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SynapseTurbo
11-16-2008, 05:27 PM
We are now taking pre-orders for our upgraded turbokit. We have made the retail price of $3999 as inexpensive as possible and are giving a one-time oppurtunity for the lucky first buyers to get it at a reduced price. If we get 5 pre-orders the price will be $3750 Shipped!

The kit includes:

-GT2871r Turbo

-SynapseTurbo Exhaust Manifold

-SynapseTurbo 2 piece Downpipe

-SynapseTurbo Intercooler Kit

-SynapseTurbo 3 inch CIA

-Turboxs BOV

-Custom Oil/Coolant lines

-Hptuners Tuned File

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chris88z24
11-16-2008, 05:30 PM
If I had the TC 'balt I would be all over this like a fat kid on cake.



+1 for some QUALITY craftsmanship and a price that simply cannot be beat!

rallyracer
11-16-2008, 05:30 PM
Sweet kit :twothumbs

But with that much power I doubt it will take long to see engines and transmissions blowing up :cool:

chris88z24
11-16-2008, 05:31 PM
With that much power I doubt it will take long to see engines and transmissions blowing up.

No..

Then again with the way some people abuse their cars, I guess anything is possible.

rallyracer
11-16-2008, 05:37 PM
No..

Then again with the way some people abuse their cars, I guess anything is possible.

You seriously believe the stock internals can Handel 371 whp, 383 lb-ft?

...Someone who puts this kit on and plans on not racing / and having fun must really love burning money.

Oh and your clutch will also turn into a paper weight too.

Steven Flit
11-16-2008, 05:43 PM
You seriously believe the stock internals can Handel 371 whp, 383 lb-ft?

...Someone who puts this kit on and plans on not racing / and having fun must really love burning money.

Oh and your clutch will also turn into a paper weight too.

Run meth injection and anythings possible.

SynapseTurbo
11-16-2008, 05:48 PM
We run the car at 20 psi, about 360whp daily and beat it with no issues. The kit will come with a small wastegate actuator so it can be run as low as 10 psi as well.

chris88z24
11-16-2008, 06:04 PM
You seriously believe the stock internals can Handel 371 whp, 383 lb-ft?

...Someone who puts this kit on and plans on not racing / and having fun must really love burning money.

Oh and your clutch will also turn into a paper weight too.

Like I said, it's all in the driver. If you buy this kit and drive around beating on the car all the time, going WOT whenever possible, then yes, I don't think the motor will last very long. If you drive it sensibly, and get on it every once in a while, I don't see any issues in the near future.

EXAMPLE: My friend owns a Honda Prelude that was turboed by Synapse. It's on the stock block with over 100,000 miles, and is running I believe 10psi on stock everything. No issues at all and he's had it for a while now. Does he drive like a tool, going WOT and spooling 10psi everywhere he goes? Absolutely not. But you can bet that the car has been down the dragstrip a number of times, as well as some nice runs off the track (in a closed environment of course ;)). It is also maintained properly. Again, it all depends how the car is driven and really comes down to the owner on how long the car can and will last.

pjk91
11-16-2008, 06:27 PM
It hasn't been tested, but I bet it would fit on all Cobalts. At least the manifold.

glhs379
11-16-2008, 07:44 PM
I agree,

if driven nice, and not beaten everytime out, I think the car will hold that power.

20 psi and 360wheel will be no problem, keep good gas/oil in it and street tires and you should be fine.

If you go full throttle each and everyday, and are at the track every other weekend on slicks, then it will prob break.

like anything, a good balance is needed.

I am seriously considering this kit,

next spring though

steddy2112
11-16-2008, 07:56 PM
You seriously believe the stock internals can Handel 371 whp, 383 lb-ft?

...Someone who puts this kit on and plans on not racing / and having fun must really love burning money.

Oh and your clutch will also turn into a paper weight too.

Yeah cuz Paul's car has melted 4 sets of pistons and he is on his 14th clutch

:lol:

Turbo'dSS
11-16-2008, 08:04 PM
I want this soooo bad!!! i cant cough up almost 4 grand tho... maybe in the future?? im takin out a big enough student loan as it is... just so i can buy my exhaust, dp, charge piping, and intercooler.... im pretty sure i cant get another 4grand. lmao!!!

SynapseTurbo
11-16-2008, 08:06 PM
I want this soooo bad!!! i cant cough up almost 4 grand tho... maybe in the future?? im takin out a big enough student loan as it is... just so i can buy my exhaust, dp, charge piping, and intercooler.... im pretty sure i cant get another 4grand. lmao!!!

