http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/vehicles/chevrolet/cruze/feature?adv=83944

It was only about time it made it's "upcoming" debut there! :)

I refuse to give a shit about this car until a coupe is announced.

Still no HID's and I am sure the side mirror are still not heated

would like to see it in a coupe form and maybe in a different color

nice car. think they could make the chevy symbol in the front any bigger?:lol:

I refuse to give a shit about this car until a coupe is announced.

Still no HID's and I am sure the side mirror are still not heated

Okay guys. Grow up. Seriously. This car could be a huge deal for GM. Making a compact, inexpensive, sporty car like this is something totally out of their league. Remember this thing is still in the works. There's a reason why they're waiting until 2011 to release it. And if you don't get your precious coupe, whoop-de-freaking-do. Bonus there is you get two extra doors you can throw crap into and two extra doors to use to get your friends/family in and out of. Yes, I'd like to see a coupe, but it's not the end of the world. What's the advantage of heated mirrors? Extra energy wasted? I see no point for them to be heated. My unheated ones are working just fine for me.

I really get tired of you lot bitching about a car that's three years away. Give your head a shake for goodness sake. :thumbsdow

I am sure the side mirror are still not heated

You aren't flying an airplane, my friend. I'm certain you will survive without it on your entry level, economy car. ;)

is this the car that is going to replace teh cobalt?

This car *could* be huge for GM. I have high hopes for it, especially if they can do some of the stuff we've posted on here that we'd all like to see for the new Cruze both in design and features. We shall see.....

EXTERIOR = Ok
Interior= BEAUTIFUL

is this the car that is going to replace teh cobalt?

Yup, by the sounds of it it will. Hopefully it's priced the same. Looking pretty high tech inside. I always like that. :lol:

entry level? this cars pricing was at 40l last time i checked, did it some how drop below the aveo?
some HID's would be nice, they use less energy and provide better lighting, and for 40k+ id expect the car to have the works, rims no smaller than 18's on the base model, power eveything, heated seats, mirros the worx

I would seriously doubt 40K; but if GM wises up they will offer the car will all of the comforts we enjoy in our SS's- i.e. heated leather seats, a comprehensive driver info center, onstar, navigation, the works. In my opinion, GM's management has missed its mark completely. Ultimately people will want fuel economy and comfort. $4 gas WILL become a constant and people are wanting something to commute in that is stylish, comfortable, and dependable. GM has a great car in the Cobalt, but people wanting mileage and creature comforts aren't looking at an SS/TC or at an LS with hand crank windows and cloth seats. Who cares if GM changes the name and tweaks the chasis as they did in ditching the J-body in favor of the Cobalt, they will still have missed the mark unless the Cruz comes with all of the amenities offered by the various Ricers and a 2.2 Ecotech that will get 40mpg.

Is it just me or does the cruze look like an american corolla? Like the new malibu deeply resembles the camry.

Oogly. I won't buy it, just because they ain't stickin with the name "Cobalt" which is a 100x better name for a car, than "Cruze" This ain't California surfer dudes!

it seems that the age of body kits and spoilers are coming to an end with these cars that have all these sharp lines. I say they keep the cobalt but w/e...maybe this will bring down the price of parts for us :)

I would seriously doubt 40K; but if GM wises up they will offer the car will all of the comforts we enjoy in our SS's- i.e. heated leather seats, a comprehensive driver info center, onstar, navigation, the works. In my opinion, GM's management has missed its mark completely. Ultimately people will want fuel economy and comfort. $4 gas WILL become a constant and people are wanting something to commute in that is stylish, comfortable, and dependable. GM has a great car in the Cobalt, but people wanting mileage and creature comforts aren't looking at an SS/TC or at an LS with hand crank windows and cloth seats. Who cares if GM changes the name and tweaks the chasis as they did in ditching the J-body in favor of the Cobalt, they will still have missed the mark unless the Cruz comes with all of the amenities offered by the various Ricers and a 2.2 Ecotech that will get 40mpg.

Assuming the car is infact the replacement of the Cobalt, there is no way it will be $40k. Maybe $30k with every option added. Chevy/GM would not eliminate their upper-entry level economy car in favor of something costing 2x as much, and leave that void open for the competitors to devour.

actual production model WILL vary

says down at the bottom... dont drool yet

interior (dash) just screams honda and a few of the mazda 3's thoughs hybrid or w/e new ones

think they could make the chevy symbol in the front any bigger?:lol:

Yes.


:lol:

I love the Cruze. Can't wait for it to come out!

to be honest... this car could do good for the company. yea it doesnt have the balls of the lsj and the lnf but its going to be dirt cheap and get great millage. and thats what people are craving. and im sure it will take about 2.5 seconds for people to start doing swaps on the SS model. thats going to be the first race... who can be the first to make 250 hp with the stock internals.

but think about. u get a brand new car for 13k put 4k in upgrades and u got a sweet car.

