Project Super SAAB (SWAP)
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Joemaster, if you get closer in the build i might be able to help you out over some weekends. im not too familiar with motor swaps but im sure you could use an extra hand from time to time
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thanks man ill defiantly keep u in mind when that time comes. Just had results of my Motor i was going to have rebuilt. 2600 for it to be built back to OEM. I F'd up my Crankshaft, 1 Connecing rod. was told the head was fine and the block and sleeves but alot needed to be replaced so im defiantly doing the swap once i get enough money to get it.
#108
*Update*
Car has been running great. No issues at all really. I still have yet to correctly time the camshaft position sensor, so sometimes it takes a little to start, but nothing crazy.
Getting 18-20mpg on E85 tuned at 25* and I'm always on it.
Plugs are gaped at .37-.38 and it runs SMOOTH.
Going to go to a 2.7 pulley, Phenolic Spacer, and Dual Pass all at once.
Hoping to get numbers into 300whp. But we shall see. Dyno sometime this summer, unsure of when my group dyno is.
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Car has been running great. No issues at all really. I still have yet to correctly time the camshaft position sensor, so sometimes it takes a little to start, but nothing crazy.
Getting 18-20mpg on E85 tuned at 25* and I'm always on it.
Plugs are gaped at .37-.38 and it runs SMOOTH.
Going to go to a 2.7 pulley, Phenolic Spacer, and Dual Pass all at once.
Hoping to get numbers into 300whp. But we shall see. Dyno sometime this summer, unsure of when my group dyno is.
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Last edited by bratboy90; 06-12-2012 at 08:50 PM.
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*Update*
Car has been running great. No issues at all really. I still have yet to correctly time the camshaft position sensor, so sometimes it takes a little to start, but nothing crazy.
Getting 18-20mpg on E85 tuned at 25* and I'm always on it.
Plugs are gaped at .37-.38 and it runs SMOOTH.
Going to go to a 2.7 pulley, Phenolic Spacer, and Dual Pass all at once.
Hoping to get numbers into 300whp. But we shall see. Dyno sometime this summer, unsure of when my group dyno is.
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Car has been running great. No issues at all really. I still have yet to correctly time the camshaft position sensor, so sometimes it takes a little to start, but nothing crazy.
Getting 18-20mpg on E85 tuned at 25* and I'm always on it.
Plugs are gaped at .37-.38 and it runs SMOOTH.
Going to go to a 2.7 pulley, Phenolic Spacer, and Dual Pass all at once.
Hoping to get numbers into 300whp. But we shall see. Dyno sometime this summer, unsure of when my group dyno is.
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Do you know if the Saab ex cam hex timing is correct for the LSJ's cam sensor? Saab's don't need a timed hex insert, so maybe that's why your cam sensor is off. Not sure...
Ow, and read some specs of the B207 cams and your 207-R cams are pretty close to the LSJ spec so not much HP loss there. (a bit less lift than the LSJ's and slightly different timing.)
The cams of a B207-L engine however is much softer than the R and will probably make (a lot) less HP when supercharged...
#111
Do you know if the Saab ex cam hex timing is correct for the LSJ's cam sensor? Saab's don't need a timed hex insert, so maybe that's why your cam sensor is off. Not sure...
Ow, and read some specs of the B207 cams and your 207-R cams are pretty close to the LSJ spec so not much HP loss there. (a bit less lift than the LSJ's and slightly different timing.)
The cams of a B207-L engine however is much softer than the R and will probably make (a lot) less HP when supercharged...
Ow, and read some specs of the B207 cams and your 207-R cams are pretty close to the LSJ spec so not much HP loss there. (a bit less lift than the LSJ's and slightly different timing.)
The cams of a B207-L engine however is much softer than the R and will probably make (a lot) less HP when supercharged...
#114
So, 2.7 is on with E85. Pulls great. 3rd feels like a damn rocket, no more faceplant feel.
Virtual Dyno is claiming 297whp and 260wtq. Hoping to get on a dyno this saturday(maybe).
