Two camaro races
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Yeah....but your also not saying about how many cars he had on you by the finish.
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my friends 94 camro runs 11.4 all day, and it's an auto....though it also has a bulit proof 383!
Beating an SS with a minor bolt ons.... highly unlikely
, LS1 engines are potent engines. Last dyno I was at about six of them with with whisper lids, and full exhaust were pushing 360rwhp to 390rwhp.
Of course I didn't care because my 96 LT1 put down 415rwhp that day
! Lol!
An auto may lose a bit off the line, because of stock gear ratios, but he would pull you in the end.
If you beat 'em then good for you
my friends 94 camaro runs 11.4 all day, and it's an auto....though it also has a bullet proof 383!
Beating an SS with a minor bolt ons.... highly unlikely , LS1 engines are potent engines. Last dyno I was at about six of them with with whisper lids, and full exhaust were pushing 360rwhp to 390rwhp.
Of course I didn't care because my 96 LT1 put down 415rwhp that day ! Lol!
An auto may lose a bit off the line, because of stock gear ratios, but he would pull you in the end.
If you beat 'em then good for you
Beating an SS with a minor bolt ons.... highly unlikely
, LS1 engines are potent engines. Last dyno I was at about six of them with with whisper lids, and full exhaust were pushing 360rwhp to 390rwhp.Of course I didn't care because my 96 LT1 put down 415rwhp that day
! Lol!An auto may lose a bit off the line, because of stock gear ratios, but he would pull you in the end.
If you beat 'em then good for you
my friends 94 camaro runs 11.4 all day, and it's an auto....though it also has a bullet proof 383!
Beating an SS with a minor bolt ons.... highly unlikely
, LS1 engines are potent engines. Last dyno I was at about six of them with with whisper lids, and full exhaust were pushing 360rwhp to 390rwhp.Of course I didn't care because my 96 LT1 put down 415rwhp that day
! Lol!An auto may lose a bit off the line, because of stock gear ratios, but he would pull you in the end.
If you beat 'em then good for you
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The Cobalt is around 3000 lbs vs the Camaro is 3500 max (which is prolly to much)
Thats quite a bit heavyer than the cobalt but not enough to make up the power difference.
You guys who are beating these LS1s when you are near stock are beating the driver not the car. There are alot of people that cant drive the car becuase they are much more difficult to launch and drive all around than most cars. Dont think that these cars cant and wont had you your ass with the right driver. With a good driver they are capeable of mid to low 13s stock. Also the guy that let off a 60 was a moron or not racing you. The only way Id let of at 60 is if some one put 10 car lengths on me by 60.
Fist the rule of thumb is every 100lbs lost = .1 sec on the 1/4
The Cobalt is around 3000 lbs vs the Camaro is 3500 max (which is prolly to much)
Thats quite a bit heavyer than the cobalt but not enough to make up the power difference.
You guys who are beating these LS1s when you are near stock are beating the driver not the car. There are alot of people that cant drive the car becuase they are much more difficult to launch and drive all around than most cars. Dont think that these cars cant and wont had you your ass with the right driver. With a good driver they are capeable of mid to low 13s stock. Also the guy that let off a 60 was a moron or not racing you. The only way Id let of at 60 is if some one put 10 car lengths on me by 60.
The Cobalt is around 3000 lbs vs the Camaro is 3500 max (which is prolly to much)
Thats quite a bit heavyer than the cobalt but not enough to make up the power difference.
You guys who are beating these LS1s when you are near stock are beating the driver not the car. There are alot of people that cant drive the car becuase they are much more difficult to launch and drive all around than most cars. Dont think that these cars cant and wont had you your ass with the right driver. With a good driver they are capeable of mid to low 13s stock. Also the guy that let off a 60 was a moron or not racing you. The only way Id let of at 60 is if some one put 10 car lengths on me by 60.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
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I ran 13.6's before I changed my Motor Mounts... with a ~2.3 60's. The Trans Am that I beat from a roll, was on the interstate... and he was automatic... hard to f@ck that up. I pulled away from him from the start... all the way up to 135mph. The SS probably let off at 60 because we were getting close to town... and like I said, i was pulling away. Pretty good too. And as I said in my kill story (New Motor Mounts vs Camaro SS), the SS spun his wheels pretty good on the take off... that is the only reason I was able to take 1 car on him @ 60mph. The Trans Am I raced, I was only pulling about an inch or two per second... I wasn't just walking away.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
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It's obvious that a lot of you guys know very little about LS1 F-bodies - it'll take a lot more than a couple "simple mods" to beat one driven by a driver that knows what he's doing. Race to 60? The 6-speed LS1 with stock 3.42's is just getting out of 1st gear at 60 *L*. I used to own a '98 (the weakest year for LS1's - even though GM never changed the published power ratings, they did gain power through various factory changes from '98 to '02), and bone stock it ran 13.5 at 105. After full exhaust and a tune it ran mid 12's at 115 on street tires. A friends BONE stock '02 SS has run a best of 13.0 at just shy of 110mph.