Do not want.

yea i dont care much unless theres a coupe with a high powered LNF and maybe some other goodies the cobalt doesnt have then its worth paying attention to

I refuse to give a shit about this car until a coupe is announced.
Even with a coupe I'm not convinced I'm really going to care...I'm going to enjoy the SS/TC for the next 5+ years at which point I will admit defeat and likely be forced into some fuel efficient commuter mobile that's boring as balls to drive :lol:. That seems to be the way of the future :).

In all seriousness I can see the appeal of the vehicle, particularly if GM moves ahead with the interior shown in the production models. Long story short I viewed this as my last chance to own an SS with the inevitable house purchase up and coming and is the only reason I traded my LS in (amongst the incentives being offered by the dealer). I'm curious to see what 2010/2011 brings with the Cruze when they start popping up around here :).

My comment was not out of hatred... trust me. I support GM in all of their endeavours and wish them the best, but for the love all of that is holy, if the Cobalt coupe goes there better be a Cruze coupe.

My comment was not out of hatred... trust me. I support GM in all of their endeavours and wish them the best, but for the love all of that is holy, if the Cobalt coupe goes there better be a Cruze coupe.
Totally agree (and didnt think you were directing your comment out of hatred :)) and I can't see why they wouldn't consider producing both unless they're trying at all costs to avoid constant overstock on lots. The majority of consumers purchase 4 doors (particularly in a model such as this) since they are buying for family, convenience, etc. so that MIGHT be an argument against both particularly with the current state of the economy. I'm trying to picture the car in a 2 door model and with the lines of the car can see it working, but I suppose only time will tell.

Permafried-

Is it just me or does the cruze look like an american corolla? Like the new malibu deeply resembles the camry.

Yeah, I was thinking it looked a lot like a Malibu. And I figure they should only have a coupe if they have a performance version. Usually when someone gets 2 doors instead of 4 they want the sportier look, but if there isn't any performance version then there is no point. Otherwise you just have a 2 door economy car that really doesn't do anything.

I like it. I hope GM has great success with this one.

I think this front grill looks way better...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SQoTKFSFyzI/AAAAAAABBJo/aMfIgPr5UW4/s400/Daewoo-Lacetti-2009-0.jpg

It looks great and all but it seems like everything I read about this car from GM says something about it being a performance vehicle of some type or at least that it has some sort of performance roots. Does GM know that they made a larger car than the Cobalt by a good margin? I mean I'm not dissing FWD by any means but if you're going to make a larger, FWD, apparently sedan exclusive (for now) vehicle...you really shouldn't be saying much about the "performance" car aspect of it. I mean we all know that the new model (06+) eclipses are a handling and torque steer nightmare, so even it they did make a fast coupe of some type I wouldn't count on it one-upping the current Cobalt SS. Big and Heavy + FWD is not a good combo for performance. Light and nimble like the cobalt on the other hand is very fun! It's perfectly fine if you want to create a new age econo-sedan that is roomier than it's competitors...but please, GM, don't get too fixed on it being some type of M3 sedan alternative or something.

Is it just me or does the cruze look like an american corolla? Like the new malibu deeply resembles the camry.

I'll definitely disagree with you there. Toyotas are shit. The Malibu LTZ is nicer than any car Toyota offers.

Is it just me or does the cruze look like an american corolla? Like the new malibu deeply resembles the camry.

Please stop using drugs.

I love the interior but the exterior is kinda ugly. The back end is horrific. I do hope GM does great on this. but it's not something im willing to buy.

chevy needs to start implementing soft touch interior. other wise its epic fail. I think the cobalts interior was good, clean and conservative, but it got such harsh reviews cuz lack of the soft touch meterials. the cruze looks to be the same way, hard plastics, although nice looking and clean styling, still not soft touch, the 2010 camaro is the same as well. GM needs to spend a lil more money and effort and put some soft touch material on the dash and door panels, that will help reviews and sales imho. other wise nice car. love the interior styling, very slick.

I'll definitely disagree with you there. Toyotas are shit. The Malibu LTZ is nicer than any car Toyota offers.

I agree with ya.

There's a reason Consumer Reports won't/can't recommend Toyota products anymore.

screw that car

I think this front grill looks way better...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/SQoTKFSFyzI/AAAAAAABBJo/aMfIgPr5UW4/s400/Daewoo-Lacetti-2009-0.jpg

why does this have a daewoo bowtie in the front? gm bought daewoo a few years back and all the daewoos are now chevys

I actually like it. :)

chevy needs to start implementing soft touch interior. other wise its epic fail. I think the cobalts interior was good, clean and conservative, but it got such harsh reviews cuz lack of the soft touch meterials. the cruze looks to be the same way, hard plastics, although nice looking and clean styling, still not soft touch, the 2010 camaro is the same as well. GM needs to spend a lil more money and effort and put some soft touch material on the dash and door panels, that will help reviews and sales imho. other wise nice car. love the interior styling, very slick.