NEW VIDEO's:
Before 40-70mph:
Takes about 4 seconds
Cobalt SS/SC 3.0 E85 2nd Gear 40-70mph - YouTube
After40-70mph:
Takes about 3.4 seconds
Cobalt SS 40-70 E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
After 40-105mph:
Takes about 10 seconds
Random misfire around 5k in 3rd gear. Can't figure out why. No KR, no timing change, nothing weird. Fuel pressure remains. Meh, new plugs might fix er sometime.
Cobalt SS 40-105mph E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Virtual Dyno is claiming 297whp and 260wtq. Hoping to get on a dyno this saturday(maybe).
NEW VIDEO's:
Before 40-70mph:
Takes about 4 seconds
Cobalt SS/SC 3.0 E85 2nd Gear 40-70mph - YouTube
After40-70mph:
Takes about 3.4 seconds
Cobalt SS 40-70 E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
After 40-105mph:
Takes about 10 seconds
Random misfire around 5k in 3rd gear. Can't figure out why. No KR, no timing change, nothing weird. Fuel pressure remains. Meh, new plugs might fix er sometime.
Cobalt SS 40-105mph E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Last edited by bratboy90; 07-10-2012 at 06:03 PM.
#115
So, 2.7 is on with E85. Pulls great. 3rd feels like a damn rocket, no more faceplant feel.
Virtual Dyno is claiming 297whp and 260wtq. Hoping to get on a dyno this saturday(maybe).
NEW VIDEO's:
Before 40-70mph:
Cobalt SS/SC 3.0 E85 2nd Gear 40-70mph - YouTube
After40-70mph:
Cobalt SS 40-70 E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
After 40-105mph:
Cobalt SS 40-105mph E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
Thanks,
Bratboy90
Virtual Dyno is claiming 297whp and 260wtq. Hoping to get on a dyno this saturday(maybe).
NEW VIDEO's:
Before 40-70mph:
Cobalt SS/SC 3.0 E85 2nd Gear 40-70mph - YouTube
After40-70mph:
Cobalt SS 40-70 E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
After 40-105mph:
Cobalt SS 40-105mph E85 2.7 Pulley - YouTube
Thanks,
Bratboy90
#120
Here's some video's of the car out on the racetrack. No drag racing yet sorry, but good video of me tearing it up on some nice cars out on a real track.
Oh, Dual Pass, Phenolic Spacer, and 2.7 Pulley are now on!! WOOT!!!
CLICK-VVVVVVVVVV-CLICK
Super Saab Cobalt SS B.I.R. - YouTube
CLICK-^^^^^^^^^-CLICK
Oh, Dual Pass, Phenolic Spacer, and 2.7 Pulley are now on!! WOOT!!!
CLICK-VVVVVVVVVV-CLICK
Super Saab Cobalt SS B.I.R. - YouTube
CLICK-^^^^^^^^^-CLICK
#121
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Thanks!!!!
I was making about 250whp, but a combo of me being an idiot and a bad tune lead to a blown cyl. Not the cars fault at all, my mind making assumptions lead to its death.
I'm looking to be at AT LEAST 280whp on E85, hoping to reach 300whp and I'll do what I need to get there, but I won't go past that without selling the car and buying a rwd/awd car.
I agree, Supercharged show a linear graph with steady hp/tq levels. Turbo's tend to have a big difference in power between the rpms which the supercharger is solid almost a straight line of power to peak rpms.
I was making about 250whp, but a combo of me being an idiot and a bad tune lead to a blown cyl. Not the cars fault at all, my mind making assumptions lead to its death.
I'm looking to be at AT LEAST 280whp on E85, hoping to reach 300whp and I'll do what I need to get there, but I won't go past that without selling the car and buying a rwd/awd car.
I agree, Supercharged show a linear graph with steady hp/tq levels. Turbo's tend to have a big difference in power between the rpms which the supercharger is solid almost a straight line of power to peak rpms.
#125
I might be doing a ported, cam'd, and valvespring head sometime. I'll update this thread if/when it happens. I'm also checking with a fellow member on here about the tone ring on the B207R crank vs the LSJ crank to see if that's why the CEL is being throw. Still, it's a great running motor.