I'd like to build up my Pontiac G5 from the ground up, im not talking about a race car just a well blanced ride from suspension, handling,tranny and performance but done the right way. I'm not an expert by far when it comes to the mechanics but i have help from my dad 20 years experence and friends who are in school for automotive carears and id like to use this as a learning experince too, So I'd like to know from you fellows what are the weakness's of the Automatic 2007 Pontiac G5/Cobalt 2.2(samething). I would like real info not replys like "buy a new car" or "get a ss" lol, id like to work with what i got over an extended period of time.
What i have right now as mods is limited> B&M Shift Plus, K&N Typhoon Shortram Intake, Eibach Sportlines.

Thanks in advance,
Thomas
as i get replys i will make a list here:

Engine
-Forged Rods
-Forged Pistons
-full exhaust
-Eaton M62

Tranny(Auto)
-Safe 350-400?

-Axels safe 400hp?

Suspension
-Struts

Braking
-SSBC Force 10 2-Piston Performance Brake Kit-Front
http://www.autoanything.com/Cart/Cart.aspx
ETC...

The weakness of the car is the rods and pistons. Replace those and your car should last through a lot of HP.

Struts are also a week point.

You also need a good tune for your car. That makes all the difference.

Rods have always been the problem but while your at it , it makes sense to do the pistons also and then have the crank balanced, the upper end usually isnt a problem unless you rev too high or you get to a point where your outflowing the head which is usually in the 300whp-350whp range

dinner bump

um. lack of power? lol jk 2.2's are monsters. um rods check pistons check thats all ive really heard having trouble

just build for power until something internal breaks... then upgrade

i would seriously suggest either turbo or s/c it... best bang for ur buck on the stock internals

and way faster of any N/A build

thanks for the input guys so rods and pistons are a def. how about handling and brakes?

Personally I wouldn't even consider investing any $$ into the 2.2 in terms of performance. If you go na: port and polish, intake, header, catback it'll still be slow and you've invest a lot of money and time If you want to make decent power FI is the only way to do it. Granted, it's a new car and there goes your warranty. If i was to mod my new '09, I'd go with some quality coilovers, strut and sway bars, possibly a rear disc conversion.

Personally I wouldn't even consider investing any $$ into the 2.2 in terms of performance. If you go na: port and polish, intake, header, catback it'll still be slow and you've invest a lot of money and time If you want to make decent power FI is the only way to do it. Granted, it's a new car and there goes your warranty. If i was to mod my new '09, I'd go with some quality coilovers, strut and sway bars, possibly a rear disc conversion.

...whats wrong with investing $$ into performance for a 2.2 if you go boosted?

Personally I wouldn't even consider investing any $$ into the 2.2 in terms of performance. If you go na: port and polish, intake, header, catback it'll still be slow and you've invest a lot of money and time If you want to make decent power FI is the only way to do it. Granted, it's a new car and there goes your warranty. If i was to mod my new '09, I'd go with some quality coilovers, strut and sway bars, possibly a rear disc conversion.

Thanks for your input buddy he asked for help not to be told that it's not worth spending money on it... the truth about the matter is the same could be said about all of us tuning our 4 bangers he has his car and we wants to improve it. Come on man but ya as for advice... coming from someone with a supercharged car, i don't know how crazy you want to go but i would seriously consider going turbo... You have have the potential for alot more power and i know that the supercharger just isn't cutting it for me... but again it's your car and you have to pretty much do that for your self
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BUILD!

rods and pistons first on a turbo build for 300whp??

what about the tranny and axels etc.

lets say i want 300hp on my 2.2


whats a list??


any suggestions fellas..??

for 300whp, pistons and rods should be swapped to forged. full exhaust should also be added. 5sp you'll probably want a better clutch and some mounts to avoid snapping axles. aiththe auto, you're fine for probably around 350-400bhp.