I agree I do like how the interior looks in the cruze but they could use some different materials other than plastic

chevy needs to start implementing soft touch interior. other wise its epic fail. I think the cobalts interior was good, clean and conservative, but it got such harsh reviews cuz lack of the soft touch meterials. the cruze looks to be the same way, hard plastics, although nice looking and clean styling, still not soft touch, the 2010 camaro is the same as well. GM needs to spend a lil more money and effort and put some soft touch material on the dash and door panels, that will help reviews and sales imho. other wise nice car. love the interior styling, very slick.

Stfu old timer! What the hell do you know?!





















:p:

Stfu old timer! What the hell do you know?!





















:p:

obviously i know more then u, since i'm not the one driving a honduh. lol

obviously i know more then u, since i'm not the one driving a honduh. lol

Did your mullet come standard when you bought your camaro? ;)

I refuse to give a shit about this car until a coupe is announced.

VERY AGREE !!!!

Did your mullet come standard when you bought your camaro? ;)

actually grew one out just for the purchase. once it got to a nice length i went on lookin for my good ol' camaro i wreckon. aint she a bute. lol

Do not want.

+1 not even for free. ♦

Go Pens!!!

I agree with Gabe in the liking of this said vehicle.

I love the interior!

Heres to hoping they come out with a coupe, and an SS.

there better be some decent engines in it. No 1.8L junk:nono:

What will the Cruze offer that the Malibu doesn't already?

The exterior is waasty...but the interior makes me a bit envious.

I cannot stand this thing. The front view isn't bad, but that's as far as it goes. The side and back...

This car doesn't have NEARLY as much style as The Cobalt... and that seriously depresses me. This is like when Dodge discontinued the Neon... and the Neon wasn't even as GOOD as the Cobalt. America needs a cheap little compact that appeals to kids. I'm in college and about 1 in every 20 cars is a Cobalt. It's stylish, its American and it appeals to young people.

Of course... 1 in every 15 cars is either a Charger, a Mustang or a Camaro, but I can't figure out how these kids can afford it for the life of me.

Either way... the Cruze really doesn't have nearly as much going for it as the Cobalt... and as much as I hope GM succeeds... but this is such a DUMB... decision... even from the business perspective.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2009/aug/18/cobalt-demand-cruze-preparations-prompt-worker/

If the demand for the car is INCREASING, why are they discontinuing it?

There is only so long you can milk it. The design is over 5 years old , it is just better to start just from scratch. It's a tool like saying but you cannot polish a turd. The cobalt has the reputation as cheap and bland. So you throw something new and updated into the crowd and viola. Demand for the cruze. Unless you have a 2.4 or 2.0 the car looks bland, it more so looks like a dune buggy just swap the antenna with a flag.

Bland cars are "in" these days and I personally find the Cruze to be very, very bland. I'm a bit of an artist-type, so I like curves and things that bring contrast and shadows into the look of a vehicle. Something like that little groove above the Cobalt's wheels really matters a lot to me... the whole entire side of the Cruze is just flat. It has to ascetic appeal at all. Frankly, I don't think the bad reviews on the Cobalt should matter, seeing as it sells really, really well... at least around here. I'm crazy about Cobalts. I tend to notice them every time one passes by. It's like "punch bug" in my car, but with "COBALT!" and an over-enthusiastic point in said direction.

Cobalt looks awfully stale these days. Too many years with out any body changes.

Looks like just another cheap gas saver. There is nothing sporty about it...

Looks like just another cheap gas saver. There is nothing sporty about it...

not ATM--but the potential is there

Even if GM doesnt have a coupe or ss model this year how do you know they might not have it in future years? Was the cobalt ss stock with a sc the first year cobalts were released? They also ended up going super to turbo which was a good idea I think so maybe GM is saving something up for like 2012 who knows. Guess we'll find out sooner or later.

idk if this has been stated yet, but is it just me or does the Cruze look like an angry Malibu?

They gave the go ahead for the z28 so why dont the keep making cobalt ss's. This new car is weak. They dont even have the power of the old cavaliers unless they have a model i havent seen.

nothing sporty about it.
and i hear its gonna be pretty pricey.
either way, in 3 years i don't expect to get another chevy.
looks like another family car to me.
i'm sure to some people it'll be useful, but for the younger people on css that aren't thinking about a family for quite sometime its a fail since it is replacing the cobalt.

im tired of them constantly making new model cars and discontinuing cars and shit. if they just stick with the cobalt and redisign it, maybe make a convertible, just keep building off what you already have. look at mustangs, and civics, they have been around for years and years. this car doesnt look to sporty to me, looks like it would compete with the nissan altima or something. if they put this interior in our car it would a different story.

