<img src="http://cobaltss.net/articles/55ss.jpg" align="left" border="0" hspace="5" vspace="2"><b>PHOENIX</b> - Well I went to Courtesy Chevrolet today in Phoenix, AZ to take a look at the Victory red Cobalt they had. Wow. That's all I can say. Feel free to ask me any questions...the car was amazing. These are links to High Resolution 4mp pictures. I went out and bought .mac today for $99 just so I could host these. Hope you all like them! Gallery#1 is exterior pics and has 27 pictures. Gallery#2 is Interior pics and oddly enough 27 pictures as well. So that really adds up to 54 pictures but I deleted one and 55 sounds so much better. Here's the main menu, cheers vendian:

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ALL THE IMAGES HAVE NOW BEEN WATERMARKED...BROWSE AT WILL!!! :cssNET:

From the looks of it you may be able to navigate to the other gallery at the top of the page. All you guys need to know is that that car is awesome...
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nice bro thanx for all the pics! :cssNET:

awesome pictures man!!! they answer a lot of questions people have had in the past and even now. congrats man, any clue who bought it?

No I don't know who bought it, and I did try to answer a ton of questions I had heard people talking about. I tried to take pictures of all the things that people were wondering about. The coin thing on the side of the steering wheel, the middle armrest, the front of the car shot from a low angle, the exhaust being chrome, the rear-wing, etc.

Ah man Im so amped right now !!!!!!!!!!!! I never knew the battery was in the trunk, now adding my 2 Alpine 12' subs will be all the more easier. thats my exact car but I got regular seats with red inserts. thanks !!!!!!!!

Ah man Im so amped right now !!!!!!!!!!!! I never knew the battery was in the trunk, now adding my 2 Alpine 12' subs will be all the more easier. thats my exact car but I got regular seats with red inserts. thanks !!!!!!!!

I found out about the battery being in the trunk awhile ago so I knew to look for it. I don't know shit about car stereo, but I knew that would be easier to wire with it back there...so that's pretty cool. I thought that pioneer speaker in the trunk was pretty big stock as it is too. I hope it's not some option.

I found out about the battery being in the trunk awhile ago so I knew to look for it. I don't know shit about car stereo, but I knew that would be easier to wire with it back there...so that's pretty cool. I thought that pioneer speaker in the trunk was pretty big stock as it is too. I hope it's not some option.


The Pioneer 10" sub is standard with the SS/SC :cssNET:

The Pioneer 10" sub is standard with the SS/SC :cssNET:

Sweet.

Wow, 55 pictures! Nice job!
I bet all those customers in the show room wore like: “WTF is up with that guy?” I was at the auto show tonight and took a ton as well :lol:

Wow, 55 pictures! Nice job!
I bet all those customers in the show room wore like: “WTF is up with that guy?” I was at the auto show tonight and took a ton as well :lol:

Acutally they didn't really care. There were some people looking at me weird that were buying cars but the salesmen were playing basketball in the corner. Talk about salespeople overkill. There were like another 15 in the parking lot in groups. I think the guy was a little dissapointed when I got out telling him I wanted to see the SS S/C. He just lead us to the door and left, lol. So all in all it was cool. I just took out my camera the second I got there and went at it. P.S. thanks for putting this on the front page.

I've encountered a few bored-looking salesmen at dealerships before, but I've never seen a salesman basketball game :lol:

so is there 2 batteries in the car then? or just easier to place it in rear? Be funny if u need to get a jump. :)

so is there 2 batteries in the car then? or just easier to place it in rear? Be funny if u need to get a jump. :)

just in the trunk. Its to even out the weight distribution

hi thanks for the pic's, man thats a big trunk, u can put big speakers back there. to bad im not into systems anymore, i would of put 3 12's in that trunk. i dont know my friend said if i don't have a system in my car u wont like it because u are used to the base don't, get me wrong i like my system in my car but, im 22 i think instead of puting a grand into a system like i did in my truck i thilnk i should make the cobaltss fast. :) alpines are the best well i got to get up at 4 am for a store meeting at home depot good night thanks for the awsome pics well its at 5 but i got to get up at 4 lol life is great huh lol :bow:

Thanks for all the pictures..... Even tho I'm getting the LS COUPE... It's ALMOST THE SAME THING...

I took a good look at the Bat. in the trunk, the trunk, back seats.... and.........


I like it...!! Just a question tho.... Was that battery strapped down?.. or help in place with a bracket? or Both??

If you enlarge the picture it looks like its strapped down and bolted down. Hooray.

awesome pics....I have some pics of a blue SS from the toronto autoshow...not nearly as good as these....does anyone know where I can put them?

wow i feel stupid. I just noticed it takes mobil 1 oil! sweet!

cool i didn't know the battery was in the truck on the Cobalt, i know the battery is in the truck on the Red Line quad coupe and there is another ternimal under the hood, so u can boost your car from either side. Those are great pics, thanks a lot, can't wait to take one out and test drive it, not that it matters, i'm buying one anyways

What's up with the horizontal grille up front and the mesh in the back? Hope mine doesn't get this treatment. :rolleyes:

These are truely awesome pictures thanx so much.



I like the placement of the antenna, *BEHIND* the sunroof.
I like how they didn't cover up the engine with some cheesy cover like GM has been with some cars.
The driving lights (sometimes called fog lights, but they aren't yellow) look sweet, good placement IMO.
The interior control look super cheap for a 20k car. the controls on my S10 look nicers and thats not saying much. The heater knobs look really cheap. I am dissapointed with that.
The plastic ebrake control looks even cheaper. That plastic weld line right down the top of it is fugly.
The dash as a whole looks good but that silver plastic molding sucks.
The gauge cluster looks nice. I am curious to what the driver info center looks like. I will miss the temp, oil, battery guages :cry:
The steering wheel with all the controls will be cool, never had that in a car b4.
Mirror with map lights also good.
All in all I wish they didn't cheap out on the controls, silver plastic dash thingy. Otherwise I think it's gonna be a great car. Love the outside.

Vendain again good job with the pictures they look great.

These are truely awesome pictures thanx so much.

I like the placement of the antenna, *BEHIND* the sunroof.

As for the antenna that's the XM satellite antenna behind the sunroof. The normal antenna is on the back rear quarter panel on the right hand side. If you look at the pictures of the rear of the car you can see it. I was digging through the instructions in the glove box and noticed the car had XM. So the regular antenna is just that long one. Just in case you didn't notice. :cssNET:

how come the XM in on back of roof, and on the Sunburt SS in Canada has the XM on the front of roof, weird!! whats up with that, sure this red SS aint pre prod

how come the XM in on back of roof, and on the Sunburt SS in Canada has the XM on the front of roof, weird!! whats up with that, sure this red SS aint pre prod


Ive never seen the XM radio antenna on the front of the roof, always on the back and thats how the SS/SC will be, weird.