those are your required mods..then theres suggested mods, but thats just for optimal perofrmance...it wont harm your car to run without them

thats all true but i would do axles too, personally i went the tow truck route and i prefer not lol and i could see the 2.2 axles holding up better then the tooth picks they put on my ride lol thanks GM are you auto or manual... and question for HunterKiller89 how does your transmition hold up are you running the stalker?

yes sir. stock everything. the stock auto trans is rated for 315tq. it was made for V6 engines

you really wont need axles unless you're wheelhopping. theres several 400whp cobalts on stock axles. they dont have wheelhop :)

lol i know i have experienced wheel hop but when mine went it was a clean shift from first to second. oh well i guess if i would have learned how to not bounce the shit out of it to begin with i wouldnt have my RL parked waiting for axles lol so whats your time in the 1/4

lol i know i have experienced wheel hop but when mine went it was a clean shift from first to second. oh well i guess if i would have learned how to not bounce the shit out of it to begin with i wouldnt have my RL parked waiting for axles lol so whats your time in the 1/4

i haven't ran it at a track yet :(

Come on your from LA you could go any day lol Jk... Do you have any plans of going to the track or just built a fun street car... I have mine parked in my igloo waiting for axles i wish i could go racing

i wish i could go to the track in the balt as well but its parked in my parking spot till more funds come in

Come on your from LA you could go any day lol Jk... Do you have any plans of going to the track or just built a fun street car... I have mine parked in my igloo waiting for axles i wish i could go racing

i really dont have much of an urge...mostly just curiosity of how the car will do. A lot of members on here want me to run though, so im sure i will come spring.

...whats wrong with investing $$ into performance for a 2.2 if you go boosted?

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just something I wouldn't do, just my opinion. You're investing thousands of dollars into an 'enterprise rent-a-car', just doesn't seem feasble to me. As mentioned earlier, you've now lost all warranty.

Personally I wouldn't even consider investing any $$ into the 2.2 in terms of performance.

please read my 1st post.

thats all true but i would do axles too, personally i went the tow truck route and i prefer not lol and i could see the 2.2 axles holding up better then the tooth picks they put on my ride lol thanks GM are you auto or manual... and question for HunterKiller89 how does your transmition hold up are you running the stalker?

yea i would prefer to build it slowy and right the idea of crusing till something breaks is not very appealing, FI is on my list i would love to turbo, Yes im an AUTO

Boosting the car is cheaper but build the motor and put a SC/Turbo on it and it will destroy

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just something I wouldn't do, just my opinion. You're investing thousands of dollars into an 'enterprise rent-a-car', just doesn't seem feasble to me. As mentioned earlier, you've now lost all warranty.

rental car? so if you have leather, all disc brakes, a supercharger and xm your now a corvette? please if you have no usefull info, dont post here. and dont insult my car $16,000 may not be alot of cash to you but im a college student and this car means alot to me and i dont care whats feasble to you, have nice day:twothumbs

Boosting the car is cheaper but build the motor and put a SC/Turbo on it and it will destroy

yes i agree, in the future turbo for sure, im just getting the ideas in motion then research and then the little issue of making the money to make this happen lol

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just something I wouldn't do, just my opinion. You're investing thousands of dollars into an 'enterprise rent-a-car', just doesn't seem feasble to me. As mentioned earlier, you've now lost all warranty.

Alright so i'm a little pissed now alright, maybe im taking you out of context but come on he didnt ask for your opinion he asked what some suggested upgrades were for his car. You are running around the cobalt forum with probably a stock 2.2 with no intention of doing anything but telling this guy not to bother with it. First off there are probably more appealing project cars to everyone, i see you have an srt4, personally not a huge fan of neons but i'm not usually the kind of guy to go out of my way to talk shit... especially on the internet but it even says in his first post that he doesnt want to hear it's not worth doing so rather then just leaving you go and tell him it's not worth doing and as for your rental car bullshit i'm glad you watch car and driver lol is that where you stole that from? anyways i'm going to get on with my day because frankly this is a waste of time and not really on topic have a good one

The base cobalts were not intended to be bought for speed, they are an eco cars and affordable, there's nothing wrong with that at all. There are some quick 2.2's out there and props to them for doing a build, my comments have been taken the wrong way.