I hate the ppl that keep hanging on GM's nuts and always say well theres gonna be a SS model "we hope". Those are the ppl that GM walks all over. The Cobalt is still a new car, I drive around and even dealerships dont ever see a SS if they even know what it is. I went to 4 dealerships down back at home and only 1 guy has ever seen one before and the other guys didnt even knew it exist but after I gave them a quick tour of the car they wanted one.

idk if this has been stated yet, but is it just me or does the Cruze look like an angry Malibu?

Nah, more like a Malibu with Downs Syndrome

I get that its an economy car... but why are they downgrading the power so much? Ford is preparing to bring over the Focus RS and possibly a lower turbo model. And Chevy is doing a 1.4 turbo that makes 170hp? seriously wtf is GM thinking?

that car is just fuggin oooogly. Hard to believe they're replacing the cobalt with THAT! not that the cobalt is an awsome looking car, but thats just UGLY! like only a mother could love ugly haha

looks like another turd from chevy

I get that its an economy car... but why are they downgrading the power so much? Ford is preparing to bring over the Focus RS and possibly a lower turbo model. And Chevy is doing a 1.4 turbo that makes 170hp? seriously wtf is GM thinking?

You really think that the majority of people who willing buys a compact car is looking for lot's of power?? Think again. The engine choice is so GM will have the best fuel economy of any non-hybrid/diesel compact car and that's what most people want.

looks like another turd from chevy

Dare to tell me what other "turds" Chevy currently makes?

You drive a Cobalt and yet you're calling a superior car a turd...:thumbsdow

Fuck this god damn peice of shit...anyone who buys this 4door accord can shove it up their fucking assholes until they bleed victory red.

Yeah i myself am even sorta sick of my balt...but ima keep it and finish payin it off, only 2.5 years to go on my 08 maybe less if i put extra...i have deff been liking the new genesis coupe...Who cant like a turboed inline 4 RWD.

That car is FUGLY. GM wants to come out of this shit and actually make a profit....they better design some shit with an appeal with performance and quality at a good price. The Cruze is a failed abortion IMO.

Yeah i myself am even sorta sick of my balt...but ima keep it and finish payin it off, only 2.5 years to go on my 08 maybe less if i put extra...i have deff been liking the new genesis coupe...Who cant like a turboed inline 4 RWD.

You know the NA 3.8 has I believe over 100HP more stock. The turbo version has only 210HP and weighs appx 400lbs more than our car. 0-60 in 7.0 and it runs the strip in 15.3 @ 92MPH. NO THANKS

If I were gonna buy a Genesis....... 3.8L V6 Track version and mod FTW

Fuck this god damn peice of shit...anyone who buys this 4door accord can shove it up their fucking assholes until they bleed victory red.

You need mental help. Seriously.

That car is FUGLY. GM wants to come out of this shit and actually make a profit....they better design some shit with an appeal with performance and quality at a good price. The Cruze is a failed abortion IMO.



You know the NA 3.8 has I believe over 100HP more stock. The turbo version has only 210HP and weighs appx 400lbs more than our car. 0-60 in 7.0 and it runs the strip in 15.3 @ 92MPH. NO THANKS

If I were gonna buy a Genesis....... 3.8L V6 Track version and mod FTW

So you know the quality of this vehicle personally?

Can you tell me what this weeks lotto numbers will be as well?

the only one that needs mental help is gm for getting rid of the cobalt after like 5 years, and finally getting the damn thing right.

the only one that needs mental help is gm for getting rid of the cobalt after like 5 years, and finally getting the damn thing right.

Cobalt has no place in the current GM.

Shitty car is shitty.

Dare to tell me what other "turds" Chevy currently makes?

You drive a Cobalt and yet you're calling a superior car a turd...:thumbsdow



I guess you decided to ignore the fact that I said "ANOTHER TURD"
Cobalts are turds too relax.

sure I will "dare" to list a few more..
chevy aveo....shit
chevy cobalt.....shit
chevy cruze....shit
chevy HHR....shit

thats just from this year. lets go back in time to the cavalier days...


dont get me wrong....i support GM. but they do produce some garbage.

I guess you decided to ignore the fact that I said "ANOTHER TURD"
Cobalts are turds too relax.

sure I will "dare" to list a few more..
chevy aveo....shit
chevy cobalt.....shit
chevy cruze....shit
chevy HHR....shit

thats just from this year. lets go back in time to the cavalier days...


dont get me wrong....i support GM. but they do produce some garbage.

How can you even call the Cruze shit? You've never driven it.

This year? The Cruze isn't on sale here yet...

How can you even call the Cruze shit? You've never driven it.

This year? The Cruze isn't on sale here yet...

why dont you come over here and let me pull on your dick for a little while...so i can ram it up your fucking stomach.

why dont you come over here and let me pull on your dick for a little while...so i can ram it up your fucking stomach.