There is no XM radio in Canada (yet) so they just use the antenna for onstar. Maybe that has something to do with it. Also, the Sunburst SS in Canada belongs to GM so it could be a pre-production/pilot.

sweet pics, good job, the recarros look cool definatly has the lsd on it thats just sweet, the interior looks slightly different. and no arm rest in the center console :mad:

First post here. I read somewhere that the back wing is so big that it can get in the way of seeing through the rear view mirror, do you think this is true?

^ ^ ^ that only wing that offers no view obstrution.... is no wing at all. ;)

how come the XM in on back of roof, and on the Sunburt SS in Canada has the XM on the front of roof, weird!! whats up with that, sure this red SS aint pre prod

THe XM antenna goes on the back of the roof and the OnStar antenna goes on the front of the roof. ?They are two different antennas. THe XM one is just a hump and I believe that the Onstar one has a little shaft that stick up off the top of the hump.

i guess to each his own, i dont think the "silver plastic" thing looks bad the SSR has it and i think is looks sweet!! the fog lights will be sweet on the ssr we had it seemed that the fog lights were brighter than the normal lights, the cobalts ss has the same fog lights! to bad they couldnt intergrate the FM anteena and the xm/onstar all in one :cry: other than that its alll gooD :D :D

First post here. I read somewhere that the back wing is so big that it can get in the way of seeing through the rear view mirror, do you think this is true? Just look at the pics I shot through the back window. I don't think the wing is going to be any problem at all. The wing on my Hyundai is worse than the one on this cobalt along the lines of obstructing your view. I didn't think it was bad at all.

I know it's a "safety" thing but those air bag warning labels are freaking ugly.

The interior control look super cheap for a 20k car. the controls on my S10 look nicers and thats not saying much. The heater knobs look really cheap. I am dissapointed with that.
The plastic ebrake control looks even cheaper. That plastic weld line right down the top of it is fugly.
The dash as a whole looks good but that silver plastic molding sucks.
The gauge cluster looks nice. I am curious to what the driver info center looks like. I will miss the temp, oil, battery guages

I think the reason everything looks cheaper is because of the camera flash in the low light. It makes every thing look shiny and cheap, and minor inperfections are magnified by this effect. Things like the hairline welds and plastic grains aren't nearly as noticable with normal lighting, in person ;)

I also like the silver center stack - without it, the interior would have a very plain/monotone look to it. It really adds to the overall appearance of the interior IMO.

As far as guages - everything the driver needs to know should be included in the driver information center. You probably can't read it as quickly as you would with an actual gauge, but its still there, and its much more accurate than any analog gauge could be - plus it really cleans up the appearance of the gauge cluster :cool:

Do You know by chance if they are releasing them across the US on march 7. I already ordered one and i cant wait till it gets here.

Its interesting that this car has the lsd and recaro's, and is not stickered for sale. This must be a GM rep's car to get the lsd when it was only made available for ordering 2/17.

btw with all of the discussion on antennas, I asked the Cadillac guys at the car show in Cleve on Saturday - the Caddies have one small integrated antenna that handles everything. Maybe this will trickle down to cars like the Cobalt for 2006.

Good job with those pics! I really like the battery in the trunk. A lot of my questions have been answered! Now I need to see a car with the coloured inserts.

funny Rear wheel drive cars you want bat in back lol

Its interesting that this car has the lsd and recaro's, and is not stickered for sale. This must be a GM rep's car to get the lsd when it was only made available for ordering 2/17.

btw with all of the discussion on antennas, I asked the Cadillac guys at the car show in Cleve on Saturday - the Caddies have one small integrated antenna that handles everything. Maybe this will trickle down to cars like the Cobalt for 2006.

Yeah, I tried pulling the VIN information (good idea for a pic btw) and no such vehicle exists for sale or has been sold by GM. There used to be a code in the VIN somewhere that designates it as a GM non-sale vehicle, but I have really only seen vehicles like that on the old Barret-Jackson Auto Auctions. Maybe someone with some additional info on that stuff would know more than I do.

As for the dual antenna thingy, it's also on the 2005 Impala (and Monte's to I believe). It is a single unit with both the "hump" and the "stick thingy" and it sits at the very backside of the roof panel, just in front of the rear windshield. It's bulky and much more expensive than the other two put together. The only reason it's on the Impalas is because all 2005 Impalas have OnStar standard, so they might as well use it. Once OnStar becomes standard on more vehicles (i.e. every GM full-size SUV built after today) you'll see that antenna more. But, since it's still an option on the Cobalt, I doubt you'll see it on there any time soon.

(Nifty aftermarket idea though)

Villain

Thanks for the pics :cssNET: I cant ait to see one up close my self.

I appreciate your efforts in getting some shots…

All in all the car looks good, but not great. I’m really bothered by what seem to be certain obvious "Cavalier quality" carry-overs (more like hangovers) on the interior. Most telling is the god-awful looking (beyond chintzy) e-brake and molded plastic crap on the floor! Also, the dash area (gauges etc.) are screaming; “look at me, I’m cheap…”

Unimpressive… :barf:

I was really hoping GM/Chevy would FINALLY make a car that at least comes within a half-mile of an RSX or similar (NOT just HP, but refinement guys). Maybe I’ll be waiting another 25 years… :cry:

Most telling is the god-awful looking (beyond chintzy) e-brake and molded plastic crap on the floor! Also, the dash area (gauges etc.) are screaming; “look at me, I’m cheap…”

I realize that the e-brake looks a little cheesy as it is, but it still serves it's purpose in the car. Maybe it's just that my car's interior is 10X worse, but I liked the interior of the cobalt. I mean c'mon it's a lot better than the SRT-4 Interior and the car does only cost 20K. When I sat in the SRT-4 I was extremely dissapointed with the interior...it's so cheesy. The cobalt's interior though was more like...'now this is more like it.' I won't disagree that some aspects of the car are a little underdone, but I still like it nonetheless.

I realize that the e-brake looks a little cheesy as it is, but it still serves it's purpose in the car. Maybe it's just that my car's interior is 10X worse, but I liked the interior of the cobalt. I mean c'mon it's a lot better than the SRT-4 Interior and the car does only cost 20K. When I sat in the SRT-4 I was extremely dissapointed with the interior...it's so cheesy. The cobalt's interior though was more like...'now this is more like it.' I won't disagree that some aspects of the car are a little underdone, but I still like it nonetheless.


I think the interior would look better with the colored inserts, it looks kinda bland all black, but i still like it. Yeah the e-brake is kinda cheesy, did anyone else notice the scrape marks on it already from pulling it up?

I realize that the e-brake looks a little cheesy as it is, but it still serves it's purpose in the car. Maybe it's just that my car's interior is 10X worse, but I liked the interior of the cobalt. I mean c'mon it's a lot better than the SRT-4 Interior and the car does only cost 20K. When I sat in the SRT-4 I was extremely dissapointed with the interior...it's so cheesy. The cobalt's interior though was more like...'now this is more like it.' I won't disagree that some aspects of the car are a little underdone, but I still like it nonetheless.

