2.0 TurboSystem: How would YOU want it?
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for me personally i'd like to have the whole kit-n-kaboodle with the Super 20G turbo. so i'm saying Level V, i like the idea of getting a complete kit to where all i have to do is swap it over from supercharged to turbocharged. my goal is to get to as close as possible to the 400whp safely on stock internals.
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You may not be well served by the turbo exhaust outlet housing on its own...it's not compatible with stock-type downpipes, and requires its own unique downpipe. But it's a downpipe you may well be able to make yourself if you are a fab-savvy type!
We have no immediate plans to offer the MAF mounting flanges...but if the market dictates, we may! An interesting request.
Super 20G is internally wastegated for OEM durability and outstanding affordability. We've used this internal wastegate system on everything from low nine-seond FWD cars to eight-second streetbikes...with stellar success!
We have no immediate plans to offer the MAF mounting flanges...but if the market dictates, we may! An interesting request.
Super 20G is internally wastegated for OEM durability and outstanding affordability. We've used this internal wastegate system on everything from low nine-seond FWD cars to eight-second streetbikes...with stellar success!
MAF bung availability FTW! If not, I know where I can score one easily anyhow.
In comparison, how fast will the Super 20G spool compared to my Integra's old Small 16G or it's new EVO III 16G? I get full spool at or just a hair below 3500rpms. Thanks again.
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intake mani is bad f'n ass. that is all.
and Bill glad you are taking this approach... I figured you would after our conversation the other night.
Should work out well due to the diverse amount of experience of people in the cobalt community
and Bill glad you are taking this approach... I figured you would after our conversation the other night.
Should work out well due to the diverse amount of experience of people in the cobalt community
good ones lol.
well since the 20g is good to 500+hp or so... should be in the high 300's (properly tuned of course) also depends on how hard you want to push the car.
oh yeah 2k, the 20g's are internally gated
well since the 20g is good to 500+hp or so... should be in the high 300's (properly tuned of course) also depends on how hard you want to push the car.
oh yeah 2k, the 20g's are internally gated
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What can we push on a stock engine? I know Paul(?) is pushing 411whp on stock engine but sounds risky to me. Where could I safely push with just ARP studs and headgasket (do we even need to change our headgasket?). Bill Hahn just stopped me from selling my cobalt lol.
Originally Posted by EB
I think level 3 with the pcm calibration would be the most popular. Base the tune off of someone using the stock Intake manifold.
As it stands right now there would be a large price increase from Level 3 to Level 4 because of the cost of the intake manifold. Correct?
As it stands right now there would be a large price increase from Level 3 to Level 4 because of the cost of the intake manifold. Correct?
Correct. And there is one significant aspect that really offsets the cost of the StreetRace intake manifold...in using one, you gain the ability to sell off your ENTIRE supercharger system, including:
Plus, you gain the following additional advantages:
- Supercharger
- Intake manifold w/integral intercooler
- Intercooler core, pump, hoses
- Belt drive system complete
Plus, you gain the following additional advantages:
- Lighter weight (all that stuff is HEAVY!)
- Superior airflow and cylinder-to-cylinder distribution (the stock intake setup sufffers badly in this aspect)
- Easier underhood servicing (there's SO much more room with that big chunk removed from the front of the engine!)
- Ability to employ PortFueler for mega-high HP combined with good street manners and predictable, consistent tuning
- Outstanding underhood presence (sure, the stock SC looks good, but our manifold is a bit of TIG-welded CNC-billet artwork!)
- Better radiator performance, cooler operation (removing the stock IC core really enhances radiator airflow, even improving AC efficiency!)
I should know. I just bought a IM for nothing.
And check out this ebay auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...234577167&rd=1
That is a Brand New IM and SC and it only demanded $612 in bids.
If I were to buy a turbo kit from you I wouldn't want to add $1000 to the cost just for the intake manifold. Instead, I would gut the stock unit and call it a day.
But keep up the good work. I wish you were around a year ago before I bought my car because I would have bought a used LSJ and purchased one of your kits.
stock engine should handle 350whp fine. I've been over that for the last few months, put on 7k miles and no issues with the motor itself... it even survived a few seconds at 30psi accidently lol.
stock headgasket is an MLS anyway, so it's not bad... issue really is with the stock head bolts, which so far, seem to be holding just fine for me.
stock headgasket is an MLS anyway, so it's not bad... issue really is with the stock head bolts, which so far, seem to be holding just fine for me.
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^^350whp sounds good enough to mee! Thanks alot for the info. Anything else to consider? Gonna do the headbolts just for my piece of mind.
P.S. Definitely stage V for me
P.S. Definitely stage V for me
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Full boost will be available in the low-to-mid 3000 RPM range. This is the primary reason our Super 20G has enjoyed such popularity in other applications...its ability to support up to 500 engine HP while still maintaining excellent street manners and usable power is much appreciated by its owners! Many is the story of people taking less sophisticated, laggier turbos off in favor of Super 20G.
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Bill, I have a question that may or may not have been addressed. After the loss of my cobalt i've been removed from the market for a turbo kit, but i was a cobalt ss ownner none the less.
For the do-it-yourselfer, oil changes were a pain in the butt. how does the street race manifold affect acessibility to the oil filter?
On a side note:
I'm contemplating buying a used '06 Cobalt SS S/C to fill the void in my heart (my first ever brand new car - stolen
) if this kit is as effective as i hope it will be, because i have no intention of doing pulley changes this time around. As someone said earlier in the thread "All or Nothing"
For the do-it-yourselfer, oil changes were a pain in the butt. how does the street race manifold affect acessibility to the oil filter?
On a side note:
I'm contemplating buying a used '06 Cobalt SS S/C to fill the void in my heart (my first ever brand new car - stolen
) if this kit is as effective as i hope it will be, because i have no intention of doing pulley changes this time around. As someone said earlier in the thread "All or Nothing"
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Bill, I have a question that may or may not have been addressed. After the loss of my cobalt i've been removed from the market for a turbo kit, but i was a cobalt ss ownner none the less.
For the do-it-yourselfer, oil changes were a pain in the butt. how does the street race manifold affect acessibility to the oil filter?
On a side note:
I'm contemplating buying a used '06 Cobalt SS S/C to fill the void in my heart (my first ever brand new car - stolen ) if this kit is as effective as i hope it will be, because i have no intention of doing pulley changes this time around. As someone said earlier in the thread "All or Nothing"
For the do-it-yourselfer, oil changes were a pain in the butt. how does the street race manifold affect acessibility to the oil filter?
On a side note:
I'm contemplating buying a used '06 Cobalt SS S/C to fill the void in my heart (my first ever brand new car - stolen
) if this kit is as effective as i hope it will be, because i have no intention of doing pulley changes this time around. As someone said earlier in the thread "All or Nothing"We specifically engineered the StreetRace manifold to enable reasonable oil filter access. Fact is, it's actually much improved over the stock SC and manifold. Thanks for asking, that's a feature I'd not touted just yet
!Yes sir, get that SS/SC, and take FULL advantage of this outstanding LSJ engine with one of our TurboSystems!
Here's the things
Will it fit to stock location exhaust
Will pistons handle
Will clutch handle
Will the Axles handle
How is the tune and what size injectors are we gettin 79s, what about the fuel pump
I seriously plan to get the Level 5 if it's affordable. I just want to know what im gettin myself into...
Will it fit to stock location exhaust
Will pistons handle
Will clutch handle
Will the Axles handle
How is the tune and what size injectors are we gettin 79s, what about the fuel pump
I seriously plan to get the Level 5 if it's affordable. I just want to know what im gettin myself into...
