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Can I run Water Methanol Injection With My Nitrous Injection?

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Old 04-25-2008, 12:43 PM
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Can I run Water Methanol Injection With My Nitrous Injection?

Recently here at AIS, two of the most asked questions by inquiring customers has been "Can I use water methanol injection with my nitrous oxide? And if so, what sort of benefits will it offer me?" Because of these inquiries, we decided to dedicate an article specifically for it to help answer and explain some of these common questions we receive concerning the use of water methanol injection with nitrous.

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very cool, great info!
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perfect...i was wondering about that myself
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_SSTuner
very cool, great info!
Thank you. Hopefully this helps others understand too.
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great artical.
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Originally Posted by widebody_balt_ss
great artical.
Thanks. How's your system working out?

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lol, still brand new. Guess you have not heard of my build yet? PM sent.
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Originally Posted by widebody_balt_ss
lol, still brand new. Guess you have not heard of my build yet? PM sent.
Just received your PM. Wow, your build has changed quite a bit since the last time we spoke.
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can i get a link to the best water/meth mixture for my nitrous set up with a 2.9 pulley please....because im very curious on what system to run, andwhat mixture would benefit me best
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
can i get a link to the best water/meth mixture for my nitrous set up with a 2.9 pulley please....because im very curious on what system to run, andwhat mixture would benefit me best
Give me a call directly so i can go over this with you. 1.801.447.2559 Ext 204
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Give me a call directly so i can go over this with you. 1.801.447.2559 Ext 204
hard to do now, because im at work, but is there any basic info that I could get?? like what mixture to run with my 90 shot??
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
hard to do now, because im at work, but is there any basic info that I could get?? like what mixture to run with my 90 shot??
Run 50/50 mix.
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from the article:
Together, water methanol injection serves to act as a substantial octane enhancer allowing 91-93 octane to perform like 110+ octane fuel.

so in theory, with gms3 on 93octane, could you run the high-octane mode with water/meth? i dont know much about this so someone please correct me if im wrong. thank you
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Originally Posted by AIS
Run 50/50 mix.
and where would i find this mixture??? i dont know too muc habout meth?? and what is the mixture of just windshield wiper fluid??
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Originally Posted by idunn
from the article:
Together, water methanol injection serves to act as a substantial octane enhancer allowing 91-93 octane to perform like 110+ octane fuel.

so in theory, with gms3 on 93octane, could you run the high-octane mode with water/meth? i dont know much about this so someone please correct me if im wrong. thank you
Yes, if you search around on this forum alone, you will find others doing just that. Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

Rodney

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and where would i find this mixture??? i dont know too muc habout meth?? and what is the mixture of just windshield wiper fluid??
Start with a 50/50 mix of water and methanol For more information about the various types of fluids you can use read our article "What Type Of Fluids Can I Use With My Water Methanol Injection System?" In it it goes over the various common fluids you can use and sources for where you can purchase them from.

Here's the link.

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html

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nice....so just to get things straight.

most people say its fairly safe to run a 50 shot on the gm stage 2 tune.

so with the addition of water/meth injection, would it be possible to run a 75 shot on the gm stage 2 tune without having to retard timing and change it?
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so all this bein said would i actually benefit using water/meth on my 2.2 with n2o?
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Could you run a wet nitrous system with only water/meth adding the fuel and not running a fuel nozzle at all? I wonder what kind of gains you'd see from a 50shot of nitrous running meth instead of fuel?
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about 25% less gain than you would see if you actually used the fuel also.. dont be dumb and use a wet kit without the wet. save your engine and use the fuel also...
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Originally Posted by MidnightNB
Could you run a wet nitrous system with only water/meth adding the fuel and not running a fuel nozzle at all? I wonder what kind of gains you'd see from a 50shot of nitrous running meth instead of fuel?
I know where your trying to go with this. However, you would want to run the nitrous system as it was intended. However, I have scene many who will run a wet nitrous system and will push methanol through the fuel side of it. They will do this by using a smaller separate tank (filled with methanol) and separate pump to feed the fuel side (normally gasoline) of their nitrous system. T=Methanol is used as it is a high octane fuel and allows the use of more timing (less timing retard for the nitrous) in their tune.

Originally Posted by lockdownlegend
nice....so just to get things straight.

most people say its fairly safe to run a 50 shot on the gm stage 2 tune.

so with the addition of water/meth injection, would it be possible to run a 75 shot on the gm stage 2 tune without having to retard timing and change it?
Quite possibly yes. However, this would need to be verified on the dyno to be safe rather then assuming it is and going ahead with it. Remember, you can also vary the water methanol mix in the tank to add more fuel if needed.

Originally Posted by yellowltcoupe22
so all this bein said would i actually benefit using water/meth on my 2.2 with n2o?
By just adding a water meth system alone without retuning for it. No power gains/safety gains yes as this will substantially push the onset of detonation further away. Thereby allowing you to then put the timing back into your tune that you would normally retard for the nitrous.

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