In my initial post I mentioned that doing N/A mods is purely a waste of money, if you buy an header, catback, intake, 2.4 manifold etc. You're still going to be slower than the Camry next you with 2 kids in the back seat.

I said that the only real way to make it worth while is going F/I, with that being said hopefully some of the 2.2 guys that have gone S/C or T/C can chime in with what worked for them.

The base cobalts were not intended to be bought for speed, they are an eco cars and affordable, there's nothing wrong with that at all. There are some quick 2.2's out there and props to them for doing a build, my comments have been taken the wrong way.

In my initial post I mentioned that doing N/A mods is purely a waste of money, if you buy an header, catback, intake, 2.4 manifold etc. You're still going to be slower than the Camry next you with 2 kids in the back seat.

I said that the only real way to make it worth while is going F/I, with that being said hopefully some of the 2.2 guys that have gone S/C or T/C can chime in with what worked for them.

A V6 camry maybe :)

Take it for what it is. It's a fun drive with a 5-speed and bolt on and a tune. When your Honda fan-boy boss gets spanked you still feel full filled.

I still haven't decided what to do with the car. It has good power and I can pay it off this year. But it's only worth like 3 or 4 thousand so is it really worth it to get rid of it?

alright well then i apologize and i do agree but i will say if he is doing a slow build i would build up my engine, drivetrain, ect. before throwing boost at it because then your right he is going to have a broken car with no warranty. But i think i speak for most people out there if you are trying to build a fast N/A car you aren't going to build a 4 cylinder, just not enough CI there to work with, plus if you dont go boosted your just not going to have enough fun lol

alright well then i apologize and i do agree but i will say if he is doing a slow build i would build up my engine, drivetrain, ect. before throwing boost at it because then your right he is going to have a broken car with no warranty. But i think i speak for most people out there if you are trying to build a fast N/A car you aren't going to build a 4 cylinder, just not enough CI there to work with, plus if you dont go boosted your just not going to have enough fun lol

well said...:twothumbs

start small. Im running 265bhp on stock motor, stock head, and stock tranny. im doing internals before i go any higher tho

I'm working on building the car right now part by part onnce i have eough saved up for that part

start small. Im running 265bhp on stock motor, stock head, and stock tranny. im doing internals before i go any higher tho

is the tranny an Auto? how do you like the supercharger would you go turbo?

question! i have a 2009 cobalt ls and i want to turbo it. How much would the turbo kit ( with everything in it) and the install be? the total price?

is the tranny an Auto? how do you like the supercharger would you go turbo?

lol...dude, read my signatur. that answers ur first question. I love the SC, but i wouldnt mind a turbo either. I just went with the easiest and cheapest way to make a big power increase.

lol...dude, read my signatur. that answers ur first question. I love the SC, but i wouldnt mind a turbo either. I just went with the easiest and cheapest way to make a big power increase.

lol my bad, well im very interested in a supercharger just due to the price, what did your setup cost you? and 265hp thats not bad at all, like i said im not looking to build a race car just a well balanced ride

my setup was around $1500 all said and done, but ive seen the same parts sell for less than when i bought them. course i've put like $6k into this car from the beginning :)

my setup was around $1500 all said and done, but ive seen the same parts sell for less than when i bought them. course i've put like $6k into this car from the beginning :)

yea thats sounds better than the turbo kit from Hahn/Garret, Who did your tune?, im guessing Vince since he provide you wiring diagrams and was it a smooth install and about how long did this take?

umm..well it took me a couple weeks because i was figuring out parts and there werent any direrctions. interviewatruins did it in about 2-3 days using my how to and calling the others who have done this. it all depends

my setup was around $1500 all said and done, but ive seen the same parts sell for less than when i bought them.