Well the intercooler kit is the same, so you can always add the manifold/turbo down the line;)

06blackg85ss
11-16-2008, 08:49 PM
You seriously believe the stock internals can Handel 371 whp, 383 lb-ft?

...Someone who puts this kit on and plans on not racing / and having fun must really love burning money.

Oh and your clutch will also turn into a paper weight too.

um wow.... yup the motor won't hold.... jeez why didn't mine figure that out. 440whp/400wtq all day everyday for months, no issues

Yeah cuz Paul's car has melted 4 sets of pistons and he is on his 14th clutch

:lol:

lolz

Yeah cuz Paul's car has melted 4 sets of pistons and he is on his 14th clutch

:lol:

lolz

Turbo'dSS
11-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Well the intercooler kit is the same, so you can always add the manifold/turbo down the line;)

My plan exactly!!! haha!! i heard u guys were working on a 3" exhasut too, any info on that?? id love to just go all Synapse!

SynapseTurbo
11-16-2008, 08:52 PM
My plan exactly!!! haha!! i heard u guys were working on a 3" exhasut too, any info on that?? id love to just go all Synapse!

Yes we are, should be availalbe in December just in time for the holidays

Turbo'dSS
11-16-2008, 08:54 PM
Yes we are, should be availalbe in December just in time for the holidays

YES!!! my goal is to purchase the exhasut, dp, intercooler, and charge piping, from you guys in the spring then!

JUICETURBOSS
11-16-2008, 09:00 PM
You seriously believe the stock internals can Handel 371 whp, 383 lb-ft?

...Someone who puts this kit on and plans on not racing / and having fun must really love burning money.

Oh and your clutch will also turn into a paper weight too.

This kid is not to smart. Please go back too school and learn something!

The LNF engine can handle 400whp all day long.

rallyracer
11-16-2008, 11:09 PM
This kid is not to smart. Please go back to school and learn something!

The LNF engine can handle 400whp all day long.

And since your running 400whp all day long you know all there is to know.

So all LNF's that have 400whp are running on 100% stock internals and 100% stock clutch for thousands of miles without any problems at all???

chris88z24
11-16-2008, 11:10 PM
This kid is not to smart. Please go back to school and learn something!

The LNF engine can handle 400whp all day long.

I wouldn't call him dumb, we all have our own opinions.

I also suggest you go back to school and learn the proper use of "to, too and two".

WaRRioR-StaTuS
11-16-2008, 11:22 PM
I have the money and want this............but I bought an extended warrenty and it cost me some extra money and I don't want to void it yet DAMMMMMMMMMMM I have the money and can do this next week if I wanted, but I'll lose the warrenty, I need that lol DAMMIT Warrenty my car as a project kinda lol warrenty it as proof these cars can handle it lol and i'll buy it right now lol DO IT, YOU WON'T

JUICETURBOSS
11-16-2008, 11:27 PM
yes the clutch with have to be upgraded but the motor is capable of 400whp with stock internals.

northvibe
11-17-2008, 01:30 AM
Here is what happened. Me and rallyracer went to the chicago cobalt meet with chevy engineers. They stated at the meeting, the LNF was almost at its full potential around 300hp. Also if you look, most f35 transmission owners were blowing their tranny's over 300whp. Thus we were lead to believe that if the gmpp stage2 did come out for the lnf, it would be conservative. This is what GM told us, if you want to call people that listened to them "stupid" then you are calling GM engineers stupid...thus making your car purchase stupid... At any rate it seems the LNF is forged internals, so I could see it going up to 500hp, the transmission though...not so sure. All you kiddies need to stop repeating what you read in your spam email and barfing it out on the forums.

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 01:41 AM
I cant wait to see you around so i can laugh at your ms3 when i smoke it like every other one around Minnesota.

chris88z24
11-17-2008, 01:42 AM
I've seen F35's well over 300whp and holding strong... IT's ALL IN THE DRIVER.

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 01:46 AM
I brought my car to the track plenty of times and abused it on the street as well with every bolt on there is availble and i have had no issues.

beamSS
11-17-2008, 01:48 AM
I cant wait to see you on the streets so i can laugh at your ms3 when i smoke it like every other one around Minnesota.

VVOVV!:thumbsdow . you wont get a lot of friends here if you act like that.

