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Old 08-27-2009, 09:08 AM
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i raced a stock ss/tc and my mods were stock pully intake header/dp and a custom tune
40-110 i put him at my back bumper 2 times on the 3rd pull he was a fender ahead of me no cooling FTL
but i have races gms2 only cars and i usually have them at my back bumper just like the TC was
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Originally Posted by Supercharged06
i raced a stock ss/tc and my mods were stock pully intake header/dp and a custom tune
40-110 i put him at my back bumper 2 times on the 3rd pull he was a fender ahead of me no cooling FTL
but i have races gms2 only cars and i usually have them at my back bumper just like the TC was
thats cool to know that a stock pullied car can be quick with a nice tune
Old 08-27-2009, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
thats cool to know that a stock pullied car can be quick with a nice tune


yea they can definitally hang in there with faster cars with just a tune the biggest advantage and why i was able to beat the TC was bc i have a higher reline then him the only time i gained ground was when he shifted
Old 08-27-2009, 09:20 AM
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I think the SS/TC will win. If the SS/TC NLS he will definitely win. I just raced a buddy of mine from a 40 roll. He had stage 2, header, exhaust and a hurst STS. He puleld a fender on me then I reeled him in. If the ss/tc doesn't NLS, I think the ss/sc will win.
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Originally Posted by Supercharged06
yea they can definitally hang in there with faster cars with just a tune the biggest advantage and why i was able to beat the TC was bc i have a higher reline then him the only time i gained ground was when he shifted
yeah the increased redline, and tad bit more aggresive gearing helps make up for the lower torque ss/sc's produce vs. the torque in a ss/tc.
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what the hell is ftw?????? ive been wondering that for like 8 months now
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Originally Posted by cobaltss_man
what the hell is ftw?????? ive been wondering that for like 8 months now
For The Win.
Old 08-27-2009, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by roser4888
When i had just the stage 2 i ran a 14.1 @ 101mph and missed 3rd. The tc modles are suppose to run a 14.1 stock. Deff a stage 2 sc will beat a tc.
Seeing as lots of guys have with TC have run sub-14 seconds while still stock, your logic is skewed.
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Originally Posted by IslangD
I also think its funny how all you guys are talking about et's yet you run from rolls. All that matters in the trap speed. The cobalt TC has trapped 104 STOCK. Guess what most Mustang Mach 1's trap stock ???? 104-105. Guess what most Ls1 GTO's trap stock 104-105.

Funny isn't it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30UxICiLlss


FWD vs RWD traps... that is all.
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Ive only had my cobalt ss/sc little over a month and finally ran a cobalt yesterday from like 50-110mph or so. I saw the rims and it was a tc, I pulled him by about a car im stage 2 only. I basically got him right off the bat and hardly pulled after that.
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LSJ FTMFW!

go beat his ass.
Old 08-27-2009, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Behaviorz
Ive only had my cobalt ss/sc little over a month and finally ran a cobalt yesterday from like 50-110mph or so. I saw the rims and it was a tc, I pulled him by about a car im stage 2 only. I basically got him right off the bat and hardly pulled after that.
this is usally how it goes. if the ss/sc driver is on the ball he will likely pull ahead. other way around and the ss/tc will take the win. nice run
Old 08-27-2009, 11:12 AM
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Not to jack his thread but how does a stage 2 nsrt line up in this? A ss/tc stock vs ss/sc stage2 vs nsrt stage2?
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Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
Not to jack his thread but how does a stage 2 nsrt line up in this? A ss/tc stock vs ss/sc stage2 vs nsrt stage2?
a stage 2 NSRT4 would spank both if tuned and fully bolted.
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I'm not saying the nsrt is tune nor fully bolted. I'm saying strictly stg2 nsrt
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I walked a stg2 srt with my stock TC from a 60 roll on the highway.
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Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
I'm not saying the nsrt is tune nor fully bolted. I'm saying strictly stg2 nsrt
a stage 2 only NSRT4 is relatively slow because it has a very conservative tune. With bolt ons, and a solid tune you can make well over 300 whp and run 12's easily.
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yeah i remember back in the day when the ss/sc was top dog among the cobalt community it took GM Stage 2 to compete with a nsrt-4 Stage 2. I remember watching some races on Streetfire, and the Stage 2 ss/sc would win sometimes. now i know when you fully bolt and tune a nsrt-4 its no contest anymore.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
yeah i remember back in the day when the ss/sc was top dog among the cobalt community it took GM Stage 2 to compete with a nsrt-4 Stage 2. I remember watching some races on Streetfire, and the Stage 2 ss/sc would win sometimes. now i know when you fully bolt and tune a nsrt-4 its no contest anymore.
Hmm, I thought a stage 2 cobalt was about equal to a stock nsrt4.
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Ok just asking. I figured they would all be in the same boat