Yea, I hear ya, and I haven't looked at a SRT-4, but it should be a slam-dunk to outclass a turbo Neon!

IMO the cheap crap look is really INEXCUSABLE at this point for GM. Its like 75% of the car is threatening to be “class,” and they’ve just got to ruin it with enough “ass” to remind you of a Cavalier! WHY??? How much can it possibly cost per unit to add some attention to detail and get it right for once!

I guarantee you the obvious disappointments will cost sales. Really, I’m sure the car is a significant step in the right direction, but (sadly) they didn’t hit the bulls eye…

Yea, I hear ya, and I haven't looked at a SRT-4, but it should be a slam-dunk to outclass a turbo Neon!

IMO the cheap crap look is really INEXCUSABLE at this point for GM. Its like 75% of the car is threatening to be “class,” and they’ve just got to ruin it with enough “ass” to remind you of a Cavalier! WHY??? How much can it possibly cost per unit to add some attention to detail and get it right for once!

I guarantee you the obvious disappointments will cost sales. Really, I’m sure the car is a significant step in the right direction, but (sadly) they didn’t hit the bulls eye…

A lot of the same complaints on the new C6 Corvette, many people feel the inside is too cheap looking.

I think the interior would look better with the colored inserts, it looks kinda bland all black, but i still like it. Yeah the e-brake is kinda cheesy, did anyone else notice the scrape marks on it already from pulling it up?

Yeah, I did notice those scrapes. Hell It's not like the ebrake handle is something you couldn't replace if you really wanted to. Besides, when the hell do you ever look down at your ebrake while going super fast and care how ugly it is? I rest my case :lol:

Yeah, I did notice those scrapes. Hell It's not like the ebrake handle is something you couldn't replace if you really wanted to. Besides, when the hell do you ever look down at your ebrake while going super fast and care how ugly it is? I rest my case :lol:

I concur. :bow:

I can tell you right now I'm going to warranty replace the ebrake handle every 6 months. :barf:

I'm really dissapointed with the centre console (or lack their of) and the lack of heated seats and possible cheap leather (judging from the other pics).

They came soooo close, but I can already tell there will be things that bug me about my car when I get it :(

They came soooo close, but I can already tell there will be things that bug me about my car when I get it :(

I wanted to buy mine in May, but I'm going to wait until the '06 model not only because of any minor fixes that might occur, but there is no point in having a '05 for like 4-5 months. Don't the '06 models come out in like Septemberish?

I wanted to buy mine in May, but I'm going to wait until the '06 model not only because of any minor fixes that might occur, but there is no point in having a '05 for like 4-5 months. Don't the '06 models come out in like Septemberish?


I heard someone saying that theres a certain cycle when certain cars get produced, that combined with the late release date of the 05's will most likely make the 06's come out at the end of this year, maybe even the first quarter of next year. I know the Corvettes usually get released july-september-ish, but it depends on the car, some cars are released now and wont see an 06 model until this time next year.

Yeah, I did notice those scrapes. Hell It's not like the ebrake handle is something you couldn't replace if you really wanted to. Besides, when the hell do you ever look down at your ebrake while going super fast and care how ugly it is? I rest my case :lol:

You may be inclined to buy a NEW car and start replacing parts, but that kind of silliness should NOT be necessary! Molded chintzy plastic crap tells you something about the ATTENTION TO DETAIL in the car in general. It also tells you something about WHO GM plans on selling this car to --- someone who obviously doesn’t give a crap about crap!

Sorry, but I reiterate my point --- there’s NO REASON why GM can’t produce higher quality materials. None! It’s a JOKE at this point, and unless you demand better you won’t get it.

rcatss396: All I'm saying is that I'm going to be 19 years old when I purchase the vehicle. I have a 1999 Hyundai Tiburon FX. You think the Cobalt's Interior is bad...go sit in one of those. All I know is that the cobalt's interior is waaay nicer than my car and I could really care less about the ebrake handle or whatever. I thought the car looked fine. I'm certainly not taking a step down in interior quality is all I'm saying. I can live with plastic here and there.

You guys also have to realize that the SS isn't the be all end all of the Cobalt line. Chevy has base models for this car and those base models are priced in the middle to upper teens.

Other cars in that price catagory have similar if not worse interior appointments. With the SS, Chevy gives you performance engineering, a supercharger, track tested suspension, recaro seats, LSD and upgrades gauges. They aren't going to redesign the entire interior for the lowest volume car on the model range.

Look at the direct competition (SRT-4) and I dare you to tell me the Cobalt SS interior isn't miles ahead of it in layout, design and materials.

Does the dash material suck? Yes, but it's what I would expect in a mid teens priced car.

You guys also have to realize that the SS isn't the be all end all of the Cobalt line. Chevy has base models for this car and those base models are priced in the middle to upper teens.

Other cars in that price catagory have similar if not worse interior appointments. With the SS, Chevy gives you performance engineering, a supercharger, track tested suspension, recaro seats, LSD and upgrades gauges. They aren't going to redesign the entire interior for the lowest volume car on the model range.

Look at the direct competition (SRT-4) and I dare you to tell me the Cobalt SS interior isn't miles ahead of it in layout, design and materials.

Does the dash material suck? Yes, but it's what I would expect in a mid teens priced car.


I totally agree here. I think the finish on the cobalt is WAAAYYY nicer than the SRT-4. My buddy has an SRT-4 and even says its nicer. We also have to realize the price range and what we are getting for that price. Feet Deep is totally right on this. IF you guys want to complain about the quality of the cobalt interior dont buy the cobalt. Spend more money and get a more expensive car.

Cavaliers were going for super cheap and it showed, the cobalt is going for a little more but the quality has much improved, you want better quality, spend the 40-50gs or whatever it is and get a corvette... Im impressed at the cobalt for the price its going for and definately more affordable

That center “console” is bogus man! It just isn’t right for a $22k small car (albeit with some hot performance etc.) to have materials like that…Sorry.

In all honesty, the e-brake area looks WORSE than a Cavalier for gods-sakes…

In general, the interior is sort of half-ass finished, and that’s really too bad because it’s what was left undone that’s most glaring.

I’m not 19, far from it. And I’d really like to drive a “spirited car” from GM (like the CobaltSS) but at the same time I want something refined and well finished (and [get freakin real] it shouldn't cost an additional $20k for an improved interior...)

I am curious to what the driver info center looks like.
If you look at the picture of the cluster the driver info center is the screen on the rpm guage. I test drove a Cobalt LT sedan on saturday which also ofcourse had the drivers info center and thats where it is.