That's awesome!

Do you have any times?

has any one posted a parts list for the supercharger setup other then hunter or the other guys thread titled "for 2.2's that want to go s/c"?

That's awesome!

Do you have any times?

havent taken it to the track yet, and probably wont until spring

whats a price on forged pistons and rods??

as far as braking goes...

i once saw a z06 brake pad swap kit (you'd need to get bigger rims to fit them tho) that i believe works on 2.2's

It's a 2.2, what more need be said? haha jk man

It's a 2.2, what more need be said? haha jk man

hey get your ass back to g5club.net!!!:nono:
haha jk

as far as braking goes...

i once saw a z06 brake pad swap kit (you'd need to get bigger rims to fit them tho) that i believe works on 2.2's

it wont work with 17's???

as far as braking goes...

i once saw a z06 brake pad swap kit (you'd need to get bigger rims to fit them tho) that i believe works on 2.2's

it only fit the 5 lug cobalts, and yes, you need a minimum of a 18" rim to clear the calipers

it only fit the 5 lug cobalts, and yes, you need a minimum of a 18" rim to clear the calipers

o ok, so what could i do for my 4 lug?

o ok, so what could i do for my 4 lug?

how much do you want to spend? SSBC makes big brake conversion kits that will give you some massive calipers and massive rotors, and theyre sexy as hell, but they cost $1000 for fronts and another $1000 for rears. If thats too much, check out all the rotor and new pad combinations at TTR. they'll be stock size or very close, but better materials and come drilled and slotted. Te best thing you can do to reduce your braking distace is buy some stickier tires. BFG KDW II is a very popular choice.

Aftermarket lightweight rims that are wider than stock (stock are 7", look for some 8") will help as well.

how much do you want to spend? SSBC makes big brake conversion kits that will give you some massive calipers and massive rotors, and theyre sexy as hell, but they cost $1000 for fronts and another $1000 for rears. If thats too much, check out all the rotor and new pad combinations at TTR. they'll be stock size or very close, but better materials and come drilled and slotted. Te best thing you can do to reduce your braking distace is buy some stickier tires. BFG KDW II is a very popular choice.

Aftermarket lightweight rims that are wider than stock (stock are 7", look for some 8") will help as well.

in reality 1000 isnt all that bad if there bigger and brake better, but i would look into that in the future, my plans as of now is researching the parts and how to's on the supercharger setup, i have a list of parts just looking for the numbers. You woudnt happen to know where i could find a diagram of the 2.o and its componets,an expoled veiw like http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214858 they do, but dont they dont have under the hood veiws

i dont know of any, sorry. its really simple though. just check out my how-to. its simple removal of old parts and replace with new parts for the most part

i dont know of any, sorry. its really simple though. just check out my how-to. its simple removal of old parts and replace with new parts for the most part

thats cool and yes i have your how to printed out! it will come in handy, and i got the parts list from that centex forum, so time to save cash!

btw whats option B?

a few things.

dont let anyone tell you your 2.2 cant be pretty fast.. even n/a, it justtakes a tone more $ that way


plan ahead what you really want your car to be. not what you can afford right now.. that way you dont end up buying things you dont need

if you think your going turbo dont get a full exhaust or intake, you will be replacing the manifold/ header and more then likely down pipe anyways so it would be a waist of cash same with the intake, or cams intil you know for sure as a n/a, turbo & supercharged cars would all use diffrent cam grinds to max performance

theres things you can do such as motor/tranny mounts, i know ttr is supposed to have some nice ones, port and polish the heads. build up the valvetrain for higher rpm's... you could have your axles cyro-treated and even your trannys gears, but i would imagine this would be quiet expensive.

rods and pistons as well for weakness,most of the parts on the L61 are from a LSJ motor.