Watch who you're talking to kiddo.

why dont you come over here and let me pull on your dick for a little while...so i can ram it up your fucking stomach.

wow, really? is that how y'all do it down there in 'bama? you really need to settle down kid, take a deep breath and go make out with your sister.

all i have to say about the Cruze is:barf:

why dont you come over here and let me pull on your dick for a little while...so i can ram it up your fucking stomach.

http://www.untoldentertainment.com/blog/img/2009_09_15/spaghetti.jpg

How can you even call the Cruze shit? You've never driven it.

This year? The Cruze isn't on sale here yet...


yes i have driven the cruze. i drove when i drove my sisters cavalier....i drove it when i got a base model cobalt as a rental.....i drove it when i rode in a friends lumina.....

thats all it is...the next generation base model chevy....they are all the same. boring, unattractive and cheap.

i dont understand why people are excited for this car...it's like people on a mustang enthusiast website getting all ramped up for the release of the probe...

:thumbsdow

yes i have driven the cruze. i drove when i drove my sisters cavalier....i drove it when i got a base model cobalt as a rental.....i drove it when i rode in a friends lumina.....

thats all it is...the next generation base model chevy....they are all the same. boring, unattractive and cheap.

i dont understand why people are excited for this car...it's like people on a mustang enthusiast website getting all ramped up for the release of the probe...

:thumbsdow

Please. End your life.

Your life bares no meaning if you lump a Lumina, Cavalier or a Cobalt in with the Cruze. Not only have you clearly not read the reviews, but your post makes you seem like a typical GM basher. So fuck off and don't quote my post anymore unless you can bring a valid argument to it.

YOUR

:lol:

YOUR

:lol:

STFU fatty :p:

Please. End your life.

Your life bares no meaning if you lump a Lumina, Cavalier or a Cobalt in with the Cruze. Not only have you clearly not read the reviews, but your post makes you seem like a typical GM basher. So fuck off and don't quote my post anymore unless you can bring a valid argument to it.


Listen tard....I am no GM basher. I own a Chevy and in my last post I said..."i support GM." Maybe that wasn't clear enough for you.

Reviews? Fuck reviews...
Reviews say South Park is a crappy show....and that shit's halarious

If you think the Cruze is gonna be a tight car...it might be time to start taking those pills the doctor keeps trying to perscribe you

Listen tard....I am no GM basher. I own a Chevy and in my last post I said..."i support GM." Maybe that wasn't clear enough for you.

Reviews? Fuck reviews...
Reviews say South Park is a crappy show....and that shit's halarious

If you think the Cruze is gonna be a tight car...it might be time to start taking those pills the doctor keeps trying to perscribe you

When did I ever say the Cruze was tight?

The Cruze is a on a MUCH higher level that any other base Chevy. GM has changed and they no longer fuck around when it comes to making a quality vehicle. FACT.

When did I ever say the Cruze was tight?

The Cruze is a on a MUCH higher level that any other base Chevy. GM has changed and they no longer fuck around when it comes to making a quality vehicle. FACT.

Jesus...

Deftones suck btw

Jesus...

Deftones suck btw

Nice come back.....

/sarcasm.

not a come back.....

a statement

That so...

Well sorry to burst your bubble, but the Deftones don't suck and the Cruze is a quality car.

Nice e-arguing gentlemen...lmao

This Cruze looks like an Opel I saw when I was in the UAE. If its the same platform that car was nice as hell. I would have to say GM is changing the way they make compact cars. All the ones I saw in Europe and in Middle East are a lot nicer than what they sale here. They actuall look at Chevy the way we do a BMW or Mercedes. Hopefully a better GM car is on the way!!

Nice e-arguing gentlemen...lmao

ur right that was retarded

wow, really? is that how y'all do it down there in 'bama? you really need to settle down kid, take a deep breath and go make out with your sister.

i got a better idea, how about i fuck your sister in the ass, then make her suck the shit off my dick. then she can wabble over to your crying how i fucked the shit out of her.

You really think that the majority of people who willing buys a compact car is looking for lot's of power?? Think again. The engine choice is so GM will have the best fuel economy of any non-hybrid/diesel compact car and that's what most people want.


I understand that... it just seems to be too much of a step down. I just hope theres something on the performance front. However I dont consider 140-170hp a lot of power. Ive wanted to get out and help push my cobalt and its rated as being faster than any of the current cruze line... I know the interior is higher quality. It looks pretty nice from what ive seen. The body isnt horrible... though some how it reminds me of the current aveo...

i got a better idea, how about i fuck your sister in the ass, then make her suck the shit off my dick. then she can wabble over to your crying how i fucked the shit out of her.

:facepalm:

you are such a douche bag. this is a public forum and you are going to talk like this? wow.... you are soooo mature. you are nothing but a waste of life. oh and just so you know, i dont have a sister. i do have a brother tho, so.... yea..... there you go again talking about doing sexual acts with men again. just come out of the closet, it's ok, i'm sure your parents won't disown you.... they most likely already dont give a crap about you. so you can DIAF. kthxbye.