Now that you really get to see some things up close it is kinda sad the quality of some of the interior pieces. The emergency brake should have leather or vinyl on it so it doesnt look so cheap. I personally dont like the center of the recaro seats but I'm also not getting them. The coin holder on the drivers side near your knees looks kinda cheap too when its open. The knobs on the hvac look extremly cheap. And the foot pedals look cheap too (but that can easily be replaced) But I'm still looking forward to getting my car.None of this affects my choice.

That center “console” is bogus man! It just isn’t right for a $22k small car (albeit with some hot performance etc.) to have materials like that…Sorry.

In all honesty, the e-brake area looks WORSE than a Cavalier for gods-sakes…


Yah the E-Brake is way worse than a Cavaliers. I may just take it out of the Cavy and put it in. But I doubt it. I may just upgrade the center console to the one that actually has an arm rest.

another question about the spare, is it just a tire or is there a rim on there too?

Hmm I was just looking over some of the pictures again...the center console the most. I just noticed something...what is that yellow stuff around the shifter knob at the bottom near the 'chrome' accents??? I didn't notice that when I was in the car but I just saw it in the pictures. Any ideas?

I think its just light hitting it, around the dealer seems to be a lot of yellow'ish signs, combined with the lights and what not, it looks like the shift knob has a slight shade of yellow too. weird.

i think around the boot there is a silver ring... oh excuse me to all that know everyting a titanium ring.

wow i didnt notice how cheap the ebrake looked until someone pointed it out. i guess i was just so excited to see actual pics of an actual cobalt ss s/c. that ebrake is really depressing, my mom's 97' mercury tracer has a better ebrake. i just cant wait to see one in person. and hopefully by the time the 2006 models come out they will have a fixed these things.

Great Quality shots. I am suprised that they have it already. Out here we have to wait till spring to see one. We just started getting the coupes. Well they are one of the top 3 dealerships in the US.

Man looks so nice, too bad i've gone more towards the redline now.

I seem to like it , I see also that no one has noticed the small sized brake pedal , shouldn't it be bigger or is that because its a manual? I also agree the e-brake does look cheap and the car should have a center console with an storage/arm rest just like the cavalier.

I seem to like it , I see also that no one has noticed the small sized brake pedal , shouldn't it be bigger or is that because its a manual? I also agree the e-brake does look cheap and the car should have a center console with an storage/arm rest just like the cavalier.


im just going to get some leather or some type of fabric and make a ebrake cover to color match the seats and doors

If you guys have noticed that all the Cobalts ALL ARE NOT THE SAME.. Different things in them, some with center consul some without, Leather this Leather that, some with out...

It's making me think, maybe GM did that by purpose to make YOUR car uniqe!!!! <--(spelling? )

Look at the car over all ------------ that's what matters "The bottom line! "

and all the odds and ends -- Eh!

^^^ i thought leather was standard in the ss s/c unless you choose other wise i guess, i understand that everyone has different options but they really could have put a little more effort into the interior. the chevrolet website says that the middle console is not standard or optional in the ss s/c. i'd rather have a quality car than a unique car, but thats just me ;)

Ok, this just had to said, its gone on long enough!
You guys are flaming a car because of how its parking brake looks???? JESUS! The parking brake could be made of peat moss and dirt for all I care, I only need it to hold my car from rolling down my driveway when I'm not in it.

I'll only be looking out my windsheild with a big, stupid, goofy grin on my face loving the SC thrust. Maybe I'll take the odd peek in my rear view mirror to see what car I just dusted.

I WON'T be looking down at my parking though while driving with the inner thought of shame on how "GM really cheap-out here" :rolleyes:

If the look of the parking brake is such a high priority, go buy a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord.

^^^ i thought leather was standard in the ss s/c unless you choose other wise i guess, i understand that everyone has different options but they really could have put a little more effort into the interior. the chevrolet website says that the middle console is not standard or optional in the ss s/c. i'd rather have a quality car than a unique car, but thats just me ;)

Your elbow will/would smack the center console if you are a tall guy like me. I have to sit with the seat all the way down (as low as possible) and I have long lanky arms. When shifting gears in the Saturn Ion I kept hitting the console with my elbow.

Your elbow will/would smack the center console if you are a tall guy like me. I have to sit with the seat all the way down (as low as possible) and I have long lanky arms. When shifting gears in the Saturn Ion I kept hitting the console with my elbow.
Yeah i wish they would have put in a low console, or atlest the stock one that flips up.. its just the centre area is so flippin ugly.. sticks out like a sore thumb.

i agree with b-spot, but im a perfectionist and granted we probably are being overly dramatic about it but just look at it! couldnt they have put just a bit more into. and i understand what youre saying about the console but like b-spot said why couldnt they have made a lower one or something.

IMO the e brake serves it purpose. yes it's not pretty but if you were to use the car for SCCA or something simular I think the e brake is perfect, easy to get to, and straight forward thus not difficult to grasp. It would not be difficult to make a consule or change out the brake if you wanted to. All the brake is a rod with a release button, it is extremely easy to make one of these, and just think, you could get funky on it and make it an eye catcher. The consule will be a little bit more work, but IMO there is plenty of space to make a narrow consule. There are plenty of mounting points right there. The finish is fairly easy to, just adheasive, foam, and leather (pleather). I can understand everyone wanting just perfect from the factory, but this is not a Lexus (know for quality interior). Just look at it a another mod to make it yours. Everyone mods the engine and the exterior, why not mod the interior?

Ok, this just had to said, its gone on long enough!
You guys are flaming a car because of how its parking brake looks???? JESUS! The parking brake could be made of peat moss and dirt for all I care, I only need it to hold my car from rolling down my driveway when I'm not in it.

I'll only be looking out my windsheild with a big, stupid, goofy grin on my face loving the SC thrust. Maybe I'll take the odd peek in my rear view mirror to see what car I just dusted.

I WON'T be looking down at my parking though while driving with the inner thought of shame on how "GM really cheap-out here" :rolleyes:

If the look of the parking brake is such a high priority, go buy a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord.
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion it might not matter to you. But thats your preference just because other people dont like it doesnt make it stupid and buying a Toyota or a Honda has nothing to do with it.

Archplsm-While moding the interior is all fine a great for those people that are purchasing their Cobalt's I will be leasing and dont have that option. Thats why I went with the Cobalt SS/SC over the ION RedLine because it had more features stock.But I do agree that specifically isnt a hard thing to fix, and yes the car isnt a lexus but my car is 23,000$ which is more than I paid for my 2002 Grand Am when I bought it new, It's just surprising how GM can make some things really nice and then almost forget about others expecially when it comes to plastic. My G6 has too much cheap plastic in the interior and it takes away from the image the $27,000 car should have. Sometimes the little details can add up.

Ok, this just had to said, its gone on long enough!
You guys are flaming a car because of how its parking brake looks???? JESUS! The parking brake could be made of peat moss and dirt for all I care, I only need it to hold my car from rolling down my driveway when I'm not in it.