ZeeBee, all tha followin info was taken from GM's New Release Build Book. (http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Racer-Tech/gm-sport-compact-performance-build-book/104742-enginehandbook-complete-web.pdf) (This opens in a 2.5MB PDF Style)


Here are a few qoutes for quick ref:

"When building an ECOTEC engine to the 400 hp power
level, no modifications to the cylinder head, block, main
girdle or crankshaft are required."

"We recommend that the connecting rods be upgraded
because stock 2.2L L61 rods are not designed for power
levels over 250 hp."

"The stock 2.2L L61 ECOTEC pistons have been tested to
power levels approaching 300 hp. However these pistons
should be replaced with a stock forged-type piston for
applications over the 250 hp level."

"The production intake manifold has been tested to the
350 hp level."

"With a stock 2.2L L61, the maximum Nitrous Jet Kit you
can use is 75 hp. With upgraded rods and pistons, the
maximum nitrous jet you can use is 150 hp."

"GM Performance Parts has developed a bolt-on
supercharger kit (part number 1780003) for the 2.2L
ECOTEC engine."

"The ECOTEC engine is the perfect starting point for
performance enthusiasts. Power levels of up to 400
horsepower can be achieved with the installation of
connecting rods and pistons, a new head gasket and head
bolts, adjustable cam gears and a nitrous oxide system or
a turbo kit. No modifications to the cylinder head, block,
main girdle or crankshaft are required. You can purchase
upgraded components such as:
² Air Intake Systems
² Exhaust Systems
² Exhaust Headers
² Adjustable Cam Gears
² Nitrous Oxide Systems
² Supercharger Kits
² Turbocharger Kits
² ECM Reflashes"



I apologize for such a long post, but here are tha facts come'n from GM themselves. This should give u an idea on what u would need to build on when increase'n ur HP ratings. This is what I'm go'n by with my build. I have most of my stuff listed in my VBGarage, I hope this helps with where ur go'n. Good Luck!

ZeeBee, all tha followin info was taken from GM's New Release Build Book. (http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Racer-Tech/gm-sport-compact-performance-build-book/104742-enginehandbook-complete-web.pdf) (This opens in a 2.5MB PDF Style)


Here are a few qoutes for quick ref:

"When building an ECOTEC engine to the 400 hp power
level, no modifications to the cylinder head, block, main
girdle or crankshaft are required."

"We recommend that the connecting rods be upgraded
because stock 2.2L L61 rods are not designed for power
levels over 250 hp."

"The stock 2.2L L61 ECOTEC pistons have been tested to
power levels approaching 300 hp. However these pistons
should be replaced with a stock forged-type piston for
applications over the 250 hp level."

"The production intake manifold has been tested to the
350 hp level."

"With a stock 2.2L L61, the maximum Nitrous Jet Kit you
can use is 75 hp. With upgraded rods and pistons, the
maximum nitrous jet you can use is 150 hp."

"GM Performance Parts has developed a bolt-on
supercharger kit (part number 1780003) for the 2.2L
ECOTEC engine."

"The ECOTEC engine is the perfect starting point for
performance enthusiasts. Power levels of up to 400
horsepower can be achieved with the installation of
connecting rods and pistons, a new head gasket and head
bolts, adjustable cam gears and a nitrous oxide system or
a turbo kit. No modifications to the cylinder head, block,
main girdle or crankshaft are required. You can purchase
upgraded components such as:
² Air Intake Systems
² Exhaust Systems
² Exhaust Headers
² Adjustable Cam Gears
² Nitrous Oxide Systems
² Supercharger Kits
² Turbocharger Kits
² ECM Reflashes"



I apologize for such a long post, but here are tha facts come'n from GM themselves. This should give u an idea on what u would need to build on when increase'n ur HP ratings. This is what I'm go'n by with my build. I have most of my stuff listed in my VBGarage, I hope this helps with where ur go'n. Good Luck!

