I am looking to get a performance stage kit but dont know which one to get. Intense, revit-up or GM. Right know i just have a injen cai and iam getting a cel. The cel i know it is for running lean and it goes on and off. Which i believe is from the outside temp being to cold. But what i want to know is what everone thinks is the best kit with the least amount of problems. Cause i dont want to have that damn cel anymore and i want very limited KR. I feel that intense is probably the best, but i am not sure. And the other question i have is if get athe aeroforce interceptor gauge do i still need a wideband a/f gauge?

And if there is anything else that i might need to do with a kit and not have any problems.

 

If you want reliability I would wait for the GM kits. They allow you to keep your warranty. They are also a complete system to add hp. The Intense and Revit-up are just tricking the computer into doing something it is not made to do. It uses other devices to interfer with the sensor readings which is like puting a magnet up to your monitor in my opinion. The GM kits will cost more, but they will be trust worthy and reliable.

 

As it stands right now . I would get the GM stage 1 kit and build off it . You get a nice 31 hp gain by MUCH needed PCM tuning and bigger fuel injectors , it should make the CEL go away too . Then , you have a good tune to add your own 3.0 pulley and the grand prix tensioner pulley or stg 2 GM belt to save ALOT of money over the actual GM stg 2 upgrade . ~OOOOOR if you went with a 2.8/2.7 pulley , youd be in a much better place with GM tuning and then further fine tuning with a Maf-translator than the guys that have a pulley that small and just tune off a Maft or piggyback PCM . I think even Revitup or Intense would agree there too .

Until the aftermarket can tune , GM stg 1 is looking to be your best buddy at the moment

 

Yea, but now I think we find out that the reflash from Stage 1 is different then Stage 2.

 

if thats the case i'll be sooo tight about that but ass long as i get the incressed rev limiter in the stage one thats all I care about. the only thing i can see them doing in a different flash is adding more timing than the stage one flash.

 

Everything I have read lately points to NO raised Rev limiter unfortunately.

 

what are you talking about, GM has said for months the rev limit is going to be raised to 7000RPMs.

 

I keep seeing it go back and forth. I would like to see it raised, especially with the extra power and first already beeing too tall of a gear.

 

Well I orderd Stage 1 for $425 and I could just buy the the 1 to 2 upgrade for $340, BUT I would save over a $100 if I just bought Stage 2 for $637. This is a such a ****!

 

well the way i see it GMs up to something. They gotta figure out a way to own all us guys who are only concidering the stage 1 and not 2 cause we have pulleys already.

 

you could always make friends with your dealer, and see if they will let you buy stage 1, and get the stage 2 reflash. It's not like it costs them anything extra to give you the different calibration. You could argue that the upgrade from stage 1 to 2 is just the pulley and belt. Might work, might not, but maybe worth a shot.

 

I was tossed up between gm stage 2 and intense, but the safest way is probably gm. I just thought $600-$700 was to much. With the gm kit i should still get the wideband a/f gauge and the aeroforce interceptor gauge right?

 

What could be the difference between both of the GM stage reflashes? In theory, shouldn't the stage 1 reflash be enough for us if we wanted to add our own pulley such as a 2.9? The main problem with adding small pullies stock was the fuel problem right? I am just confused. I don't want to spend the extra money for a smaller belt and a 3.15 pulley. What is everyone else doing?

 

I'm willing to bet that people wanting to use Stage 1 and their own pulley is what is leading to the delays in releasing them. They are probably tuning a limiter in the fuel MAP to prohibit the extra air flow. If this is the case, Stage 1 will probably still get the CEL with a CAI.

 

So it seems as of now that a smaller pulley will not benefit you as much in stage 1 as it would in stage 2. So I am wondering if you just get stage 2, THEN slap on a 2.7-2.9 pulley. Then you should see even greater gains......in theory.

 

OK the stage one and stage two reflashes are not the same. I found this at the dealer.
Second the stage one reflash will NOT increas the point at wich the PCM opens the boost bypass valve and kills your funn off.
Get stage 2. Trust me.
Most people pay that much or more for an exhaust and it has less then 25% of the gaines as the satge 2 kit.

Later

 

Thats my plain.
Im going to wait to see what the rev limiter is set at on the stage kit and then decide what size pully I can run and not over spin the SC.

Thats another thing. Stage 2 might rase your redline higher then stage 1. We dont know yet.

Later

 

The rev limiter will NOT be raised. I know this for a fact because the stock valve springs can't handle anything over 6700, period. But don't worry. The pcm will be cracked soon, and then we can do whatever we want.

 

well shows how much you know since theres a member with a 2.4 that just got a reflash and they rasied his limiter to 7000 go find the post. And since both cars use the same springs i would think were good.

 

This will not work. You will need to obtain a VCI number, which is only good for a specific VIN number. When connecting the vehicle to TIS, the VIN is read. If there is no match, programming will not accept. Basically, the stage reflash, is encoded to one specific vehicle.
As for the original question, lets see what GM will offer. I don't think we will be disappionted.

 

I want to do some stage kits for my 06 ss sc.Please tell me where I can purchase these kits.and if anyone knows how to splice in a performance module into the Intake Air Temperature Sensor,or where that sensor is,please email me. mtr111685@verizon.net
thanks alot for the help

 

A guy on 'the other' css website got a chance to drive a Stage 2 R/L (he works for GM). Anywho he says the rev limiter was increased by "a couple hundred rpm"

 

gm only because of the warranty

 

This is a very good point. Getting stage 2

 

Gm said that the stock Valve Train (This included the springs) was good to about 7200 Rpm.

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