Y R all the GTO vs SS Threads Locked ?
08-18-2007, 04:04 AM
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I love these threads. You can tell the level of maturity but what is said in a highly contested thread.
I got into on this topic a while back with a few folks. I know of a cobalt I tuned that can edge out a 6.0 GTO that is basicly stock here locally. Maybe he takes em by a car at 100. It isn't totally impossible, but it isn't likely as often as threads pop up around here about someone beating a GTO. As soon as someone starts modding a 6.0 it is pretty much game over unless the cobalt is running every mod in the world and some juice.
A V8 and a LSJ are just two totally different classes of vehicle. Nothing wrong with it. If I had a 4 cylinder that would run anywhere near a V8 I would be proud of it. Let's face it though, 90% of the kill stories regardless of what forum they are in are bullshit anyway. No need to get overly excited about it, most of us can sort through the bs and tell what is real and what isnt
I got into on this topic a while back with a few folks. I know of a cobalt I tuned that can edge out a 6.0 GTO that is basicly stock here locally. Maybe he takes em by a car at 100. It isn't totally impossible, but it isn't likely as often as threads pop up around here about someone beating a GTO. As soon as someone starts modding a 6.0 it is pretty much game over unless the cobalt is running every mod in the world and some juice.
A V8 and a LSJ are just two totally different classes of vehicle. Nothing wrong with it. If I had a 4 cylinder that would run anywhere near a V8 I would be proud of it. Let's face it though, 90% of the kill stories regardless of what forum they are in are bullshit anyway. No need to get overly excited about it, most of us can sort through the bs and tell what is real and what isnt
08-19-2007, 11:35 AM
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Yeah, it was changed. Here's the list:
If the fuel economy of the model type in which the automobile falls is:
The tax is:
At least 22.5 $0
At least 21.5 but less than 22.5 1,000
At least 20.5 but less than 21.5 1,300
At least 19.5 but less than 20.5 1,700
At least 18.5 but less than 19.5 2,100
At least 17.5 but less than 18.5 2,600
At least 16.5 but less than 17.5 3,000
At least 15.5 but less than 16.5 3,700
At least 14.5 but less than 15.5 4,500
At least 13.5 but less than 14.5 5,400
At least 12.5 but less than 13.5 6,400
Less than 12.5 7,700.
Got it from here:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...4----000-.html
If the fuel economy of the model type in which the automobile falls is:
The tax is:
At least 22.5 $0
At least 21.5 but less than 22.5 1,000
At least 20.5 but less than 21.5 1,300
At least 19.5 but less than 20.5 1,700
At least 18.5 but less than 19.5 2,100
At least 17.5 but less than 18.5 2,600
At least 16.5 but less than 17.5 3,000
At least 15.5 but less than 16.5 3,700
At least 14.5 but less than 15.5 4,500
At least 13.5 but less than 14.5 5,400
At least 12.5 but less than 13.5 6,400
Less than 12.5 7,700.
Got it from here:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...4----000-.html
08-19-2007, 01:23 PM
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And I have had a B&M in my 03 Mustang GT , OE Hurst in my 2000 Camaro SS and a B&M in my 1991 Mustang GT.
It's just easier to blame terrible shifts on a shifter than to admit you suck.
08-19-2007, 02:48 PM
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Having driven several M6's, I didn't find the stock shifter that bad at all, I think it is better then a SRT's stock setup...
I can't say if a aftermarket shifter is better, you would hope so, but the stock unit isn't that shabby, atleast not to me..
08-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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I bought my car used with a B&M and have broken it 3 times now.....
I've tried a stock one, and the B&M is still an upgrade as long as it stays together.....
I'm buying a different shifter soon....
I've tried a stock one, and the B&M is still an upgrade as long as it stays together.....
I'm buying a different shifter soon....
08-19-2007, 03:59 PM
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There is an update kit available for the B&M.
As for the stock shifter in a GTO it's much better than the spoon in a honey pot feeling F-Body shifters. A shifter in a GTO is a " to say I have it " or " I suck at shifting " modification. As for a 99-04 Mustang it's a must have piece.
As for the stock shifter in a GTO it's much better than the spoon in a honey pot feeling F-Body shifters. A shifter in a GTO is a " to say I have it " or " I suck at shifting " modification. As for a 99-04 Mustang it's a must have piece.
08-19-2007, 04:10 PM
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LOL. I testdrove a mustang before getting my current car. it was an 01, on their used lot. I was like "WTF! Did they just take the shifter out of the Ranger and use it here?" The sales guy found that hilarious. Said he was glad that he wasn't the only one that wondered that exact same thing.
08-19-2007, 05:48 PM
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There is an update kit available for the B&M.
As for the stock shifter in a GTO it's much better than the spoon in a honey pot feeling F-Body shifters. A shifter in a GTO is a " to say I have it " or " I suck at shifting " modification. As for a 99-04 Mustang it's a must have piece.
As for the stock shifter in a GTO it's much better than the spoon in a honey pot feeling F-Body shifters. A shifter in a GTO is a " to say I have it " or " I suck at shifting " modification. As for a 99-04 Mustang it's a must have piece.
08-19-2007, 10:23 PM
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08-20-2007, 02:19 PM
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I have the "updated" B&M in mine. Needless to say the bolts have snapped in it 4 times and that has left us driving home stuck in fourth (always fun!)
The stock shifter will be going back in ASAP.
The stock shifter will be going back in ASAP.
08-20-2007, 02:35 PM
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There is an update kit available for the B&M.
As for the stock shifter in a GTO it's much better than the spoon in a honey pot feeling F-Body shifters. A shifter in a GTO is a " to say I have it " or " I suck at shifting " modification. As for a 99-04 Mustang it's a must have piece.
As for the stock shifter in a GTO it's much better than the spoon in a honey pot feeling F-Body shifters. A shifter in a GTO is a " to say I have it " or " I suck at shifting " modification. As for a 99-04 Mustang it's a must have piece.
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08-20-2007, 04:15 PM
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I'm going to end up buying a GMM or billet products soon...other parts keep taking my money though Good looking engine covers up there...now buy a BMR strut brace, lol.... don't know if it helped handling at all but it looks pretty bitchin....
08-20-2007, 06:14 PM
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I bought my car used, WISH I still had the stock shifter I'm going to end up buying a GMM or billet products soon...other parts keep taking my money though
Good looking engine covers up there...now buy a BMR strut brace, lol.... don't know if it helped handling at all but it looks pretty bitchin....
I'm going to end up buying a GMM or billet products soon...other parts keep taking my money though Good looking engine covers up there...now buy a BMR strut brace, lol.... don't know if it helped handling at all but it looks pretty bitchin....
I have a BMR and it helped a little and it also looks so much better.
08-21-2007, 05:56 PM
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Dang I thought you meant mine.
Do you have the BMR brace too?
I am seriously just going to put my own decal on the Bar, I don't want it red like that one, I like the black.
I want to change all of my gauges out to Inverted polarization and Black and Red......Mmmmm
I am seriously just going to put my own decal on the Bar, I don't want it red like that one, I like the black.
I want to change all of my gauges out to Inverted polarization and Black and Red......Mmmmm
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