I'll only be looking out my windsheild with a big, stupid, goofy grin on my face loving the SC thrust. Maybe I'll take the odd peek in my rear view mirror to see what car I just dusted.

I WON'T be looking down at my parking though while driving with the inner thought of shame on how "GM really cheap-out here" :rolleyes:

If the look of the parking brake is such a high priority, go buy a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord.

True, the parking brake probably won't be a make or break thing for (most) potential Cobalt buyers. But is it asking too much to have a parking brake whose sides don't get scratched pretty bad by merely pulling it up? Both sides seem to have valid points on this one. ;)

True, the parking brake probably won't be a make or break thing for (most) potential Cobalt buyers. But is it asking too much to have a parking brake whose sides don't get scratched pretty bad by merely pulling it up? Both sides seem to have valid points on this one. ;)
Very valid point. Just like I said in my first post I think it looks cheap but will it change my deposit and my order, NO.( I have wrote a bunch of auto reviews and its just in my nature to point out the negative in positive in vehicles. But just because I may say something looks cheap that doesnt mean I dont want to own the vehicle, no vehicle is perfect. But I think constructive critisism can be good.

Ok, this just had to said, its gone on long enough!
You guys are flaming a car because of how its parking brake looks???? JESUS! The parking brake could be made of peat moss and dirt for all I care, I only need it to hold my car from rolling down my driveway when I'm not in it.

I'll only be looking out my windsheild with a big, stupid, goofy grin on my face loving the SC thrust. Maybe I'll take the odd peek in my rear view mirror to see what car I just dusted.

I WON'T be looking down at my parking though while driving with the inner thought of shame on how "GM really cheap-out here" :rolleyes:

Yeah, I did notice those scrapes. Hell It's not like the ebrake handle is something you couldn't replace if you really wanted to. Besides, when the hell do you ever look down at your ebrake while going super fast and care how ugly it is? I rest my case

That's exactly what I said!! AND I totally agree with whoever said everyone mods their engines, etc. why not the Interior? My cousin modded his interior along with his engine, suspension, etc. on his RSX-S. I thought it was awesome.

i just really want to see the car in person, i've been looking forward to that moment for quite some time now. hopefully the cars driving will speak for itself.

On one extreme you could say the interior of the car is absolutely irrelevant, and concerns regarding the quality of materials, fit and finish, pertain to “luxury buyers” only. On the other hand, you can say the interior of the car is where you spend 99% of your time, and therefore it’s very important.

IMO it’s a royal joke that GM cuts and pastes obvious chintzy materials together.

Let me draw a line of distinction; if GM had produced an interior in the Cobalt SS that equaled or surpassed an RSX the RAVES would be overwhelming. And I guarantee you everyone on this site buying an SS would be BIG TIME HAPPY about it!

So let’s not BS the point. The interior MATTERS A LOT, and the only reason people on this site discount the importance of the interior is because they’ve already conceded a “nice interior” to a “luxury car.”

That’s just bull…

Hey guys! This is my first post. Been reading for awhile, and love the site. I am planning to buy and SS/SC when available. Anyway, about the interior. While it is not the greatest in the world, its not bad either. It looks to be an improvement over my Sunfire (except the e-brake of course). But in all honesty, GM could make the interior out of balsa wood for all I care, and it really wouldn't make a difference to me. As long as it looks good going down the road, and has good power, that's what matters to me. Would I want to have to spend an extra grand or so just for a pretty interior..... NOOOO. You know if they would have spent more time on "improving the interior" that we would see that reflected in the price of the car, and that ain't worth it to me. If spending more for the interior is something you don't mind, then go do it, aftermarket is a wonderful thing.

Hey guys! This is my first post. Been reading for awhile, and love the site. I am planning to buy and SS/SC when available. Anyway, about the interior. While it is not the greatest in the world, its not bad either. It looks to be an improvement over my Sunfire (except the e-brake of course). But in all honesty, GM could make the interior out of balsa wood for all I care, and it really wouldn't make a difference to me. As long as it looks good going down the road, and has good power, that's what matters to me. Would I want to have to spend an extra grand or so just for a pretty interior..... NOOOO. You know if they would have spent more time on "improving the interior" that we would see that reflected in the price of the car, and that ain't worth it to me. If spending more for the interior is something you don't mind, then go do it, aftermarket is a wonderful thing.

For a first post you nailed it! I think that is the fact of the world we live in. You are not going to get a car with a supercharger/18' alloys/leather interior/sport tuned suspension/short throw shifter/pioneer sound system/etc/etc for anywhere near this price. To make a profit GM had to cut corners somewhere, and I am glad it was on items like the dashboard plastic, e brake handle, no center console etc then making the car only 170HP, or giving it only 16' wheels, or losing the P Zero's for some crappy tires.

Don't get me worng, I would love a nicer interior, but for the price I think you can't expect perfection. Look at the SRT-4's horrid interior, and it is only a few Hundred cheaper. A Mazda 3 or VW GTI have very very nice interiors for similar prices, but they lack the HP and standard goodies. Its all about you get what you pay for.

This is GM we are talking about. This interior is still ight years ahead for some of their recent attempts.

I’m going to isolate the e-brake for the sake of simplicity. If you think for an instant the difference between GM making a profit and losing $$$ on this car is related to that, you’re [fill in the blank]!

Come on, stop justifying GM’s obvious lack of attention to basic details --- details that other car manufacturers solved years ago within a profitable window.

As far as “you get what you pay for,” that’s ECXACTLY what I'm *&#@ing talking about! If (IMO) you think for an INSTANT that some of the materials in the SS interior BELONG in a $22k car --- you’re either blind or just plain dumb…

I’m going to isolate the e-brake for the sake of simplicity. If you think for an instant the difference between GM making a profit and losing $$$ on this car is related to that, you’re [fill in the blank]!

Come on, stop justifying GM’s obvious lack of attention to basic details --- details that other car manufacturers solved years ago within a profitable window.

As far as “you get what you pay for,” that’s ECXACTLY what I'm *&#@ing talking about! If (IMO) you think for an INSTANT that some of the materials in the SS interior BELONG in a $22k car --- you’re either blind or just plain dumb…

The 22K price is for the performance parts.