Wow, this is getting really heated...you guys should totally calm down!

Wow, this is getting really heated...you guys should totally calm down!

yea.... this thread shouldn't get so heated. something is seriously wrong with that kid. maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a child or maybe he had a weird uncle that touched him his private places. i dont know :shrugs:

Who the fuck? STFU children, your acting like a bunch of bitches.

Eh...i don't know if i like it, it still seems to close to an aveo for me.

I would like to see a coupe form.

And to the dude who said "blah blah two extra doors to throw shit into" whatever dude not everyone wants to drive a fucking car that is one step closer to a grocery hauling, whiny brat toting, sorry excuse for a "SPORTY" car. Your the kinda test market that convinced Chrysler it was a fantastic idea to take a good solid name like CHARGER and put it on a 4 door fat ass not cool looking at all grocery hauling, whiny brat toting, sorry excuse for a muscle car. FAIL!!!!

Typical css.net stuff.

I for one am excited about the Cruze as it is...I really wish the turbo diesel model would be available here, but I know that won't happen.

I like the looks of the Malibu and as someone said, it looks like a smaller, angrier Malibu...better styled than the Malibu and based on Opel...can't go wrong...look at the Solstice and Sky...the were based on Opel...wonderful cars.

GM really is starting to turn things around...it's not just about power, they are going after the Civic owners, the Corolla owners, the Jetta owners, etc. They want to put a QUALITY car out...higher quality materials and a better overall car for the money.

This will be a good thing...and I can't guarantee it, but I am sure they will come out with a coupe for all you whiners...maybe even a performance model down the road...but if they do a 1.4 turbo, there will be plenty to upgrade. I can see 300hp easily from one of those with upgrades.

Who the fuck? STFU children, your acting like a bunch of bitches.

Eh...i don't know if i like it, it still seems to close to an aveo for me.

I would like to see a coupe form.

And to the dude who said "blah blah two extra doors to throw shit into" whatever dude not everyone wants to drive a fucking car that is one step closer to a grocery hauling, whiny brat toting, sorry excuse for a "SPORTY" car. Your the kinda test market that convinced Chrysler it was a fantastic idea to take a good solid name like CHARGER and put it on a 4 door fat ass not cool looking at all grocery hauling, whiny brat toting, sorry excuse for a muscle car. FAIL!!!!

Hey captain, it's HOCKEY SEASON YAY!

And to the dude who said "blah blah two extra doors to throw shit into" whatever dude not everyone wants to drive a fucking car that is one step closer to a grocery hauling, whiny brat toting, sorry excuse for a "SPORTY" car. Your the kinda test market that convinced Chrysler it was a fantastic idea to take a good solid name like CHARGER and put it on a 4 door fat ass not cool looking at all grocery hauling, whiny brat toting, sorry excuse for a muscle car. FAIL!!!!

And what is the Challenger? It's 2-door, but it's no better...still a fat ass car that's a pretty sorry excuse...the only thing it has going for it is looks...Mustang and Camaro are more sports car than that thing. Is the Cobalt SS/TC sedan a sad excuse because it's 4-doors? How about both SS/TC's because they're FWD...

Come on...

If you want a sad excuse for a "sporty" car at least talk about the 2 ton Taurus SHO...

I have a friend with a Charger R/T and that thing is no slouch...I can only imagine what the SRT8 version has to offer.

I for one am excited about the Cruze as it is...I really wish the turbo diesel model would be available here, but I know that won't happen.

I like the looks of the Malibu and as someone said, it looks like a smaller, angrier Malibu...better styled than the Malibu and based on Opel...can't go wrong...look at the Solstice and Sky...the were based on Opel...wonderful cars.

GM really is starting to turn things around...it's not just about power, they are going after the Civic owners, the Corolla owners, the Jetta owners, etc. They want to put a QUALITY car out...higher quality materials and a better overall car for the money.

This will be a good thing...and I can't guarantee it, but I am sure they will come out with a coupe for all you whiners...maybe even a performance model down the road...but if they do a 1.4 turbo, there will be plenty to upgrade. I can see 300hp easily from one of those with upgrades.

The 1.4l may not be that easy to upgrade. I imagine to get the almost lag free performance that is required for a factory car will severely limit the turbo size and the extra performance you can push out of it. I mean there going to need something even smaller than a k03. Simply because people don't like to buy cars that lag alot especially with economy cars. Each one of the turbos on a BMW 335 is smaller than a deck of cards. And they have 1.5l going into each turbo.