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 01:49 AM
If you look in the new road & track the ms3 is about 3 seconds slower 0-120 than the cobalt ss/tc and the car tested was the sedan ss that weighs 90lbs more than the coupe.

northvibe
11-17-2008, 11:38 AM
I cant wait to see you around so i can laugh at your ms3 when i smoke it like every other one around Minnesota.

HAHA what a arrogant bitch. I already raced a TC and they didnt pull at all on me. we didnt have the best starts but I beat him 3 out of the 4 times.. AND I pulled hard. If I blew 4grand on my car for the same shit id be over 400whp so you can end the shit talking as you have nothing to back it up with. Go talk with brian with the black ss sc swapped to a turbo.. All you do is read, Ive seen and talked to him in person and he knows from real world experience. This isnt about my car though get back on topic.

This kit is sweet. Its cool to see someone finally making some improvements.

If you look in the new road & track the ms3 is about 3 seconds slower 0-120 than the cobalt ss/tc and the car tested was the sedan ss that weighs 90lbs more than the coupe.

so you can read a brochure but paper doesnt do much good once you get to the street does it :P

chris88z24
11-17-2008, 11:42 AM
CobaltSS.net - where every thread goes off topic in 3 pages or less!



You morons... keep it to a simple PM instead of clogging up the vendor's thread with useless shit. Nobody cares about your car or what you race or what you ate for breakfast. Nobody gives a shit. Simple.

Darkmanx
11-17-2008, 11:50 AM
CobaltSS.net - where every thread goes off topic in 3 pages or less!



You morons... keep it to a simple PM instead of clogging up the vendor's thread with useless shit. Nobody cares about your car or what you race or what you ate for breakfast. Nobody gives a shit. Simple.

I do

cobaltltblue
11-17-2008, 11:54 AM
Chris I will +5 to that. Now back on topic.....
Synapse.... so I will be getting mine as soon as it comes in. You should offer a 3 stage set up to the big $4000 kit. Like a DP, intake and exhaust for stage one $900. Stage 2 includes stage one with the intercooler upgrade as well $2000, then stage 3 the full turbo kit deal. I will be adding it piece by piece. So it would be good to have a running upgrade setup like this I can just call and say hey I have stage one send me what I need for stage 2!! Great support by the way +1.

SynapseTurbo
11-17-2008, 11:59 AM
Chris I will +5 to that. Now back on topic.....
Synapse.... so I will be getting mine as soon as it comes in. You should offer a 3 stage set up to the big $4000 kit. Like a DP, intake and exhaust for stage one $900. Stage 2 includes stage one with the intercooler upgrade as well $2000, then stage 3 the full turbo kit deal. I will be adding it piece by piece. So it would be good to have a running upgrade setup like this I can just call and say hey I have stage one send me what I need for stage 2!! Great support by the way +1.

We could do that, unfortunately there is no way to have all the parts other than the intercooler kit and exhaust work with both setups.

quadracer0387
11-17-2008, 12:02 PM
nice kit, sometimes i wish i had an lnf... but i also love my tvs

cobaltltblue
11-17-2008, 12:03 PM
what would that tune that comes with it do to a 09 with a 3" full exhaust and your intercoller upgrade?

SynapseTurbo
11-17-2008, 12:29 PM
what would that tune that comes with it do to a 09 with a 3" full exhaust and your intercoller upgrade?

Well, the car has an ability to hit the target o2 values with its wideband o2 feedback. But with any generic tune it's highly advised to get it optimized by a professional tuner, thus why we don't charge for our tune, we are simply providing the tune file for our car.

cobaltltblue
11-17-2008, 12:35 PM
OK sounds good I can't wait to get my TC so I can start ordering parts. It will be nice to have a car I can tune. when I got my 06 the NO TUNING options were hell, but thats off topic. So keep US all updated on that exhaust so we can give you a call. Oh and if by some chance my wife has a sharp blow to the head and lets me order the full kit......MUWAHAHAHA! (thats my Evil laugh)

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 12:57 PM
HAHA what a arrogant bitch. I already raced a TC and they didnt pull at all on me. we didnt have the best starts but I beat him 3 out of the 4 times.. AND I pulled hard. If I blew 4grand on my car for the same shit id be over 400whp so you can end the shit talking as you have nothing to back it up with. Go talk with brian with the black ss sc swapped to a turbo.. All you do is read, Ive seen and talked to him in person and he knows from real world experience. This isnt about my car though get back on topic.