If you can show me one car that lists for 22 000 new WITH the same/better performance (0-60, salom, etc) and a nicer interior then I'll shut up. And I mean 22 000 final price, not 22 000 base price (since the cobalt comes fully loaded stock).

but I thought I would compare other cars out there with similar performance, demographics, prices, market goals, etc with the Cobalt to see the kind of deal we are getting

These are all base prices, so they are missing a lot of the goodies of the cobalt (leather, bigger wheels, upgraded sound system, etc)

SRT 4 - base $21 195 - neon interior, 'nuff said
Mustang GT - base $24 995 - one ugly interior, no rear space at all, gas guzzler, but is faster
Civic SIR - base $19 735 = not a bad interior, but way way slower
RX-8 - base $25 920 (197hp) $27420 (238hp) - Nicer in everyway then a cobalt, but much more money
350Z - base cheap-o version $27 060/ track version $34 860 - Again nicer and faster, but a lot more money
GTI - base $20 085 1.8T/ $22 905 VR6 - Nicer interior, but again slower
TSX - base $27 560 - nicer interior again, but slower again
A4 1.8T - base $26 520 - nice nice interior, wayyy slower
Accord sedan - Base LX-V6 $24 315 - About as fasT, kinda boring interior....and it is no way as good a handler and it is a family sedan
Mazda 6 - V6s $23 840 - Nice car, but again a bit slower and not so responsive, and at this price missing a lot fo goodies. Grand Touring starts at $26 000
Altima - 3.5SE $23 710/ SE-R $29 760 - Nice fast fast car, again a lot of money for the performance version.
RSX Type-S - $24 140 - really nice interior, similar performance, but over $2000 more money still
Accord coupe - LX-V6 $24 415 - similar to sedan, but even more cash
Tiburon GT - $22 000 - hahaha
Mini cooper S - $20 449 - Here is the closest I could find with a nicer interior, cheaper price, cool caR, but still even with the S/C it is slower.
Celica GTS - $22 335 - slow

See I don't think we are getting ripped off! Now wheres my car GM?

Mustang GT - base $24 995 - one ugly interior, no rear space at all, gas guzzler, but is faster

Mike great post, I'm glad you brought this up as well...if you guys are pissed about the Cobalt SS interior do me a favor...stop by a Ford dealer today and sit in the new Mustang. Every bit of plastic and materials on the car is of the same quality as my girlfriends 2001 Hyundai Elantra. Cheap, poorly assembled and the worst part is that the car may have an MSRP of 25k but most dealers markup is around 30k +.

(^^^Another reason why the rustang can't compete with the GTO)

Could the Cobalt SS be better? Yes, and GM is the largest car corporation in the world so they could have no problem doing it. But if I can't have both sick performance and a great interior...I'll pick the great performing car with the shitty e-brake :rolleyes:

Yo guys, I’m not talking “value perception” verses other cars, you’re completely missing my point.

Here’s an example, and I’m NOT trying to sell anyone on a Honda etc. Take the entry level Civic Coupe ($14k).

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/interior_gallery.asp?ModelName=Civic+Coupe

Now forget about performance for a minute and just look at the interior quality. Keep in mind this car retails $8k LESS than the CobaltSS. The Civic interior certainly isn’t “luxurious” by any standard, but it is well designed, well integrated and executed with good quality materials. Nothing fancy, nothing super expensive, just good solid interior design and execution. OK???

Now, contrast that to the Cobalt (and forget about Mustangs, Neons and other crap). If GM is the biggest car manufacturer on the planet, it’s NOT TO MUCH TO EXPECT A WELL DESIGNED, WELL EXECUATED INTERIOR!!!

But if I can't have both sick performance and a great interior...I'll pick the great performing car with the shitty e-brake :rolleyes:

Im with you on this, it's just an e-brake. You shouldnt expect more from GM, the new corvette's interior is somewhat plasticy too.

guys let it go, its a FREAKIN e-brake get over it, if you dont like it then replace it end of story.......now moving on!


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Here's my main issue...

I had really high hopes the SS would be killer inside and out (I’ve had a 2000 Z24 and 2004 LS Sport). Months ago, before the car was on the street, GM sent me a postcard followed by a brochure. The car looked much better pre-production (on paper) than it seems to now appear based on the actual "real production car" photos on this thread.

In addition, there was hype on the net about how this car was going to redefine GM in the small car market --- with really nice interior etc. Sorry man, but based on the production car photos, the car is a MAJOR disappointment to me (and it’s not just because of the ridiculous e-brake).

I’m actually hoping someone from GM cares enough to listen to a life long GM customer (that’s me) and maybe decide to cut the crap with the cheap shit crap. But as someone else said, that’s probably expecting way too much from GM! If that’s the real truth, it’s a very sad state of affairs…

RSX here I come. :thumb:

Later.

Here's my main issue...

I had really high hopes the SS would be killer inside and out (I’ve had a 2000 Z24 and 2004 LS Sport). Months ago, before the car was on the street, GM sent me a postcard followed by a brochure. The car looked much better pre-production (on paper) than it seems to now appear based on the actual "real production car" photos on this thread.

In addition, there was hype on the net about how this car was going to redefine GM in the small car market --- with really nice interior etc. Sorry man, but based on the production car photos, the car is a MAJOR disappointment to me (and it’s not just because of the ridiculous e-brake).

I’m actually hoping someone from GM cares enough to listen to a life long GM customer (that’s me) and maybe decide to cut the crap with the cheap shit crap. But as someone else said, that’s probably expecting way too much from GM! If that’s the real truth, it’s a very sad state of affairs…

RSX here I come. :thumb:

Later.
You make a valid point. And for you that dont agree about the interior issues. Some of you are just focusing on one comment and simply ignoring what is trying to be said. I agree with the statement above about the cobalt, and how it was suppose to be something new and not typical. For some people it is dissapointing to see that some materials in the vehicle are a lower grade than some of GM's small cars now.

rcat...you do make a valid point and if your happy with buying the rsx go ahead...atleast I know if I get a SS and go to florida I know atleast one person I can race...and beat. :-D

is the cobalt really gonna be sold for 22k(msrp) my dealer said they will go for around 26,000-ish

Die-hard GM fans who love the Cobalt may not care about things like the parking brake handle so much, but perhaps Honda and Toyota owners will. Keep in mind that Chevrolet is not just trying to lure GM buyers, but also import buyers who probably have high expectations for their cars -- and we know the media will be quick to report any negative thing about the Cobalt they happen to find. :rolleyes:

Die-hard GM fans who love the Cobalt may not care about things like the parking brake handle so much, but perhaps Honda and Toyota owners will. Keep in mind that Chevrolet is not just trying to lure GM buyers, but also import buyers who probably have high expectations for their cars -- and we know the media will be quick to report any negative thing about the Cobalt they happen to find. :rolleyes:
Thats a good point too. Most of us GM owners are use to certain things that others find not acceptable. The media always seems to enjoy giving any type of crisitism toward GM sometimes its right but usually its not.

And that is................

If GM took the time to get the better quality things, fabricate everything from that, put in on the car, make sure it's all nicey nice.... Ummmmmmmmmmmmm

WE WOULD ALL BE WAITING FOR OUR CARS UNTILL DECEMBER OF 2006 <--- Saying that with a little bit of humor... But I think you all now what I'm tring to say!!

Perhaps you should look at the car in person before finally deciding, pictures are often misleading.

Perhaps you should look at the car in person before finally deciding, pictures are often misleading.
I have seen the car in person thats why I still want to get one.