Wow! I've never seen so much ignorance in my life. Yes GM got the Cobalt SS Turbo right finally....But for fuck sake don't compare the base Cobalt to the Base Cruze. The Cobalt base i'm currently driving as a rental is fucking dogshit. It's fugly as hell, the interior is crap, the seats are square and uncomfortable, the styling is a failed attempt at a Neon, the suspension creaks and groans over eveything, the suspension throws you into the passenger seat when it body rolls like a motherfucker, it sucks gas worse than my 260 hp Cobalt Turbo, it has decent power but in a package this cheap with a steering wheel that feels like Frozen puppy shit it's no wonder they're hanging this model to make way for the Cruze. Thank god half of you don't run GM. I think GM listened too much to people like you before. The Cruze is exactly the car the world needs from GM right now. Look how many Civics and Corollas sell per year. The base models not the sporty ones.....Now envision how a car with an interior that's well above the Civic and Corolla, with styling that looks quite a bit like the G8 from a side profile and a gorgeous front (mediocre rear but oh well) and a very small displacement Turbo engine (sound like the LNF much?) with direct injection, a sporty suspension and contrary to what half of you seem not to know a comporable sticker price to Toyota and Hondas vehicles of the same class what's not to love? This is the car that if successful will make future compact sport models a possibility again for Chevy. So start liking it because the fact that a 1.4L engine is making 170 HP...BTW if they do the gearing right, with the addition of the Turbo it wont be slower and might in fact be quicker than the current base Cobalt...That fact means that it will blow the doors off the competition. Ford is making a mistake with the RS because with the new Cafe standards most people will jump ship from the Mustang because if my SS T/C can keep up with a GT at only 260HP just imagine what the RS can do.....To me it's still a Ford, it got piss poor reviews for the most part in Europe and it will be way too overpriced like the Taurus. Sorry Ford circles the problem perfectly and it's a big serving of fail. Good on GM for brining out the Cruze and I wish them success. I'll be buying it next and keeping my SS as my toy.

why dont you come over here and let me pull on your dick for a little while...so i can ram it up your fucking stomach.


LMAO! Jesus Christ what are you five? Why the fuck do you wanna' pull on his dick? Does him talking down to you get you off or something? I can well imagine your panting like a dog right now fantasizing but wow......You just offered some guy you've never met a handjob? Now I just have to figure what you have less of.....Teeth or brain cells......Tough one.....Oh well, good luck finding a dick to pull and while your at it, get a towel and and whipe your fucking mouth because your talking some serious shit!

:lock: < Maybe you can try and find the key to your chastity belt first......All that pent up tension......

Wow! I've never seen so much ignorance in my life. Yes GM got the Cobalt SS Turbo right finally....But for fuck sake don't compare the base Cobalt to the Base Cruze. The Cobalt base i'm currently driving as a rental is fucking dogshit. It's fugly as hell, the interior is crap, the seats are square and uncomfortable, the styling is a failed attempt at a Neon, the suspension creaks and groans over eveything, the suspension throws you into the passenger seat when it body rolls like a motherfucker, it sucks gas worse than my 260 hp Cobalt Turbo, it has decent power but in a package this cheap with a steering wheel that feels like Frozen puppy shit it's no wonder they're hanging this model to make way for the Cruze. Thank god half of you don't run GM. I think GM listened too much to people like you before. The Cruze is exactly the car the world needs from GM right now. Look how many Civics and Corollas sell per year. The base models not the sporty ones.....Now envision how a car with an interior that's well above the Civic and Corolla, with styling that looks quite a bit like the G8 from a side profile and a gorgeous front (mediocre rear but oh well) and a very small displacement Turbo engine (sound like the LNF much?) with direct injection, a sporty suspension and contrary to what half of you seem not to know a comporable sticker price to Toyota and Hondas vehicles of the same class what's not to love? This is the car that if successful will make future compact sport models a possibility again for Chevy. So start liking it because the fact that a 1.4L engine is making 170 HP...BTW if they do the gearing right, with the addition of the Turbo it wont be slower and might in fact be quicker than the current base Cobalt...That fact means that it will blow the doors off the competition. Ford is making a mistake with the RS because with the new Cafe standards most people will jump ship from the Mustang because if my SS T/C can keep up with a GT at only 260HP just imagine what the RS can do.....To me it's still a Ford, it got piss poor reviews for the most part in Europe and it will be way too overpriced like the Taurus. Sorry Ford circles the problem perfectly and it's a big serving of fail. Good on GM for brining out the Cruze and I wish them success. I'll be buying it next and keeping my SS as my toy.




LMAO! Jesus Christ what are you five? Why the fuck do you wanna' pull on his dick? Does him talking down to you get you off or something? I can well imagine your panting like a dog right now fantasizing but wow......You just offered some guy you've never met a handjob? Now I just have to figure what you have less of.....Teeth or brain cells......Tough one.....Oh well, good luck finding a dick to pull and while your at it, get a towel and and whipe your fucking mouth because your talking some serious shit!

