So I know someone selling a real cheap nitrous kit, I was thinking like a 25 shot to just cool things down post blower with something like this

http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/..._Code=LSJ_Fuel

would just a dry 25 shot be good for this, i really dont know that much about the giggle gas

 

But you just got the tvs??? Are you going to run it with the tvs?

 

nitrous will increase your cylinder temps not decrease them

meth would be what you want if you want to cool things

 

already have meth , just looking for max power

 

You would barely notice a 25 shot. I'd say a 50 shot. There are actually quite a few 2.9"-2.8" + 50 shot cobalts out there runnin over 300 whp and have been for a while with no problems.

 

yes!=)

 

NO! Nitrous BAD! There is also the possibility the nitrous could freeze the water from the meth injection which would be JuJu!

 

Don't run N02, run a meth kit for sure. If you plan on getting forged internal, thats when you go with some N02.

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/nitrous-oxide-51/can-i-run-water-methanol-injection-my-nitrous-injection-108773/
Here is all the info on this you need.
short story, yes, Nitro+meth=good!

 

Maybe in a fully ridiculously built race engine, made specifically for drag racing

I think what you meant to say was Nitrous+meth=good

 

Nitromethane is god.

 

Yes, unfortunately its the devil on engine parts

 

Pfff, I'll be laughing at you for the 3 seconds my engine runs 3000whp on stock internals.

 

Until the internals decided to eviscerate everyone in a 200 yard radius like a 2.2L shrapnel bomb

 

For those 3 seconds I'd be the alpha and the omega

 

please explain to me how nitrous is bad on an engine that is tuned for it please?

 

Nitrous can be great on an engine that is tuned properly for it. No doubt that it is quite a good bang for the buck. I personally like having consistant power however, pull after pull without having to worry how much juice is still in my bottle. My theory is a car is only as fast as it is off the bottle in the long run. Yeah sure you can do a few great pulls, but when the bottle is empty you're not going to take the car that is consistantly making that power. Plus, once you add up the nitrous kit, bottle heater, remote opener, gauges, and those expensive fills you would have been better off spending the money on something that was more consistant and reliable. This is just my opinion though.

 

good point, but look at it this way...

I don't race 10 worthy cars in a row very often, and I get at least that many solid pulls on each $25 bottle refill. For when I need it, I have 300whp+, without changing anything else on the car for daily driving. I also only have $330 in my whole setup, with a bottle warmer. Very efficent way to make power, but it has limits like anything else.

 

Very true. You can get 10 pulls from one bottle? Also, where I'm at it's a lot more to fill a 10lb bottle. I think it was around $40-65ish. See both my Cobalt and my Integra are setup to pull hard and strong consistantly. I am not scared of cars spraying from my experience with them.

For example I had local guy call my me out to race his Integra GSR with full bolt ons and a 75 shot because he thought he was almighty. I let my buddy drive my Integra LS non-vtec that night at just 12-13psi with my self made turbo kit using a small 16g that cost me hardly anything, and it walked his car by bus lengths. Since then his motor has gone Kablooey as well, and all my Integra is still doing well except for the old tired stock clutch let go finally.

 

Ehh, like anything else, proper setups work better than ghetto ones. If your car is setup to work well, not saying that it cost a lot, but its done right, it will work. My car runs hard as **** on bottle, I was pulling 350whp Evos and such. One had a 20g on 22-23 psi and C16, only pulled me by 2 cars, due to clutch slip. If I get another run with him I will do better.

 

when your car has new pistons right? i had to

 

There is no reason not to spray. People who get lack luster results, have failures, or other problems with nitrous are either ignorant and set it up wrong, or careless. Nitrous only has a bad rep because of idiots an intelligent person who has done their homework can make a system run flawlessly forever.

BTW for those of you that don't know in a quartermile run you will typically use about a lb of nitrous for every 100 shot you run. Give or take a little. So a 10 lb bottle on a 50 shot will get you around 20 quartermile runs. Nitrous here in Western Illinois is 3.80$ a lb, down around St. Louis it's a little lower.

I've done about a half dozen nitrous installs on various cars from a Cobalt, STI, Mustang GT, LS1 Pro ET Camaro and a few others and none of them have ever had a failure and I guarantee none of them have been babied.

Again, set it up right and sit back an watch your competition get smaller in the rear view mirror.

 

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About the meth and N20.... go for it.
I know lots of DSM's running N20 and meth... good results... no freezing, and no major issues (besides the obvious tuning and such).

If people are really worried about the w/m freezing upon spray, I should point out that this is the least of your worries... your more likely to have the water condense from passing though the intercooler, than you are to have it crystalize from spray contact.

 

this thread has potential for fail. i'll sit back and watch.

 

thats why I said my car 'was' running good. It lasted longer than it should have, just like the stock clutch. I was running a .040 jet and heating the bottle over 1000psi, close to a 75 shot probably, and still on Stage 2 tune with a 2.8 and porting work, too much airflow for the car. It was only a matter of when.