I took the pictures, and it wasn't like the first thing that popped in my mind when I saw the e-brake was, "God that thing is ugly..." The first thing I thought was, "o look the e-brake." I didn't care, and now that i think of it, I released it to see what it would be like without an armrest, and It wasn't bad. Besides, your arm can rest in your lap when you're not shifting.

I took the pictures, and it wasn't like the first thing that popped in my mind when I saw the e-brake was, "God that thing is ugly..." The first thing I thought was, "o look the e-brake." I didn't care, and now that i think of it, I released it to see what it would be like without an armrest, and It wasn't bad. Besides, your arm can rest in your lap when you're not shifting.

Yeah, my hand is always on the gear shift, even during highway runs, so it isn't going to be a big deal to me.

Yo guys, I’m not talking “value perception” verses other cars, you’re completely missing my point.

Here’s an example, and I’m NOT trying to sell anyone on a Honda etc. Take the entry level Civic Coupe ($14k).

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/interior_gallery.asp?ModelName=Civic+Coupe

Now forget about performance for a minute and just look at the interior quality. Keep in mind this car retails $8k LESS than the CobaltSS. The Civic interior certainly isn’t “luxurious” by any standard, but it is well designed, well integrated and executed with good quality materials. Nothing fancy, nothing super expensive, just good solid interior design and execution. OK???

Now, contrast that to the Cobalt (and forget about Mustangs, Neons and other crap). If GM is the biggest car manufacturer on the planet, it’s NOT TO MUCH TO EXPECT A WELL DESIGNED, WELL EXECUATED INTERIOR!!!

And what is so hot about that interior?? Looks like a bunch of plastic with a little more curve to the dash than the Cobalt. About the only thing I will give the Honda is the arm rest, but I could care less about a arm rest. I don't get what you think is so much better with the Civic interior over the Cobalt, besides having an arm rest.

Die-hard GM fans who love the Cobalt may not care about things like the parking brake handle so much, but perhaps Honda and Toyota owners will. Keep in mind that Chevrolet is not just trying to lure GM buyers, but also import buyers who probably have high expectations for their cars -- and we know the media will be quick to report any negative thing about the Cobalt they happen to find. :rolleyes:

IMO this is really right on. It's too late for GM to get me on this car, but for those of you who think people who like Honda etc. don't see a discernable difference in certain quality/design aspects (in relation to GM) you're not paying attention to a MAJOR part of the market.

I was a loyal GM buyer for many years (I’ve probably bought or leased 10+ GM cars) and I discounted everything Honda etc. and just gave GM a free pass for some pretty obvious quality issues. But I'm tired of getting annihilated on resale value and so forth. Is resale value based solely on perception, or are there other factors? IMO its perception and factory policy. Obviously rebates destroy value… Cobalts (albeit non-SS) are already being rebated!?

So if someone takes a peak inside a Cobalt SS and spots a mixed bag interior with some obvious/glaring chunks of crap --- that reinforces the IMPRESSION that GM cannot produce a car (at less than a Cadillac price) that looks “well designed and well integrated.” The $$$ value in the market of that is undeniable, although the perceived value is entirely subjective (thus you may not care but MANY others do care).

Someone commented that the Civic coupe interior wasn’t anything great. Guess what, I agree! But the difference is (if you actually directly compare) the Civic is a little better in EVERY way, and a lot better in a few ways. When you add it up it makes a substantial difference. To me the good news is that GM should be able to close the gap given their enormous resources, but for some reason they seem unable or unwilling. So therefore I have become unable and unwilling to accept the same old crap…(capitalism at its best, and the consumer rules)!

Furthermore, I would only say this. If everyone who wants to buy a Cobalt SS told GM the following, the marketplace would follow: “Listen GM, we really dig what you’re doing with this car --- power plant is thumbs up, styling is cool, handing is great… But, unless and until you hire a world-class interior designer (someone who knows how to get more out of less), we’re not going to settle for 2nd class ANYMORE.

Perhaps you should look at the car in person before finally deciding, pictures are often misleading.

Finally somebody with a brain.

You guys can't just jump up and start bashing quality if you haven't gone out and tried the car out. I've driven both the coupe and the sedan and you know what, i'ld KILL for one, especially since i've only had cavaliers. This car is such a great improvement! and it doesn't just show up the cavi (which isn't THAT hard to do) but it shows up a lot of the other cars that its competing against (in terms of quality and power)

I think GM's done a suppurb job.

GM's put a lot of thought into this particular style/model (the SS). The gas pedal is arched at the bottom to help when heal-toeing. the clumbsy arm rest in the coupe was removed to give easy access to the ebrake. ect ect
And when e-braking around in a big parking lot with the coupe, i didnt find it to be all that bad. i wish it had more 'tug' to it (but i was driving the coupe not the SS), and the center armrest was kinda in the way, placing me in an awkward position. (SS Supercharged = no arm rest = problem solved)

i agree entirely with rcatss's last post. and also maybe if everyone complains to gm saying the same thing, then next years model might be better.

having had to deal with civics for much longer than a normal person should have to, imma add my 57 cents to this...

honestly...pound for pound...picture vs picture (at this point), the cobalt has the civic beat on the overall interior aspect. secondly, if u've ever sat in that interior (or had to deal with it on a daily basis (worked for honda) and this could be purely based on personal taste) but it is, IMO, right up there with some of the most boring interiors ever put in a car. the fit and finish of it quickly wears off. the rsx on the other hand is very nice. boring, but very nicely put together (with no center cosole mind you). the only thing about the cobalt that i have seen that i dont like, is the indeedly horrible looking parking break...but hey, i dont exactly look down or cirtique mine alot.

since i havent sat in one yet, i do have a question about the dash though...in the pics, it looks like a hard plastic all the way around...top and bottom...is it a soft material? or is it hard and stiff (not movable if u push on it with one finger)?

imma ride down here to the local big wigs tomorrow and check a sedan interior out for myself...

since i havent sat in one yet, i do have a question about the dash though...in the pics, it looks like a hard plastic all the way around...top and bottom...is it a soft material? or is it hard and stiff (not movable if u push on it with one finger)?

imma ride down here to the local big wigs tomorrow and check a sedan interior out for myself...
I'm going to change my answer I just read my review I wrote on the cobalt and it is the hard plastic on the dash not the soft plastic. I was getting it confused with the malibu that I test drove the other day to write a review.

GM's put a lot of thought into this particular style/model (the SS). The gas pedal is arched at the bottom to help when heal-toeing.

Just noticed that, that's cool. Also, for the dash I think it's hard plastic all around, but I'm not 100% positive...

I see many of you getting in an uproar over price. Here at my dealership you can buy a $37,000 Trailblazer and get a $600 payment, or you can do a SmartBuy for $350 saving about $250 a month in payment (that's take home money) versus buying it over 5 years. That's with no money down, nothingm not even taxes.