:lock: < Maybe you can try and find the key to your chastity belt first......All that pent up tension......


Your logic is a bit flawed on the Mustang.

2011
5.0L 400hp v8
3.7L 315hp v6

So a 300hp fwd Focus RS isnt going to really hurt those sales. But it could very well help the ford focus line. And wow you really are a bandwagon chevy fan. Now granted this is a Chevy site.. But the Ford Focus RS is well known and Well loved by automotive press and the public. As far as the Turbo cobalt keeping up. Sure it can but the cobalt feels like a lot less can than the current mustang and honestly Id sure hope 260hp @3000lbs could keep up with 300hp @ 3400lbs. But the mustang feels a lot more solid and not as cheap as the tc. Also keep in mind the Mustang runs on 87 octane the TC doesnt.

But all of this is off topic.

Honestly to me the cruze looks good on the inside but the outside screams aveo to me which kills it for me.

im drunk so FUCK MY ASSHOLE.



jesus christ nobody can take a damn joke, even if its weird and threatful....

we need " just kidding " font on here.

Hey captain, it's HOCKEY SEASON YAY!

Hell yeah man, get the old thread fired up lol! Im glad i have something worth while to watch on tv again damn it. lol

The 1.4l may not be that easy to upgrade. I imagine to get the almost lag free performance that is required for a factory car will severely limit the turbo size and the extra performance you can push out of it. I mean there going to need something even smaller than a k03. Simply because people don't like to buy cars that lag alot especially with economy cars. Each one of the turbos on a BMW 335 is smaller than a deck of cards. And they have 1.5l going into each turbo.

I guess we just wait and see...Since the engine is to be used in Opel's Astra as well, I would imagine it will have a decent aftermarket in a few years.

The Bimmer is very upgradeable (yes I know the cars aren't really comparable at all), but I have hope for this...that's why I won't be buying a first model year, I'll wait one to 2 years before I consider buying one.

I mean look at the Pontiac G6...my wife bought an 05 G6 V6 brand new off the showroom floor. The Base and GT were the only options...no coupe, no convertible, no GTP or GXP. Within a couple years they offered all those options...I'm confident GM will do something similar...they'll probably offer a coupe within a year or two depending on sales. They may offer a performance oriented version within that time frame as well. We'll just have to wait and see.

Wow! I've never seen so much ignorance in my life. Yes GM got the Cobalt SS Turbo right finally....But for fuck sake don't compare the base Cobalt to the Base Cruze. The Cobalt base i'm currently driving as a rental is fucking dogshit. It's fugly as hell, the interior is crap, the seats are square and uncomfortable, the styling is a failed attempt at a Neon, the suspension creaks and groans over eveything, the suspension throws you into the passenger seat when it body rolls like a motherfucker, it sucks gas worse than my 260 hp Cobalt Turbo, it has decent power but in a package this cheap with a steering wheel that feels like Frozen puppy shit it's no wonder they're hanging this model to make way for the Cruze. Thank god half of you don't run GM. I think GM listened too much to people like you before. The Cruze is exactly the car the world needs from GM right now. Look how many Civics and Corollas sell per year. The base models not the sporty ones.....Now envision how a car with an interior that's well above the Civic and Corolla, with styling that looks quite a bit like the G8 from a side profile and a gorgeous front (mediocre rear but oh well) and a very small displacement Turbo engine (sound like the LNF much?) with direct injection, a sporty suspension and contrary to what half of you seem not to know a comporable sticker price to Toyota and Hondas vehicles of the same class what's not to love? This is the car that if successful will make future compact sport models a possibility again for Chevy. So start liking it because the fact that a 1.4L engine is making 170 HP...BTW if they do the gearing right, with the addition of the Turbo it wont be slower and might in fact be quicker than the current base Cobalt...That fact means that it will blow the doors off the competition. Ford is making a mistake with the RS because with the new Cafe standards most people will jump ship from the Mustang because if my SS T/C can keep up with a GT at only 260HP just imagine what the RS can do.....To me it's still a Ford, it got piss poor reviews for the most part in Europe and it will be way too overpriced like the Taurus. Sorry Ford circles the problem perfectly and it's a big serving of fail. Good on GM for brining out the Cruze and I wish them success. I'll be buying it next and keeping my SS as my toy.

The fact that you think the front of the chevy cruze is gorgeous ruins all credibility you may have had....lambo's are gorgeous, benley's are gorgeous....chevy cruze is just some run of the mill boring family sedan...you dont see evo owners saying "oh god check out that gorgeous galant" or speed3 owners excited about the new mazda5

Not that it matters, but IMO the front is the ugliest part of the car. I've hated that front ever since they put it on an Avalanche

Not that it matters, but IMO the front is the ugliest part of the car. I've hated that front ever since they put it on an Avalanche

^genious


btw tight stripes. i like the red and white contrast

Thanks!