War Stories Post your racing wins. CobaltSS.net does not support or encourage street racing. Be smart and take it to the track.

stage 2 sc balt vs stock ss/tc

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-27-2009, 12:32 PM
  #51  
Senior Member
 
SS4ME's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-13-05
Location: WI
Posts: 3,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe
Ok just asking. I figured they would all be in the same boat



See this is what people have in their head and its completely false
Well considering some nsrt-4s have run near mid-13 second passes stock, I'd say it's true.
Old 08-27-2009, 12:36 PM
  #52  
Senior Member
 
1BADSS/SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-16-05
Location: UNDER YOUR BED
Posts: 13,309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 07touringcoupe

See this is what people have in their head and its completely false
at the track, a stock NSRT4 can beat a stage 2 LSJ easily.

from a roll on the street, a stock NSRT4 would get beat pretty bad.
Old 08-27-2009, 12:38 PM
  #53  
New Member
 
IslangD's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-30-09
Location: ATX
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SS4ME
Hmm, I thought a stage 2 cobalt was about equal to a stock nsrt4.
I would say so. And I would say a TC is faster then both.
Old 08-27-2009, 01:00 PM
  #54  
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Staged07SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: NEPA
Posts: 14,331
Received 197 Likes on 175 Posts
Originally Posted by IslangD
I would say so. And I would say a TC is faster then both.
youre wrong.

a stage 2 ss/sc will beat a stock nsrt-4

bolt the gm stage 2 ss/sc and it will pull the ss/tc, and will give the nsrt-4 stage 2 a good run as well.

bolt the nsrt-4 stage 2, and it will beat both the stage 2 ss/sc and stock ss/tc.

bolt and tune a ss/tc .... nsrt-4 stage 2 will loose.

Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
A stage 1 SS/SC will hang with a stock LNF from a roll. I have seen it happen.

A stage 2 SS/SC with bolt ons will beat a stock SS/TC pretty good.
i agree with you.

Last edited by Staged07SS; 08-27-2009 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Old 08-27-2009, 01:03 PM
  #55  
Senior Member
 
Permafried-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-21-05
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 5,060
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
I ran quite a few 13.9's bone stock... Lots of mis-information going on here.

Check the 1/4 mile thread, there are stock LNF's running 13.5-13.6's
"Lots of misinformation"? I said it's not the norm, the 1/4 mile thread is a handful of examples of people who have bothered to post their times (some of them only their best) and are on the forums. Some people are obviously better drivers than others, some tracks are prepped better than others, etc. My post is based on my observations at the tracks around here this summer from numerous TCs; every single one on average has run within the range I provided with the exception of some exceptional runs that put them around 13.8/13.9 . I'm not saying it's impossible but I'm not going to make a prediction based on the best numbers I've seen, I'll go with the average .

Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
A stage 1 SS/SC will hang with a stock LNF from a roll. I have seen it happen.

A stage 2 SS/SC with bolt ons will beat a stock SS/TC pretty good.
The OPs post said only stage 2 so I went on that assumption. I agree with a bolted stage 2 SS/SC I stand little chance yet for being stock I have no issues with that . If someone put all that time and energy into their SC and it wasn't pulling me I'd be questioning their sanity and ability to drive the vehicle .
Old 08-27-2009, 01:32 PM
  #56  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
wantedSS/TC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-25-09
Location: Aston, PA
Posts: 11,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by roser4888
When i had just the stage 2 i ran a 14.1 @ 101mph and missed 3rd. The tc modles are suppose to run a 14.1 stock. Deff a stage 2 sc will beat a tc.
this is where you fail. see sig time for stock tc at 1/4 mile
Old 08-27-2009, 01:35 PM
  #57  
Former Vendor
iTrader: (6)
 
BYT*SS*TURBO's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-01-09
Location: NEPA/North NJ
Posts: 5,973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Permafried-
"Lots of misinformation"? I said it's not the norm, the 1/4 mile thread is a handful of examples of people who have bothered to post their times (some of them only their best) and are on the forums. Some people are obviously better drivers than others, some tracks are prepped better than others, etc. My post is based on my observations at the tracks around here this summer from numerous TCs; every single one on average has run within the range I provided with the exception of some exceptional runs that put them around 13.8/13.9 . I'm not saying it's impossible but I'm not going to make a prediction based on the best numbers I've seen, I'll go with the average .


