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bratboy90 02-09-2012 02:05 AM

RL ZZP Stage 3 vs RL Stage 2 Hmmmm. ZZP fail?
 
This is a legit video by my friend recording. I has in my 05' Redline, vs an 04' RL of a buddy of mine. So these stat's are legit. ZZP canned tune sucks. I am in the right side car:

40 roll to about 115mph. Both of us had a sharp turn up ahead. This is 3rd gear into 4th. Tied at braking. Right had slight jump, but did hit on 3rd honk on time. TIED :(

Race was after about 1 hour of highway driving(spirited highway driving) in 30degree temps. IN MEXICO!!!

LEFT SIDE:
2004 Saturn Ion Redline
ZZP stage 3 FMH/E
Dual Pass
2.9 Pulley
60lb Injecotrs
No passengers

RIGHT SIDE:
2005 Saturn Ion Redline
3.1 Pulley
42lb Injectors Lucas
K & N CAI
ZZP Headers
High-Flow Magnaflow Cat-back(CUSTOM) 3in DP to 2.5
NO COOLING MODS
HORRIBLE TUNE AWFUL, 10.0AFR at WOT *PUKE*
1 passenger

Ion Redline Stage 3 vs Stage 2 - YouTube

Enjoy my Friends! In all honesty he could have took me if we continued accelerating in 4th, he was very slowly pulling on me.

nhanson 02-09-2012 08:00 AM

Stage 3 Ion needs exhaust and custom tune:)

user 72239 02-09-2012 08:18 AM

Yeah, its widely known that canned tunes suck. You have to get a custom one. Canned tune is only to get your car running.

Slow01GTP 02-09-2012 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by bratboy90 (Post 6328265)

LEFT SIDE:
2004 Saturn Ion Redline
ZZP stage 3 FMH/E
Dual Pass
2.9 Pulley(WITH NO EXHAUST MODS)
60lb Injecotrs
No passengers

RIGHT SIDE:
2005 Saturn Ion Redline
3.1 Pulley
42lb Injectors Lucas
K & N CAI
ZZP Headers
High-Flow Magnaflow Cat-back(CUSTOM) 3in DP to 2.5
NO COOLING MODS
HORRIBLE TUNE AWFUL, 10.0AFR at WOT *PUKE*
1 passenger
.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...8020513257.jpg

That "stage 3" RL is probably knocking like a son of a bitch with a 2.9 pulley and no exhaust mods. If he had the proper supporting mods, he would walk you with ease.

drumrush 02-09-2012 08:53 AM

Not only that, the 05 has no cooling mods!

USMCFieldMP 02-09-2012 09:10 AM

You don't NEED cooling mods, especially on a 3.1" pulley.

drumrush 02-09-2012 12:44 PM

But they help

cranemaster 02-09-2012 12:48 PM

I thought exhaust on a SC car is like, solid 15HP, or more when its custom tuned.

Unleash the beast!

Frogstofall 02-09-2012 01:04 PM

My $.02 Camera should be in one of the cars that are racing, not 1/4 mile behind.

:lol:

mofofernando 02-09-2012 01:35 PM

A driver mod could mean the difference between those 2 cars.

Slow01GTP 02-09-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by mofofernando (Post 6329102)
A driver mod could mean the difference between those 2 cars.

x2. this could be the case.

AndrewSS/TC 02-09-2012 02:49 PM

cause these canned tunes are meant to be balls to the wall. no, they are meant to make the car run safely with your stage kits.

Chase0224 02-09-2012 04:04 PM

:facepalm:

bratboy90 02-09-2012 04:42 PM

LOL. Love the comments.

nhanson 02-09-2012 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Frogstofall (Post 6329012)
My $.02 Camera should be in one of the cars that are racing, not 1/4 mile behind.

:lol:

i couldnt keep up:bye:

once the S/C goes on i can fly by them:lol:

Jib_LxA 02-09-2012 07:45 PM

The power a stage 3 is over a stage 2 was gained by the stage 2's exhaust mods.

Jib_LxA 02-09-2012 07:46 PM

If the stage three had the same exahaust mods and a real tune, you'd see the difference dry clearly

bratboy90 02-09-2012 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jib_LxA (Post 6329860)
If the stage three had the same exahaust mods and a real tune, you'd see the difference dry clearly

Keep in mind right side car had an extra 200lbs passenger and had been driving 1 hour at 80mph *spirited* Also is at 10AFR at WOT.

I just wanted ZZP canned tuned people to see that it's complete CRAP!

05Slowline 02-09-2012 08:08 PM

searching for fucks given.....



no fucks found

Slow01GTP 02-10-2012 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by 05Slowline (Post 6329897)
searching for fucks given.....



no fucks found

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...om-the-sky.jpg

nwss 02-10-2012 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by Slow01GTP (Post 6328432)
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...8020513257.jpg

That "stage 3" RL is probably knocking like a son of a bitch with a 2.9 pulley and no exhaust mods. If he had the proper supporting mods, he would walk you with ease.

sevensix9 and nwss gettn some - YouTube

my car(camera car)

zzp 3" intake
zzp 2.9 pulley
42s
p&p tb
p&p sc
zzp canned tune
10.9 afr =(
13psi
stock exhaust with no muff

allens car

injen intake
zzp 2.8 pulley
60s
zzp lontube header/dp
3" catback
zzp s3 h/e
zzp intake spacer
zzp tune??? i dk

first race i didnt try(car on the left is a 360whp sstc), 2nd i missed 3rd(roll pin going out) 3rd race notice his lights dissaper

guess i had so much knock it helped me win =D

Slow01GTP 02-10-2012 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by nwss (Post 6330491)
my car(camera car)

zzp 3" intake
zzp 2.9 pulley
42s
p&p tb
p&p sc
zzp canned tune
10.9 afr =(
13psi
stock exhaust with no muff

allens car

injen intake
zzp 2.8 pulley
60s
zzp lontube header/dp
3" catback
zzp s3 h/e
zzp intake spacer
zzp tune??? i dk

first race i didnt try(car on the left is a 360whp sstc), 2nd i missed 3rd(roll pin going out) 3rd race notice his lights dissaper

guess i had so much knock it helped me win =D

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ons/spidey.jpg

You forgot to mention that your car is completely gutted.:nono: but of course that wouldn't matter would it?

Chase0224 02-10-2012 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by bratboy90 (Post 6329871)
Keep in mind right side car had an extra 200lbs passenger and had been driving 1 hour at 80mph *spirited* Also is at 10AFR at WOT.

I just wanted ZZP canned tuned people to see that it's complete CRAP!

are you dense? once again canned tunes are meant to get you to a local tuner to TUNE your car. That way if you have to you can drive it. They arent meant to be fast... Jesus...

RoadconeTuning 02-10-2012 09:53 AM

I love when people bitch about a rich tune and continue to race...

nwss 02-10-2012 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning (Post 6330838)
I love when people bitch about a rich tune and continue to race...

Why get it tuned now when I haven't put my exhaust, 2.7, meth on yet.


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