Originally Posted by SS4ME
Hmm, I thought a stage 2 cobalt was about equal to a stock nsrt4.
See this is what people have in their head and its completely false

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Old 08-27-2009, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
yeah i remember back in the day when the ss/sc was top dog among the cobalt community it took GM Stage 2 to compete with a nsrt-4 Stage 2. I remember watching some races on Streetfire, and the Stage 2 ss/sc would win sometimes. now i know when you fully bolt and tune a nsrt-4 its no contest anymore.

my buddy is making around 310 whp with stage 2 and full bolt ons + a tune. Hes stays a fender behind me up to 60, then I pull him. However, his turbo is much smaller and makes power in the bottom while mine makes it in the top, so this makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Acey
Seeing as lots of guys have with TC have run sub-14 seconds while still stock, your logic is skewed.
Running sub 14s consistently is not the norm for a stock TC; the average time is somewhere in the ballpark of 14.02ish to 14.2 give or take. Are 13s obtainable, yes. Could someone at an average elevation go run these consistently with a stock TC, highly doubtful.

Based on track times of a stage 2 LSJ and those of a stock LNF this isn't going to be a walk in the park for the SC and the same goes for the TC regardless of whether or not NLS is used. Distances should be within the rear quarter panel in either direction; in fact a best of 6 pulls (with breaks to avoid heatsoak on the LSJ and COT mode on the LNF) I'd almost expect it to be 3 and 3 but that's in a perfect world . Unfortunately someone is going to **** up during the race and the resulting post will turn into an LSJ or LNF fanboi fest as usual videos or not so I'll make my prediction now and await the outcome .
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Originally Posted by Permafried-
Running sub 14s consistently is not the norm for a stock TC; the average time is somewhere in the ballpark of 14.02ish to 14.2 give or take. Are 13s obtainable, yes. Could someone at an average elevation go run these consistently with a stock TC, highly doubtful.

Based on track times of a stage 2 LSJ and those of a stock LNF this isn't going to be a walk in the park for the SC and the same goes for the TC regardless of whether or not NLS is used. Distances should be within the rear quarter panel in either direction; in fact a best of 6 pulls (with breaks to avoid heatsoak on the LSJ and COT mode on the LNF) I'd almost expect it to be 3 and 3 but that's in a perfect world . Unfortunately someone is going to **** up during the race and the resulting post will turn into an LSJ or LNF fanboi fest as usual videos or not so I'll make my prediction now and await the outcome .
A stage 1 SS/SC will hang with a stock LNF from a roll. I have seen it happen.

A stage 2 SS/SC with bolt ons will beat a stock SS/TC pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Permafried-
Running sub 14s consistently is not the norm for a stock TC; the average time is somewhere in the ballpark of 14.02ish to 14.2 give or take. Are 13s obtainable, yes. Could someone at an average elevation go run these consistently with a stock TC, highly doubtful.

Based on track times of a stage 2 LSJ and those of a stock LNF this isn't going to be a walk in the park for the SC and the same goes for the TC regardless of whether or not NLS is used. Distances should be within the rear quarter panel in either direction; in fact a best of 6 pulls (with breaks to avoid heatsoak on the LSJ and COT mode on the LNF) I'd almost expect it to be 3 and 3 but that's in a perfect world . Unfortunately someone is going to **** up during the race and the resulting post will turn into an LSJ or LNF fanboi fest as usual videos or not so I'll make my prediction now and await the outcome .
I ran quite a few 13.9's bone stock... Lots of mis-information going on here.

Check the 1/4 mile thread, there are stock LNF's running 13.5-13.6's


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