What are the advantages of the SmartBuy:

Mitigates risk of devaluation so you will not be upside down when you trade.

Provides a lower payment, even if you drive 30,000 miles a year (you can do that many in a smartbuy)

most people only keep a car 2,3 years, and a small percentile more.

If you want to the cobalt SS or any Cobalt, your best deal is the Smartbuy.

In a few years you'll be looking at something else, so why set yourself up for LOSSES?

P.S. The dealership doesn't make more on a SmartBuy either!

Damn nice pictures, Ohh i cant wait :)

Hey guys my very first post yippie!

Now let's get serious, get over the G**-damn ebrake. The armrest was taken out of production because it interfeared with shifting. Even a "low" armrest still got in the way. Why do I know this? I work for GM Canada, and my father runs a chain of dealerships in British Columbia.

Next tip, this isn't a production vehicle. I repeat: THIS IS NOT A PRODUCTION VEHICLE. This is another media car sent by General Motors that will never be sold to the public. I am confirming this. Hell look at the picture with the sticker that even claims it is NOT to be sold to the public. Although I doubt any changes will occur to the final vehicles for public sale, you never know. One thing that may change is the gauges...believe it or not they're still tinkering (supplier issues with the titanium maybe?).

I also read some concerns about the seats. Yes the stock ones are leather, no Supercharged model can have them heated (but all other cobalt models can), and the leather on the Recaro option looks just fine in person. For reference, it's the same seats in the Ion Redline, just with silvery-white lace instead of the blue from the Saturn.

I'll be happy to answer any of your questions.

PS I ordered a black SS Superchaged with Red Inserts :D

Welcome to the site....

Welcome to the site....

Thanks! This seems like the best Cobalt forum on the internet, kudos to you guys.

wazzap Tiller another cool canadian on the board ( Not that theres anything wrong with Americans) :red: Welcome to the site

Hey guys my very first post yippie!

Now let's get serious, get over the G**-damn ebrake. The armrest was taken out of production because it interfeared with shifting. Even a "low" armrest still got in the way. Why do I know this? I work for GM Canada, and my father runs a chain of dealerships in British Columbia.
Nobody is even talking about the ebrake anymore. Lets not start that back up.

Do you know why the heated leather seats arent in the Cobalt SS/SC? It doesnt really matter but I have just been curious

Nobody is even talking about the ebrake anymore. Lets not start that back up.

Do you know why the heated leather seats arent in the Cobalt SS/SC? It doesnt really matter but I have just been curious

I think we should start up the e-brake talks again just for the fun of it :lol:

I have no idea why they removed the heated seats. They were there in pre-production and I my only guess is to save a few pounds? There's never a good way to get a straight answer out of GM so I gave up on it. Maybe for the 06 MY they'll be back.

I think we should start up the e-brake talks again just for the fun of it :lol:

I have no idea why they removed the heated seats. They were there in pre-production and I my only guess is to save a few pounds? There's never a good way to get a straight answer out of GM so I gave up on it. Maybe for the 06 MY they'll be back.


...Knowing Gm they more likely took out the heated seats to save a few bucks

I think we should start up the e-brake talks again just for the fun of it :lol:

I have no idea why they removed the heated seats. They were there in pre-production and I my only guess is to save a few pounds? There's never a good way to get a straight answer out of GM so I gave up on it. Maybe for the 06 MY they'll be back.
Yeah I know its hard to get answers. I did see them in some of the auto show pre production models thats why I was so curious. It's too bad they couldnt have left them as an option for those who wanted them. But I know in reality it would have just added extra cost.

Yeah I know its hard to get answers. I did see them in some of the auto show pre production models thats why I was so curious. It's too bad they couldnt have left them as an option for those who wanted them. But I know in reality it would have just added extra cost.

I for one was willing to pay for them, and you just know in the back of your head it was more "cost-cutting". But i've heard many rumblings about offering them in the next model year so for future buyers keep your fingers crossed.

Also, at this moment, the NA 2.4L SS offers heated seats and since it's auto only, you get a nice armrest.

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I for one was willing to pay for them, and you just know in the back of your head it was more "cost-cutting". But i've heard many rumblings about offering them in the next model year so for future buyers keep your fingers crossed.

Also, at this moment, the NA 2.4L SS offers heated seats and since it's auto only, you get a nice armrest.

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Yeah I know....always have to save some money. I too would have paid extra for them. Just because my car doesnt go in the garage and the seats can get pretty cold in the winter.

I think we should start up the e-brake talks again just for the fun of it :lol:

I have no idea why they removed the heated seats. They were there in pre-production and I my only guess is to save a few pounds? There's never a good way to get a straight answer out of GM so I gave up on it. Maybe for the 06 MY they'll be back.

E-gads the E-brake!

Ain't seen nutin' that ugly since...

NEVER!!!

:lol:

could we not maybe get the heated installed at the dealer?

im sure the dash and setup would be very similar to the LS coupe (i think it has heated) and maybe the dealers can get the seats in and install them

its worth a shot!

could we not maybe get the heated installed at the dealer?

im sure the dash and setup would be very similar to the LS coupe (i think it has heated) and maybe the dealers can get the seats in and install them

its worth a shot!
Its very possible I would really see why not. But I dont know if they are planning on doing that.

I am very anxiously awaiting the arrival of the SS to K-town here in Indiana but i had a question... i thought they all came with 2-tone interior stock, at least thats what i gather from other forums, so whats the deal with this one? Do I have to pay extra for my two tone??? :cry: Please tell me no!

Rnasty

define two tone

theres the ebony dash and lower dash
the silver "line" and deck across the center
and the color inserts on the doors and seats

thats all stock on the SS

the only two tone colors different than this ive seen are in the regular coupes

Acutally they didn't really care. There were some people looking at me weird that were buying cars but the salesmen were playing basketball in the corner. Talk about salespeople overkill. There were like another 15 in the parking lot in groups. I think the guy was a little dissapointed when I got out telling him I wanted to see the SS S/C. He just lead us to the door and left, lol. So all in all it was cool. I just took out my camera the second I got there and went at it. P.S. thanks for putting this on the front page.


nice pics i think im picking up my car today if everything goes well... but i lrt you all know and post pics up as soon as i get my baby....

nice pictures. These answer some questions and raise no doubts that an SS is going to make me happy. I drove a 97 cavalier for 4 years and 160,000 kms. Was great to me and my niece is now driving it. The interior of the SS is fine. Ihave a 05 Blazer and it has the same type of interior moulding parts. Whats the big deal? I am going to have a blast racing in my red SS at the endof this month. The count down is on :nuts:

Hey Does Anyone Know If There Is Any Porfmance Parts Out For The Cobalt Ss.if So Plz Post Thanks Much.i Have A Red Ss I Put A Intake Filter On It But My Check Engine Light Keeps Coming On..