This kit is sweet. Its cool to see someone finally making some improvements.



so you can read a brochure but paper doesnt do much good once you get to the street does it :P

Keep telling yourself this and maybe your car will be faster and why are you a member if you own a ms3 which is really a ford which= GARBAGE. You are on this thread trying to talk trash about cobalts you should join the mazda forum.

northvibe
11-17-2008, 01:15 PM
Keep telling yourself this and maybe your car will be faster and why are you a member if you own a ms3 which is really a ford which= GARBAGE. You are on this thread trying to talk trash about cobalts you should join the mazda forum.

haha very ignorant comment considering the ms3 is fully made in japan, i never trashed a cobalt..i almost bought one actually. Maybe you need to go to school to read? Im done talking to you.

So is this the biggest turbo that would fit? or is there more room for a bigger one? Do you notice any turbo lag now? Theres a company that is making new high performane injectors for the mzr 2.3 turbo, wonder if they would be able to make/help for the cobalt lnf.

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 01:24 PM
that is too funny.

06blackg85ss
11-17-2008, 01:38 PM
Don't the ms3 motors and trans fall out of the car when you launch lol. My boy darksun has one, and damn if it isn't the worst designed car for performance. (I'm not making fun of it, but mazda really did a shit job on the car.) btwn the balance shaft running off cyl 3 helping shit out rods, the horrible engine and trans mount design, and a few other little flaws I've noticed on the car... wasnt too pleases with it.

but sorry for the thread intrusion, back on topic.

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 01:40 PM
Don't the ms3 motors and trans fall out of the car when you launch lol. My boy darksun has one, and damn if it isn't the worst designed car for performance. (I'm not making fun of it, but mazda really did a shit job on the car.) btwn the balance shaft running off cyl 3 helping shit out rods, the horrible engine and trans mount design, and a few other little flaws I've noticed on the car... wasnt too pleases with it.

but sorry for the thread intrusion, back on topic.

Thank you!

07SCCobaltSS
11-17-2008, 02:41 PM
wow juice, it's kinda funny. he's giving you solid facts and you are goin after him with stupid remarks. how bout you just talk about what you are supposed to on the forum and show respect to all cars and their owners no matter what kinda car they drive. that's what makes a car community fun to be in. and he hangs out with me and a bunch of the other balt guys (s/c and t/c) and he's a good guy and shows lots of respect to other drivers and their rides.

you're entitled to your own opinion but when 2 people rallyracer and northvibe are both good friends of mine and i also know that they really did go talk with the gm guys about that stuff and they know their facts i believe what they say. i'm sure if you look around the forum you'll see that both of them comment and talk alot with people on here and are accepted members across the forum respected by many others you'll see that they usually don't just make crap up and post it to cause problems.

think what you want about what it can handle but when they give you solid facts from gm i'd probably go with it. whether it was them or anyone else unless you can find gm certified facts that say otherwise and show proof on the web. i think the kit is a nice kit but if it's pushin the limit i say make sure you prep your engine to handle it however you can

WaRRioR-StaTuS
11-17-2008, 03:18 PM
is there room for improvement on the transmission, like can I build mine to hold up to this kit?
Or should I just live with the fact that a few minor bolt ons is all the gains my car can deal with lol

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Facts? Are you kidding me? So why is the synapse car 370 whp if the car can not push barely anymore power than stock. Any answers?

is there room for improvement on the transmission, like can I build mine to hold up to this kit?
Or should I just live with the fact that a few minor bolt ons is all the gains my car can deal with lol

The only thing you should upgrade is the clutch. The axles you might want to upgrade if you plan on running slicks.

Here is what happened. Me and rallyracer went to the chicago cobalt meet with chevy engineers. They stated at the meeting, the LNF was almost at its full potential around 300hp. Also if you look, most f35 transmission owners were blowing their tranny's over 300whp. Thus we were lead to believe that if the gmpp stage2 did come out for the lnf, it would be conservative. This is what GM told us, if you want to call people that listened to them "stupid" then you are calling GM engineers stupid...thus making your car purchase stupid... At any rate it seems the LNF is forged internals, so I could see it going up to 500hp, the transmission though...not so sure. All you kiddies need to stop repeating what you read in your spam email and barfing it out on the forums.

This is the most nonsense i have heard in a long time!

SynapseTurbo
11-17-2008, 03:45 PM
We have absolutely beaten this car non stop, I would have no problem at all saying this car was built to take this kind of power. I would put a clutch in the car and go have fun. The rest of the drivetrain has loved the beaten we have given it.