The OPs post said only stage 2 so I went on that assumption. I agree with a bolted stage 2 SS/SC I stand little chance yet for being stock I have no issues with that . If someone put all that time and energy into their SC and it wasn't pulling me I'd be questioning their sanity and ability to drive the vehicle .
Sorry, I wasn't pointing out just you. There's a lot of mis informing on what these cars can do stock and plenty of people to back up they are faster then a 14.1 stock.
Old 08-27-2009, 01:39 PM
  #58  
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Staged07SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: NEPA
Posts: 14,331
Received 197 Likes on 175 Posts
Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Sorry, I wasn't pointing out just you. There's a lot of mis informing on what these cars can do stock and plenty of people to back up they are faster then a 14.1 stock.
the ss/tc is deff faster than 14.1 stock. just like the ss/sc is faster than 14.6 (the avg. 1/4 mile time) stock.
Old 08-27-2009, 01:46 PM
  #59  
Senior Member
 
Jazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-16-06
Location: Schweinfurt, Germany
Posts: 15,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Staged07SS
the ss/tc is deff faster than 14.1 stock. just like the ss/sc is faster than 14.6 (the avg. 1/4 mile time) stock.
Agreed..

My SS/SC bone stock ran a 14.2:
6.)Julex,14.29@99.60 w/2.19 60'
Old 08-27-2009, 01:46 PM
  #60  
Senior Member
 
Permafried-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-21-05
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 5,060
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Sorry, I wasn't pointing out just you. There's a lot of mis informing on what these cars can do stock and plenty of people to back up they are faster then a 14.1 stock.
No worries and I agree with you 100%; people need to do their research and be realistic (perhaps honest is a better word, the information and proof of is out there) about what our TCs are capable of stock in the right hands, under the right conditions, etc. . If I sounded like I was slamming the TC (or perhaps sounded ignorant) it was not intended to sound that way; what kinda TC owner would I be if did so intentionaly .
Old 08-27-2009, 02:14 PM
  #61  
Senior Member
 
1BADSS/SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-16-05
Location: UNDER YOUR BED
Posts: 13,309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jazer
Agreed..

My SS/SC bone stock ran a 14.2:
my buddy ran a 13.9 with only a CAI and exhaust on his SS/SC.
Old 08-27-2009, 02:15 PM
  #62  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
wantedSS/TC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-25-09
Location: Aston, PA
Posts: 11,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Driver mod in that case. What was his 60ft, trap?
Old 08-27-2009, 02:22 PM
  #63  
Senior Member
 
Jazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-16-06
Location: Schweinfurt, Germany
Posts: 15,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
my buddy ran a 13.9 with only a CAI and exhaust on his SS/SC.
Nice! Thats a really good run!
Old 08-27-2009, 02:25 PM
  #64  
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Staged07SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: NEPA
Posts: 14,331
Received 197 Likes on 175 Posts
the ss/sc stock is capable of running 13.9's for sure. things that limit the cars potential would be the shitty pirelli tires that came on it, and the terrible wheel hop that kills 60ft times.

hell a stock ss/tc can run 13.5's stock.
Old 08-27-2009, 02:40 PM
  #65  
Senior Member
 
1BADSS/SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-16-05
Location: UNDER YOUR BED
Posts: 13,309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC
Driver mod in that case. What was his 60ft, trap?