This intel is for the L61. Have they done testing like that with the LAP? ( until proven otherwise i would use those numbers)

This intel is for the L61. Have they done testing like that with the LAP? ( until proven otherwise i would use those numbers)

same internal parts i believe

From readin that article u posted, it shows the LE5 is rated to handle the same horsepower as the L61 but we have always been told the LE5 can handle more power then the L61. That the LE5 had some forged internals, but according to that they are identical and will fail at the same power output

From readin that article u posted, it shows the LE5 is rated to handle the same horsepower as the L61 but we have always been told the LE5 can handle more power then the L61. That the LE5 had some forged internals, but according to that they are identical and will fail at the same power output

interesting...

the LE5 has similar internals to the 2.0 as far as quality, the LAP shares the rods, crank, and pistons with the L61s (except 07 ions) and that's it. My 07 ion has most of the upgrades made to the LAP, minus the VVT and some minor things, and it is a BEAST. as far as the OP, if they are still tuned in, as far as suspension on these cars, I find a progress rear sway bar necessary, with that the car turns into a comfy performer around corners.

the LE5 has similar internals to the 2.0 as far as quality, the LAP shares the rods, crank, and pistons with the L61s (except 07 ions) and that's it. My 07 ion has most of the upgrades made to the LAP, minus the VVT and some minor things, and it is a BEAST. as far as the OP, if they are still tuned in, as far as suspension on these cars, I find a progress rear sway bar necessary, with that the car turns into a comfy performer around corners.

thanks for the info, and they sway bar is on my list i have sportline that made a huge cornering difference and a mrz strutbar.

interesting............im getting ready to do an engine build for my car, I was thinking I need everything from a head build to the pistons, but I can see from this that our internals are pretty strong in the 2.2 and rods and pistons are all i need to achieve 300whp


Would an upgraded crankshaft be nessesary or should I leave that alone?

I don't want to forge build the car strictly for power but to make sure the engine lasts me a long time

crankshaft is rated for 500bhp, but i'd be willing to bet it can take 500+whp

most definitely the crank and camshafts will last you, unless you want a different profile, keep them.

Hey, Post #60 - El Mariachi and #61 - Hunterkiller89:

In your sigs, El has 256whp TC and Hunter has 265bhp SC. Pretty close together; how much did each build cost each of you? Not sure on TC or SC as of yet.

Hey, Post #60 - El Mariachi and #61 - Hunterkiller89:

In your sigs, El has 256whp TC and Hunter has 265bhp SC. Pretty close together; how much did each build cost each of you? Not sure on TC or SC as of yet.

im pretty positive i spent less than he did, but 265bhp is only in the 220whp, so he''s definitely ahead of me in power

how much woul dforged pistons and rods run??

what kind of gain would i be looking at on my 2.2 manual??

i have like 1200 i want to invest in the car and i dont mind spending more...

i got my car for free and is payed off...

i woul dlove to sc my car...but im like all hesistant and shit due to the masssssssive parts list i need...lik ehunterkiller...didnt u have a shit load of parts to find before you could start your build...like little hoses and nuts and bolts is what im referring to...not the standard blower and h/e lol

I stand by my previous statement...


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hey, Post #60 - El Mariachi and #61 - Hunterkiller89:

In your sigs, El has 256whp TC and Hunter has 265bhp SC. Pretty close together; how much did each build cost each of you? Not sure on TC or SC as of yet.

Hunter deffinitly spent less, heres my spendings so far in project LS:

Garrett Turbo Kit - $3,000
Spec Clutch - $400
Trifecta Tune - $300
Installation - $1,300
and DC Sport Exhaust - $500

Trifect over tuned me so I try not to boost around so much until i get the build going, which is soon. Then Ima tune it again, my goal is 300whp for right now

if it makes you feel better, im probably near $7k into the car as a whole....lol
oo, and i have power windows as of 2 days ago :) its soooo much better

if it makes you feel better, im probably near $7k into the car as a whole....lol
oo, and i have power windows as of 2 days ago :) its soooo much better

lets see where im at lol:

Garrett Turbo Kit - $3,000
Spec Clutch - $400
Trifecta Tune - $300
Installation - $1,300
DC Sport Exhaust - $500
Eibach springs - $500 i think
3M tint - $210
Sound system (stolen :() with installation - $2000
Leather seats from Julio lol : $350 come this wednsday
SS wing - $300
17in rims - $750

almost a grand total of ----------> "ching" $9610

We would be at the same amount if it wasn't for the price i paid for the turbo kit lol

lets see where im at lol:

Garrett Turbo Kit - $3,000
Spec Clutch - $400
Trifecta Tune - $300
Installation - $1,300
DC Sport Exhaust - $500
Eibach springs - $500 i think
3M tint - $210
Sound system (stolen :() with installation - $2000
Leather seats from Julio lol : $350 come this wednsday
SS wing - $300
17in rims - $750

almost a grand total of ----------> "ching" $9610

We would be at the same amount if it wasn't for the price i paid for the turbo kit lol
dayum!. lol so im not the only one dumping ridiculous amounts of money into an LS.
$1500 rims and tires
$400 sway bars
$250 springs
$650 struts
$50 spacers
$250 seats
$150 for door panels
$100 for all other interior panels
$200 for speakers and head unit
$1200 for supercharger
$600-700 in gauges (wow..thats frightening)
$300 for piggyback
$300 for tune
$100 for tint
$500 for header/DP
$450 for catback
$200 for headlights
$250 for HIDs
$100 for strut bar
$60 for tranny mounts
$30 for shift+
$50 for tranny cooler
$300 for power windows/locks
TOTAL: $8,040
ouch....i wish i spent that money on internals....lol
throw in some more for installation costs, but i did most of those installs myself. only the springs/struts, piggyback, and tranny cooler were done by a shop

dayum!. lol so im not the only one dumping ridiculous amounts of money into an LS.
$1500 rims and tires
$400 sway bars
$250 springs
$650 struts
$50 spacers
$250 seats
$150 for door panels
$100 for all other interior panels
$200 for speakers and head unit
$1200 for supercharger
$600-700 in gauges (wow..thats frightening)
$300 for piggyback
$300 for tune
$100 for tint
$500 for header/DP
$450 for catback
$200 for headlights
$250 for HIDs
$100 for strut bar
$60 for tranny mounts
$30 for shift+
$50 for tranny cooler
$300 for power windows/locks
TOTAL: $8,040
ouch....i wish i spent that money on internals....lol
throw in some more for installation costs, but i did most of those installs myself. only the springs/struts, piggyback, and tranny cooler were done by a shop

yep and im still spending lol, but that what makes the LS fun

So, a little off topic, but what is the updated list of things that the 2.2 is weak on???

the biggest weakness is the rod and pistons, then the valves, other than that Ive been doing a lot of research and have come to find that the 2.2 internals are pretty strong in general

So, a little off topic, but what is the updated list of things that the 2.2 is weak on???

good for 250whp, if you want more, you need rods and pistons. if you want more than 450whp, then you need to start getting headwork. There really are no weaknesses compared to a LSJ other than the pistons/rods

I have a 2.4. I was just trying to get the thread back on track instead of a receipt list for FI builds...

the original question was answered, so theres really no need to go back on track until someone asks a new question

I have a 2.4. I was just trying to get the thread back on track instead of a receipt list for FI builds...

dude they can do whatever they want to this thread lol, i canceled the project for now. I have come to the conclusion that i dont need a fast/quicker car. One day i will buy a project car, the g5 is my dd and im happy with it as is, and can do alot more with the cash then blow it all on the car lol. the only thing i will be working on is handling and braking :twothumbs

the original question was answered, so theres really no need to go back on track until someone asks a new question

There is also no need to spam a thread with information that pertains to nothing about what the OP was. Yes, the question may have been answered. But spamming the thread reminds me of, oh yeah, CC08. Did you make another account CC08?