I'm not dissing anyone's kills, as anything can happen on the street. But those of you thinking a stock SS/SC is just a couple easy mods short of an LS1 F-body? Well you're just setting yourself up for some big time losses - but I doubt if those will be posted here.
I'm not dissing anyone's kills, as anything can happen on the street. But those of you thinking a stock SS/SC is just a couple easy mods short of an LS1 F-body? Well you're just setting yourself up for some big time losses - but I doubt if those will be posted here
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My buddy's LS1 Z28 with exhaust, cam and dr's ran a 11.9 or an 11.8..
I agree with you. I don't see why all these people are saying that a cobalt can't beat a ls1. It is not that hard. Of course if the ls1 is modified there is hardly a chance, but most that are modified are garage queens that hardly get driven. It is just like the srt4 story... you can't win blah blah blah. Ok fine. A couple of simple mods we just won. I would bet that from a roll a stock srt4 is just as fast as a stock ls1. I know this for a fact because I have friends that have those cars that have raced stock and the outcome is dead even. I've raced both in their car and in mine (driver switching) and same outcome every time. SRT4=WS6(96) with COBALT at both back bumpers. Moding your car to make up one car length is not that hard.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=mevsshaw.flv - Can't see all that well, but thats the SRT that I raced.
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As usual a couple of points.
1) LS1 powered F-bodies are fast cars, everybody knows that.
2) Staged cobalts are fast cars, everybody agrees with that. Especially USMCFieldMP's according to his mods. (nice car man)
3) Anything, and i mean ANYTHING can happen on the street. Some people either don't know how to or are afraid to push there car to its limits. Ask me about some things that i have seen on the street. You won't beleive me.
4) No car is unbeatable, and LS1's don't run perfectly every time.
Remember, when someone wins a top fuel or nascar race, nobody blaims the 2nd place guys lack of ability.
1) LS1 powered F-bodies are fast cars, everybody knows that.
2) Staged cobalts are fast cars, everybody agrees with that. Especially USMCFieldMP's according to his mods. (nice car man)
3) Anything, and i mean ANYTHING can happen on the street. Some people either don't know how to or are afraid to push there car to its limits. Ask me about some things that i have seen on the street. You won't beleive me.
4) No car is unbeatable, and LS1's don't run perfectly every time.
Remember, when someone wins a top fuel or nascar race, nobody blaims the 2nd place guys lack of ability.
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I ran 13.6's before I changed my Motor Mounts... with a ~2.3 60's. The Trans Am that I beat from a roll, was on the interstate... and he was automatic... hard to f@ck that up. I pulled away from him from the start... all the way up to 135mph. The SS probably let off at 60 because we were getting close to town... and like I said, i was pulling away. Pretty good too. And as I said in my kill story (New Motor Mounts vs Camaro SS), the SS spun his wheels pretty good on the take off... that is the only reason I was able to take 1 car on him @ 60mph. The Trans Am I raced, I was only pulling about an inch or two per second... I wasn't just walking away.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
P.S. USMC repped up...
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For every "SS/SC egdges out an LS1" thread that is posted here, there is probably 20 "LS1 rapes SS/SC" posted on an fbody website.
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I ran 13.6's before I changed my Motor Mounts... with a ~2.3 60's. The Trans Am that I beat from a roll, was on the interstate... and he was automatic... hard to f@ck that up. I pulled away from him from the start... all the way up to 135mph. The SS probably let off at 60 because we were getting close to town... and like I said, i was pulling away. Pretty good too. And as I said in my kill story (New Motor Mounts vs Camaro SS), the SS spun his wheels pretty good on the take off... that is the only reason I was able to take 1 car on him @ 60mph. The Trans Am I raced, I was only pulling about an inch or two per second... I wasn't just walking away.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
You are underestimating my car... a car you know nothing about. You've never seen my car... never seen my Dyno sheet. There is no reason to lie about beating these cars. I gain nothing from lying to a bunch of strangers that I beat a car. There is no reason to lie... so I don't. As a Marine, I pride myself on my Integrity, please don't question it.
What I dont like seeing is faster car being looked at like they are no big deal just like you guys dont like V6 stangs and other cars thinking your cars are no big deal. If you won congrats but dont think itll happen every time.
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why do people jump all over anyone when they post up a win.... theres always at least 1 person in a thread that has to be the dick.. i mean come on... im sure you have had some questionable wins? everybody has... hell i beat a modded talon tsi from a dig by 1 car and a roll about 4 times COMPLETELY STOCK, i know i should have beat him by any means but i did... anything can happen on the streets...
