 2.5" downpipe and 3" catback, along with some suspension, then he got a Dynojet CMD piggyback and we put the 20 psi base map on it, which woke it up a bit. He then got some charge pipes and a bigger FMIC. Last weekend we put the injectors in and I started working on the tune.

My first night out I came across a newer WRX hatch, all stock. The gen was on 18 lbs and the map clamp we ran for the pump gas 20 lb map (timing is not adjustable so have to use map clamping to make it land in the portion of the timing map you desire), and fueling wasn't perfect. We ran from 40 and by 100 he had a car on me.

I then ran a friend's new focus ST, all stock. 40-100 he had a half car.

Over the next few days I played with the car in my spare time, got it on 22lbs and holding 15 up top (baby stock td04-13t like the 02-05 wrx's), got it clamped down so I can run a bit more timing to take advantage of the corn sauce as well.

My first run on the more dialed in tune was against an 8th Gen civic Si with intake, header, exhaust and Kpro tune. I've seen this car edge out a couple stock LSJ's for reference. We did 2 40 rolls and a 20 roll, and by 125 I had about 3-4 cars every time.

The next night I re ran the ST. Did a 40 roll and by 120 I was a good 4 cars ahead of him. I knew the car was running much better then before at that point

I then ran my roommate's 98 Cobra. It has the usual intake, headers, x pipe, catback, 4.10's and has 10.5:1 pistons instead of the stock 9.8:1. He has a 150 shot but wasn't using it. The car ran 13.1's @103 on slicks before the motor build and headers. We ran from 40 to about 125 and he ended up a half car ahead of me.

Finally I ran a friend's speed 3 who really wanted a piece! His car is still stock with just the res and muffler deleted. It has never lost to another speed 3 or 6 around town for some reason, and we have raced a few since it used to be my friend's little brothers car and we would take it out racing He was alone and I had a passenger. 40 roll, 3 honks and he started creeping ahead a half car, and at about 100 I came around him and at 130 I ended up a half car ahead of him.

Anyways, those are my stories of entertainment in the past 6 days Sorry it got long. Its more of a review with stories lol.
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how much can that tranny hold ?
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Good question lol there is a gt2871r on the way in hopes of 350whp. Lets see if this 5 speed auto on the inconsistent hyundai built motor will take it!
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Whaaaaaaaat Taylor Posts in the War Stories thread with no videos!?!?!?! iphone was on charge or couldnt squeeze another race on that memory card? Lol
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I have one of the speed 3 race I suppose I can post lol I'll just have to upload it.

I am supposed to race a stock evo X tomorrow night now and anyone else who may want to play, so I'll take videos if I do that. Racing in slower cars is so much fun! Not even joking. There are so many cars to play with
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Dang that's a small turbo on that thing
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Infra, what are you using to tune the genesis ? As far as a program goes ?
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In for vids! Lol
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Good to see some mods on those cars!
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
I have one of the speed 3 race I suppose I can post lol I'll just have to upload it.

I am supposed to race a stock evo X tomorrow night now and anyone else who may want to play, so I'll take videos if I do that. Racing in slower cars is so much fun! Not even joking. There are so many cars to play with
Even a stock LNF is too quick for most other compact cars.

Anything quicker just thinks you're some little **** being a ricer.

It can be tough getting guys to race.
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Using the Dynojet CMD piggyback for tuning. Basically has the main fuel table, boost offset table, and map and tps clamp tables. The fuel and boost tables are a percentage over or under stock, and the clamp tables are sensor voltage clamps. It's a little barbaric, but it works and is much cheaper than a Haltech for what he wants.

And yes, a stock LNF would likely pull this thing or be real close lol, but it is pretty fun for what it is.
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yea ive been looking around on the genesis forums and it seems like you have to send your ecu into the guys for a tune, clad you found out a more convenient way of doing things lol

if only hp tuners did all lol
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I have HPT, Ecuflash, Evoscan, countless Cobb ATR files, Uprev, and a few others, and of course none of them work for that car lol. The CMD is a nice little solution though, just not as thorough as most would like, but you can make due with it until you get into the bigger setups.
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Oh those years of geni's where just terrible, anywhere beyond 300hp they are just a ticking time bomb.

LNF love.
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Oh those years of geni's where just terrible, anywhere beyond 300hp they are just a ticking time bomb.

LNF love.
Thats kind of what I told him. His gt2871r is lost in the mail right now, and USPS is "investigating it", so he will probably get his money back rather than the turbo. I told him that he should just leave it stock turbo and have fun, as it is already much quicker than when he left it with me. He wants 350whp, which I told him can be done, but for how long who knows. For someone who is car savvy and knows what they are doing and what to look for it should last a while, but he is not and doesn't really know much about cars. He is learning, I'll give him that, but I told him I'd rather have him enjoy the car how it is for a long time rather than risk it.

However, if his heart is set on a bigger turbo....I won't really object lol not my money. Either way, I continue to drive it until next weekend lol.
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Why didn't he buy the 3.8 instead of the 2.0?
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He doesn't know a ton about cars by any means lol, and they found this one for a good price. I told him it was mod friendly and that it would be a good car for him to learn on. However, I didn't really expect him to want over 300whp.

We did a 3" turboback on the speed 3 and ran again. He now gets about 2 cars on the genesis by 130.

Also ran a friend's charger that night. Auto v8 non-srt with the 365hp or whatever, he just has muffler deletes. 40-130 he got a fender after 120.
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Ran an Evo X with just muffler deletes and intake in the genesis the other night. from 40 he got out about 2 cars to 100 then I stopped his pull. By 110 I had started pulling back, and by 120 I was at his bumper, 130 I was passing him and when we let off at 145 I had about a car and a half on him. Surprising for such a small turbo.
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Sounds like a typical awd car. They just become incredibly inefficient at higher speeds.
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Wheres the vide0?
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Of which race? lol
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Idc all that you have. I just remember you saying that you were at least a going to get the EVO race on vid?
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Well it was a different evo. I never got to race the other one, but it was also stock. I still have to upload the MS3 race. Maybe I can do that from my phone.

I'll probably be getting some races in this week in my winter redline Those I'll make sure to film.
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Here's the video of the race against the MS3 in my OP. I'll be uploading more in a new thread from my car this summer.

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