Sorry, forgot to mention DR's
Old 08-27-2009, 02:43 PM
  #66  
Senior Member
 
Jazer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-16-06
Location: Schweinfurt, Germany
Posts: 15,240
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Sorry, forgot to mention DR's
That'll do it, lol.
Old 08-27-2009, 03:00 PM
  #67  
Former Vendor
iTrader: (6)
 
BYT*SS*TURBO's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-01-09
Location: NEPA/North NJ
Posts: 5,973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
LOL! Oops and those sticky tires
Old 08-27-2009, 11:42 PM
  #68  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
06SS ALL DAY's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-01-08
Location: Philthydelphia, PA
Posts: 4,793
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by IslangD
Dude I just ran a Bolt on as in Header mid pipe catback intake Kpro RSX type S in my STOCK turbo Cobalt and got him by a car both runs.

A stock 08 SS Cobalt is a drivers race vs a 3.0 pulley intake header downpipe catback custom tuned Cobalt SS/SC.

A stage 2 cobalt makes like 230 WHP and 220WHQ a stock Turbo cobalt makes better power then that.

Plus my cobalt has no sunroof and I took out the spare/jack.

A Civic SI isn't touching a full bolt on tuned RSX Type S which weighs like 2850. Which lost to me by a car two times.

I also think its funny how all you guys are talking about et's yet you run from rolls. All that matters in the trap speed. The cobalt TC has trapped 104 STOCK. Guess what most Mustang Mach 1's trap stock ???? 104-105. Guess what most Ls1 GTO's trap stock 104-105.

Funny isn't it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30UxICiLlss
ok ur right im just lying for your entertainment and so is cobaltssredtint. ur totally right.
Old 08-28-2009, 01:06 AM
  #69  
New Member
 
IslangD's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-30-09
Location: ATX
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A stock TC >>> Then a Stage 2 ( NO BOLT ONS) SC >= Stock SRT-4

In other words

A stock TC > Stock SRT-4 / Thread.
Old 08-28-2009, 01:19 AM
  #70  
Senior Member
 
cobaltssredtint's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: PHILADELPHIA
Posts: 1,835
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06SS ALL DAY
ok ur right im just lying for your entertainment and so is cobaltssredtint. ur totally right.
now i guess he wants a video of it happenin....i will let kev know so he can run that stock tc again
Old 08-28-2009, 02:35 AM
  #71  
New Member
 
IslangD's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-30-09
Location: ATX
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ill find an SS/SC to run don't worry.
Old 08-28-2009, 07:13 AM
  #72  
Administrator
Administrator
Platinum Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Staged07SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-30-07
Location: NEPA
Posts: 14,331
Received 197 Likes on 175 Posts
Originally Posted by IslangD
A stock TC >>> Then a Stage 2 ( NO BOLT ONS) SC >= Stock SRT-4

In other words

A stock TC > Stock SRT-4 / Thread.
wrong.

you **** up even the slightest in your almighty stock ss/tc, and the stage 2 ss/sc (no bolt ons) will take you. that my friend = drivers race. i have seen it before, and wish my car was still stage 2 to prove it.
Old 08-28-2009, 09:53 AM
  #73  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
wantedSS/TC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-25-09
Location: Aston, PA
Posts: 11,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
which makes them a good race.
Old 08-28-2009, 09:57 AM
  #74  
Senior Member
 
1BADSS/SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-16-05
Location: UNDER YOUR BED
Posts: 13,309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by IslangD
A stock TC >>> Then a Stage 2 ( NO BOLT ONS) SC >= Stock SRT-4

In other words

A stock TC > Stock SRT-4 / Thread.
really?

I know of people who ran mid 13's in their stock NSRT4's. Can you do that?
Old 08-28-2009, 10:02 AM
  #75  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
wantedSS/TC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-25-09
Location: Aston, PA
Posts: 11,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
really?

I know of people who ran mid 13's in their stock NSRT4's. Can you do that?
I did. It's all a driver's race. Cars are equal in my mind. Driver mod is needed to make the most out of them


Quick Reply: stage 2 sc balt vs stock ss/tc



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 PM.