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why do people jump all over anyone when they post up a win.... theres always at least 1 person in a thread that has to be the dick.. i mean come on... im sure you have had some questionable wins? everybody has... hell i beat a modded talon tsi from a dig by 1 car and a roll about 4 times COMPLETELY STOCK, i know i should have beat him by any means but i did... anything can happen on the streets...
Hey I could be an @$$ Hole about only being behind two car lengths of a 355hp LT1... Mine has 415rwhp, and I've blown the doors off of modded Srt4's and Cobalt SS/SC way more than a couple cars.
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You also have to take into consideration that you are on a Cobalt website. People are rarely going to post there losses but are going to post everything that even vaguely resembles a win.
For every "SS/SC egdges out an LS1" thread that is posted here, there is probably 20 "LS1 rapes SS/SC" posted on an fbody website.
For every "SS/SC egdges out an LS1" thread that is posted here, there is probably 20 "LS1 rapes SS/SC" posted on an fbody website.
That is very true....you also never know what was up with the other driver
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You also have to take into consideration that you are on a Cobalt website. People are rarely going to post there losses but are going to post everything that even vaguely resembles a win.
For every "SS/SC egdges out an LS1" thread that is posted here, there is probably 20 "LS1 rapes SS/SC" posted on an fbody website.
For every "SS/SC egdges out an LS1" thread that is posted here, there is probably 20 "LS1 rapes SS/SC" posted on an fbody website.
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That's what I was thinking! Since he has a "real" car you think he would be over trolling on LS1 forums. He must be sick of getting raped by them so he is trolling for smaller, easier pray? What is with 80% of Mustang owners?!
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well its like they say, people hate what they fear... i guess i would be upset if my v8 got beat by a 4 banger. I hate to say it but as much as i dislike honduhs there are a few in orange park that would make 90% of these v8 guys cry. nasty nasty little cars. as for me I race for ***** and giggles not to dog on everybody elses cars if i win yay! if not oh well yay! for the other guy.
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Over the past week I have raced two camaros...both from a dead stop
Thursday i raced an 94 lt1 with a license plate that said 355 hp...lol that one beat me by about 2.5 cars. He is a real nice guy that goes to the same college that I go to and one day i was walking to my car and he was like sharp car dude. I said same to ya. (it sounds ******* hot). I just happened to run into him on the road and took the opportunity and ran with it. He stopped after we ran and he was like damn dude I usually dont have to try to beat other cars but I had to give her hell for this one! *slight ego boost*
Today I raced a black ss (99-02) somewhere in there I dont know what kind of mods he has but he had exhaust for sure. We were at a red light and i saw him eye balling my car so I nodded...he nodded back and revved. The light turns green...we both go at it...I got a perfect launch (perfect for me anyways) when i shifted to second my nose was at his rear bumper...by the time I hit 75 in 3rd gear where we let off his nose was at MY back bumper. The douche bag didnt want to talk or acknowledge me after that so I dont have any idea exactly what his car was but it was definately a v8 and it had real looking ss badges. Im 99.9% sure it was an auto too.
Thursday i raced an 94 lt1 with a license plate that said 355 hp...lol that one beat me by about 2.5 cars. He is a real nice guy that goes to the same college that I go to and one day i was walking to my car and he was like sharp car dude. I said same to ya. (it sounds ******* hot). I just happened to run into him on the road and took the opportunity and ran with it. He stopped after we ran and he was like damn dude I usually dont have to try to beat other cars but I had to give her hell for this one! *slight ego boost*
Today I raced a black ss (99-02) somewhere in there I dont know what kind of mods he has but he had exhaust for sure. We were at a red light and i saw him eye balling my car so I nodded...he nodded back and revved. The light turns green...we both go at it...I got a perfect launch (perfect for me anyways) when i shifted to second my nose was at his rear bumper...by the time I hit 75 in 3rd gear where we let off his nose was at MY back bumper. The douche bag didnt want to talk or acknowledge me after that so I dont have any idea exactly what his car was but it was definately a v8 and it had real looking ss badges. Im 99.9% sure it was an auto too.
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well its like they say, people hate what they fear... i guess i would be upset if my v8 got beat by a 4 banger. I hate to say it but as much as i dislike honduhs there are a few in orange park that would make 90% of these v8 guys cry. nasty nasty little cars. as for me I race for ***** and giggles not to dog on everybody elses cars if i win yay! if not oh well yay! for the other guy.
See its cocky **** like that, that makes V8 guys look down on you guys. Then you bring up other cars that can beat all these V8 cars well guess what I can show you some V8s that can beat those Hondas so whats your point. Dont get me wrong the Cobalt SS/SC is a quick car no doubt about it but to say V8s fear this car come on. Ive seen only a hand full of them in the high 12s where any car with a V8 high 12s is average at best if not slow.