JUICETURBOSS
11-17-2008, 03:52 PM
We have absolutely beaten this car non stop, I would have no problem at all saying this car was built to take this kind of power. I would put a clutch in the car and go have fun. The rest of the drivetrain has loved the beaten we have given it.

See even synapse is backing me up. The motor and trans are plenty strong to handle the abuse. Just put a clutch in.

cobaltltblue
11-18-2008, 10:32 AM
Hey Synapse has the facts to back up what they are saying. I don't see many if any other 370whp SS/TC's running around all on factory Componets. I support Synapse I think it will take it. Watch the vid on their web page. Look at the burnout they are not nice to that car. (within reason) You do enough WOT clutch drops on ANY car it will die. But again they look like they are pushing the car to me. Keep up the good work Guys.

06blackg85ss
11-18-2008, 01:13 PM
Facts? Are you kidding me? So why is the synapse car 370 whp if the car can not push barely anymore power than stock. Any answers?



The only thing you should upgrade is the clutch. The axles you might want to upgrade if you plan on running slicks.



This is the most nonsense i have heard in a long time!

umm my car is over 430whp and has been for months, aside from the stock pressure plate shitting itelf (06 ss/sc, new tc's have a stronger setup) The car has been flawless

pjk91
11-18-2008, 05:01 PM
Anything I say must be taken with a grain of salt. I'm also an arrogant person by nature, and have no people skills.


I've been on CSS.net for a long time, and I don't normally do this, but FYI: I don't like you much.

WaRRioR-StaTuS
11-18-2008, 10:21 PM
how much power with the gt30 compared to the 28?

SynapseTurbo
11-20-2008, 09:02 AM
how much power with the gt30 compared to the 28?

You can expect another 30whp at the same boost level, but there is going to be more lag. For the stock motor, the 2871r suits it very well.

Get your pre-orders in now, delivery of the kits will begin the second week in December, only 3 weeks away!

07SCCobaltSS
11-20-2008, 07:00 PM
I've been on CSS.net for a long time, and I don't normally do this, but FYI: I don't like you much.

:lol::lol::lol: love it

and btw nice avatar, i'm half tempted to join right now and work my way to a pilot, i'm the right height and vision so i'd have a chance if i worked hard enough for it and put the time into it

chris88z24
11-20-2008, 07:02 PM
You can expect another 30whp at the same boost level, but there is going to be more lag. For the stock motor, the 2871r suits it very well.

Get your pre-orders in now, delivery of the kits will begin the second week in December, only 3 weeks away!

Make a nice little Christmas gift eh? :cool:

KINGKOLE
03-18-2009, 10:26 PM
With the exchange rate as low as it is:( it would cost me a shit ton in Canadian dollars:( I would snatch this kit up if it was 4k Canadian! Kick ass kit tho!!

Allgood Customs
08-07-2009, 05:14 PM
is it possible to fit on an 08 lt balt. If it makes a difference it's a special edition but i don't think that matters.

northvibe
08-07-2009, 05:22 PM
is it possible to fit on an 08 lt balt. If it makes a difference it's a special edition but i don't think that matters.

do you mean it says "special edition" on a badge on the back?

Allgood Customs
08-07-2009, 11:48 PM
yeah

rallyracer
08-07-2009, 11:50 PM
If it makes a difference it's a special edition but i don't think that matters.

Special Edition AKA dealer rice sticker, sorry.

Allgood Customs
08-12-2009, 12:01 AM
Special Edition AKA dealer rice sticker, sorry. What makes that rice...explain

KINGKOLE
09-16-2009, 11:05 AM
now GM just finished up on a kit for this car that has a couple new sensors. getting those sensors instaled before takin my car your way for the ecotecnik help in an power gains???

rallyracer
09-16-2009, 04:11 PM
What makes that rice...explain

Dealers have a think book full of rice stuff to put on cars to try to make them appear more appealing in hoping to sell them faster and for more money. The special edition sticker is one of those things.


Here's a video I shoot at the Midwest meet of white Cobalt that has a sticker package added to it. The dealer was charging $800 for stickers...Special edition package is what they were calling it. :lol:

http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/19/22/649122_10.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/COBALT-XRAY_649122.htm?ref=62d6e372-0736-4697-b5af-ce145a0cb573)***+COBALT+XRAY+*** (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/COBALT-XRAY_649122.htm?ref=62d6e372-0736-4697-b5af-ce145a0cb573)