huge possibility , most likely swapping out the supercharger, dad says it doesnt have enough power. lol, so help with some ideas of turbos, and i want a nasty one, so no small ones, just the good stuff, thanks for the help

 

Get the hahn turbo kit!

 

definitely go with Hahn...best one out there

 

should i get the full stage 5 kit, or just the main peices, and peice it together myself?

 

how much is the complete stage 5 kit and where can you buy one from??

 

But what about twincharging? All stainless, it really is a work of art.
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yea definatley twincharge!

 

Read my sig. This doesn't go in General

 

i would have to agree on the twin charge, if i had the money itwould have been done by now but, they are pushing 460whp on race gas or something like that but aither way 350 hp on pump gas is insane!!!!

 

If you wanna go big i say gt35r

 

twin charge is a dream of mine...do it man!

 

There is many reason's only 1 person has twincharged....

 

Twin Charge/Turbo FTL!!

Why not TVS??? Cause after all, what's the use of 665106165146165fwhp when it can't be put to the ground.

 

I say TVS or turbo.

TVS if you want an all round fun car,

Turbo if you want a highway monster

 

Do not twin charge... it looks cool... but, just get the hahn kit. You can make way more SAFE power with just straight turbo.

Stage 5. All the way.

 

400+ HORSEPOWER TURBO CONVERSION KIT FEATURING GARRETT GT3071R

 

Do you realize that the ZZP twincharge kit bypasses the supercharger once the turbo spools?

The Hahn kit does not make as much power as the ZZP kit, so there is nothing "way more" about it, other than Hahn's price.

 

you obviously must not have read up on anything..

do you realize that the stock intake manifold sucks? probably not, because you dont know what your talking about.

the hahn kit, makes 400 hp easy... and not only that, it does it alot safer.

 

Nice try...


Hahn kit makes much safer hp and more of it

 

go one or the other. turbo IMO, way safer, and much more efficient on the motor, but be prepared to spend some money...

 

Let's consider a few things.

1. To claim that one kit is 'safer' you would have to have a reason, evidence, failures, etc to back your claim or you're just talking. Since no one with a twin charged kit has ever had an engine failure, I find it incredible to insinuate that it's not 'safe'. Yes, your clutch and axles will probably break if you don't upgrade them but that can be said for anything that makes crazy power.

2. The twin charged kit outdyno'd the hahn kit AND made double the HP at 3000 rpm. Here's the dyno graph to prove it. Look at the ZZP kit in red and the hahn in blue. Both are at the same PSI.


So why are we in here talking about what kit makes more power and ignoring the dyno's?

3. One kit is more expensive. This should be a consideration.

4. The TVS isn't in the same league as any turbo. Superchargers never are. Making a comparison is like comparing an NA 2.4 to a boosted 2.0

 

I prefer not to "read up" when there is nothing but hearsay and speculation to read. The approach we prefer to take is actual test procedure. We dyno test our turbo kits with EGTs, wideband O2s, multiple pressure sensors for intake and exhaust, etc... I know the real numbers. The ZZP kit outperforms the Hahn kit, no question.

 

Then explain to me why there are several people with the hahn kit and what 1 with the twincharge?

Dont get me wrong i think the twin charge is an awesome concept and it does look good on paper but its just not as safe and as simple as a turbo

 

zoomer, wasnt implying YOUR kit wasnt safe

im implying the stock intake mani isnt safe.

matt m... show me where zzp out performs?

 

In terms of simplicity, the ZZP kit has a couple extra vacuum lines and two boost controllers. Other than that it's just like a normal turbo kit. I believe many other kits require the M62 to be removed and the lower intake changed out. This being the case, the twin charged kit would be easier/quicker to install.

Again with the "safer" comment. ZZP has been twin charging for 4 years with no issues. The rumors of it being unsafe are just that, rumors. And that is why there are more people running the hahn kit.

People on this forum don't know what they are talking about and like to lie a lot. Look at people just in this thread talking about how much more power the hahn kit makes. You see it all the time. Then you're talking about how much safer the kit is. Other people talk about having to tune the twin charge kit every day. These lies and rumors scare the unknowing public into uninformed decisions based on false rumors. We assumed our reputation in the 3800 market would follow us over to the Cobalt one but it did not. People here are new modders and don't know ZZP. So we're just another vendor trying to sell a product in their minds. In the GP market, we are THE vendor so anything we say or sell is backed by long standing credibility. Soon we'll have more dyno's, track times and customers doing things that cannot be done with the current things in this market and in a year or two people will be talking about ZZP as THE vendor as well. Sadly, it appears we have a lot of work to do before we earn the deserved reputation.
And you know this how? Oh that's right, you don't. REminds me of how this forum used to say that 60# injectors weren't safe because cylinder 4 would run lean. That's how this market is. One guy who doesn't know much about a specific technical detail starts a rumor and then people start quoting it as if it was true and tested. It's not and the stock intake is plenty safe. That's why we were able to make more WHP than anyone ever in this market (who had a stock engine) with the stock mani

Here's another one:
Return style fuel system. People are buying this because it was said that it was needed. It's not but in a market of people who don't know much about cars, you can sell anything that appears needed, looks shiney or expensive. It's not how ZZP operates and in time we hope to establish a pattern of making more HP for less money with less aftermarket parts than any other vendor.